South Africa - Anni Dewani, 28, shot to death, Gugulethu, 13 Nov 2010 #3

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VZ rephrases. There was telephonic communication between the two of you and he asked for money. Is that right?

ZT: Correct.

He says what he is trying to reveal is that "if he demanded R10 000 or R15 000, I had nothing to do with that. He just had to go to the young men.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-15-20141105

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 3m3 minutes ago

Van Zyl rephrases. "There was telephonic communication btw the two of you & he asked for money. Is that right?"

Tongo: Correct.

Tongo says what he is trying to reveal is that "if he demanded R10k or R15k, I had nothing to do with that. He just had to go to the young men"

VZ: The court has heard evidence of how the deceased was shot. She was shot once, in the upper chest, bullet went through her left hand. It is the defence's case that that is not an execution shot. We also heard from Mr. Qwabe that after the deceased was shot, he drove into a residential area. Were you aware of these facts?"

Tongo: Sir, I was not present at the time. As to what was going to happen, where how, whether she was to be shot, stabbed or strangled. I don't know. I was not there.

VZ: Were you concerned about your car. Did you tell them not to do it in you car?

Traverso: If I understood your evidence correctly, the accused initiated the evidence, the discussion of what would happen that night. You knew they already had one firearm & part of the instruction from the accused what tat you must kill my business partner. You surely must have known that it's likely she'll be shot.

Tongo: I knew she was going to be killed. To be shot, I was not sure

Traverso: But surely there was a discussion.

Tongo: We decided that the person was going to be killed.

Traverso: how?

 

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I remember Tongo stating he got a replacement SIM card and put in his blackberry (extra phone) and that would provide contact information ..... MOO.....

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 34s34 seconds ago

Tongo: We never came to a decision whether the person was to be killed with a firearm or stabbed. The fact that I heard that the person was going to look for his "kierie" (slang for gun), maybe that person does not use it

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 58s59 seconds ago

Tongo: when he is killing her. What I am trying to reveal, is yes there was a firearm and they were going to look for another one. Maybe they decide, okay we won't use it no more.

Traverso: What was the deal?

Tongo: The deal was that his business partner had to be killed.

VZ: The accused will tell the court that he never conspired with you or anyone else to kill his wife. I presume you will say he did.

Tongo: Those are lies, My Lady.

VZ: He will also say he does not know what went down here maybe you and your friends saw them as easy targets.

Tongo: Those are lies, My Lady.

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 1m1 minute ago

VZ: Maybe there was a more sinister motive.

Tongo: Those are lies.

Traverso: Sorry to interrupt. You said in your evidence-in-chief & statement that when you got this job you thought the hunger was over. What did you mean?

Tongo: I thought I'd be working over that weekend & they were going to use me and my selling myself paid off

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 1m1 minute ago

VZ: The accused will say he doesn't know why you will tell the court that he was somehow involved in his wife's murder, because he was not.

Tongo: It's not that he is involved. He is the actual one who gave the instruction.

 

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VZ: The accused will tell the court that he never conspired with you or anyone else to kill his wife. I presume you will say he did.

ZT: Those are lies, My Lady. VZ: He will also say he does not know what went down here maybe you and your friends saw them as easy targets. ZT: Those are lies, My Lady

VZ: Maybe there was a more sinister motive. ZT: Those are lies.

The defence lawyer, who is generally quite a gentleman in court, is now really pushing the State's most important witness. And ZT's already quite angry...

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-15-20141105

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 1m1 minute ago

Tongo: as to what must happen. That is why Monde said we were five

VZ: You will recall I asked whether you were held in section 5 (at prison) and if you know Bernard Mitchell


EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 1m1 minute ago

VZ goes back to a question he dropped earlier on, it relates to where Tongo was held in Malmesbury.

 

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EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 1m1 minute ago

VZ: in early October 2011,when accused was in UK, he had appointed Taswell Papier as attorney,he was contacted by a warder, in early 2011, when the accused was still in the UK, fighting his extradition on among others, mental grounds.
The accused hired an attorney in CPT, Taswell Papier, for the company instructing now.

 

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Traverso: Sorry to interrupt. You said in your evidence-in-chief and statement that when you got this job you thought the hunger was over. What did you mean? ZT: I thought I'd be working over that weekend and they were going to use me and my selling myself paid off.

VZ: The accused will say he doesn't know why you will tell the court that he was somehow involved in his wife's murder, because he was not.

ZT: It's not that he is involved. He is the actual one who gave the instruction as to what must happen. That is why Monde said we were five.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-15-20141105

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 58s59 seconds ago

VZ: He got a call from a warder, on behalf of Mr. Mitchell. And we will call Mr. Mitchell as a witness, He said he had info. Listen Carefully. He said you were showering. You told him you noticed he got life. You said you were happy you didn't get life. If you didn't enter a plea deal, you'd get life.

 

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EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 2m2 minutes ago

VZ: you then discussed jail gang activity, but at the stage he asked you to tell him whether it was true,you didn't want to talk, he asked you why kill the pretty girl, why not just rape her, you said the plan was jeopardized

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 1m1 minute ago

VZ: He asked you about the Dewani case. You didn't want to talk. He convinced you that you could trust him.

EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 2m2 minutes ago

VZ: you said the plan was to kidnap her, but plan went of the rails, you said one of them wanted to rape her & she was shot.

 

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Ayesha ‏@CloraVannieKaap 34s34 seconds ago

Van Zyl says Mitchell will say that the intention was to extort money from Dewani and to frame him for his wife's murder.

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 29s29 seconds ago

VZ: the whole plan. The plan was to kidnap her and hold her hostage. One of them wanted to rape her. A quarrel ensued and a shot went off. You further told him that you thought of blackmailing Mr Dewani to kill his wife.

 

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It looks like the defence had an ace up their sleeve.

 

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Defense have finally revealed their strategy, I think. Dewani was framed because of a kidnap, ransom attempt that went wrong.The judge might buy it, I think?

 

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A warder rings to report information from another prisoner? Wonder how much money was involved there.

 

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Leila Samodien ‏@Leila_Luck 1m1 minute ago

The defence has dropped a bombshell about a witness it will call - a prisoner Tongo allegedly confided in about the case.