South Africa - Anni Dewani, 28, shot to death, Gugulethu, 13 Nov 2010 #4

[zwiebel]

Oh, there you are Prime! I was beginning to panic then!

 

[zwiebel]

vanessa poonah @vanessapoonah01 · 1 min 1 minute ago

#DewaniTrial MM: Abongile and Zola did not know each other. I was supposed to introduce them. Van Zyl: what would be discussed?#SABCNews

 

[newone]

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-18-20141110-3
1029
FvZ asking MM to repeat the details of how the person was to be killed.

FvZ: Tongo said he didn't know at that stage how the killing would take place, he only knew when he took accused to change money.

MM says he won't speak on Tongo's behalf.
1030
FvZ asks MM what he knew about the job & what had to be done.

MM: Knew Zola coming for meeting, gloves needed
1032
FvZ prodding MM on exactly what he knew about hijacking, and how he knew what vehicle would be used.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 10m10 minutes ago

VZ: was it during the 10:31 phone call that he said he wanted gloves? Then you told Tongo "they" want gloves. Why?

MM: Let's just say it was the manner in which I spoke.

VZ: at 10ish what did you know about how the killing would happen?

MM: knew Zola would have to come to Khayelitsha, and they needed gloves so no fingerprints in car.

VZ: we're talking about 10:30am, did you know then there would be a car involved?

MM: I didn't know.

VZ: but you just said they were worried about the fingerprints in the car.

VZ: Who told you about the motor vehicle's involvement at that time, 10:30am?

MM: no one, except I heard that from Abongile (Qwabe) when he said they want gloves so fingerprints would not be found on motor vehicle.

 

[zwiebel]

vanessa poonah @vanessapoonah01 · 2 mins 2 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial MM: how the woman would be killed. Van Zyl: Why did you become involved? MM: Money caused me to become involved.#SABCNews

And then MM goes on to agree with VZ he was going to demand the money from Qwabe.

 

[zwiebel]

vanessa poonah @vanessapoonah01 · 2 mins 2 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial Van Zyl: really, so you were in it for the money? Who was going to pay you? MM: nothing was written down, but I knew.#SABCNews

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Oh, there you are Prime! I was beginning to panic then!

:wave: G'day Z & fellow websleuthers!

 

[zwiebel]

Ah, newone and PrimeSuspect work so well together, now they're both here I'm going to drop back to just the odd tweet or comment.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 11m11 minutes ago

VZ: that means Qwabe knew there was going to be a car involved, Did you ask him what car this was? see Tongo said, he didn't know at that stage how the killing would take place, he only knew when he took accused to change money at around 12pm.

MM: won't comment on what Tongo said.

 

[newone]

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-18-20141110-3
1036
MM admits he was in it for the money, but no agreement on who would pay him the money was made beforehand.
1036
MM says his role was to introduce Tongo to Qwabe as they didn't know each other.
1037
FvZ: Did you ask for your money from Qwabe after the event?
MM: Phoned Tongo to say let's meet, didn't ask for money.
1038
FvZ: Tongo testified he explained you must talk to others about money, not him.
MM: He never said that to me.

 

[zwiebel]

Seems to be rehashing all the stuff about the payment and Qwabe - again.

 

[newone]

Ah, newone and PrimeSuspect work so well together, now they're both here I'm going to drop back to just the odd tweet or comment.

the more the merrier Z -- your contributions help immensely

 

[zwiebel]

vanessa poonah ‏@vanessapoonah01 56 secs57 seconds ago

#DewaniTrial van zyl: what do you say that according to him the money was between you and the young men? MM: there's no such...#SABCNews

(I don't think that's half his sentence. From other tweets, looks like he did just reply 'No such'. ?)

 

[newone]

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-18-20141110-3
1043Can vaguely hear singing outside court, there were people protesting about sex workers' rights earlier, tweets Roy McKenzie from the courtroom.
1045

Judge Traverso seeks clarity on when MM last saw Tongo.

 

[zwiebel]

Roy McKenzie ‏@RoyMcK 2 mins2 minutes ago Cape Town

Can vaguely hear singing outside court, there were people protesting about sex workers' rights earlier #DewaniTrial

 

[PrimeSuspect]

EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 7m7 minutes ago

VZ: but that money would be paid to Qwabe? You were going to demand money from Qwabe?

MM: yes

VZ:you were in it for the money & that was R5000, who was going to pay?

MM: Nothing was written down,would ask either Zola or Qwabe

VZ: did you know at that stage whether Zola Tongo would be paid anything?

MM: knew R15000 would be paid to Abongile (Qwabe)

VZ:did you know if Zola would be paid anything?

MM: no.

VZ:yet you were going to ask him for the money as well. Tongo testified that when you raised the R5k (initially) he said you must talk to the young men, not to him.

MM: never said that to me.

VZ now reading from the record, what Tongo said about the R5k.


vanessa poonah ‏@vanessapoonah01 #SABCNews 2m2 minutes ago


van zyl: what do you say that according to him the money was between you and the young men?

MM: there's no such...thing

Judge wants clarity on when was the last time MM saw Tongo. MM says he was with Zola Tongo on the Saturday.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

the more the merrier Z -- your contributions help immensely

I agree, we get the feel of the courtroom, missed stuff etc.

 

[zwiebel]

MM appears to get more confused over days and dates than I do, which is saying something....

 

[patCee]

Ah, newone and PrimeSuspect work so well together, now they're both here I'm going to drop back to just the odd tweet or comment.

Thanks for covering the tweets so far Zwiebel. I can't help at all today as working.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Seems to be rehashing all the stuff about the payment and Qwabe - again.

Yes, it's like a table tennis match, back and forth, same question, same answer. VZ trying to confuse Mondo, he had success with Tongo though.