South Africa - Anni Dewani, 28, shot to death, Gugulethu, 13 Nov 2010 #4

[newone]

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MM: The one who is sitting there, I don't want to mention him by name (referring to Dewani).

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FvZ: What was explained to you about killing?
MM: Owner of car wanted it to look like fake hijacking, female would be killed.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-18-20141110-3



no way of knowing what the question was ....... this tweeting of a trial is so lame -- designed to confuse

 

[zwiebel]

??!!

Lindiwe Mlandu ‏@LindiweMl 3 mins3 minutes ago

The middleman making me laugh. He is calling Shrien "lo" saying he doesn't want to use his name. #DewaniTrial

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 2m2 minutes ago

That the plan was to kill the woman. "I don't want to mention him by name, but he wanted it to happen." -- referring to SD

(Mondo doesn't want to say Dewani or the gentleman.)

 

[zwiebel]

If I was Dewani's defence counsel, I'd object to a witness 'renaming' my client with something that comes perilously close to sounding derogatory, as in 'low'.

I'm also surprised the judge allows it.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 7m7 minutes ago

Van Zyl tell MM " You can refer to him. He is Mr. Dewani." (Dewani looks up,confused. Doesn't seem he was listening at that stage)

 

[PrimeSuspect]

If I was Dewani's defence counsel, I'd object to a witness 'renaming' my client with something that comes perilously close to sounding derogatory, as in 'low'.

I'm also surprised the judge allows it.

Traverso is quite different than Masipa, the witnesses can be called liars. If SD does take the stand, I wonder if the state calls him a liar will she step in then?

Seems like SD isn't quite interested in proceedings, pretty much like everyone else, lol, it's like a drawn out procedure to go through with an end with no surprises, well not so far.

 

[newone]

Court resumes after adjournment, but wait, where's the witness? He was still being fetched.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-18-20141110-3

 

[jslk]

Tongo's and Monde's testimony so far has made things clear as mud for me! Thanks for the tweets today everyone [emoji106]

 

[newone]

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MM questioned on who would take the car to the carwash after the incident. He's not sure who, maybe Abongile (Qwabe)

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[PrimeSuspect]

Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 4m4 minutes ago

Network issues again. VZ continuing his cross exam. Questioning MM about who would wash the car, after the incident

MM: I don't know. I'm not sure who would take the car to be washed.

VZ: Why in your statement just the other day, did you not tell them "I'm not sure who will take the car to the car wash"

MM: Because it was said to me that after the lady is killed, the car must be taken to be washed.

VZ: Mr. Tongo was the other party, privy to this conversation, not so?

VZ refers to the court records, when Tongo was under cross exam


News24 ‏@News24 1m1 minute ago

VZ reads out Tongo's evidence that he asked them to leave the car near a carwash after the job, so it could be cleaned.

 

[newone]

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FvZ: Why, in your police statement the other day, did you say you weren't sure who will take the car to the carwash?
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FvZ reads out Tongo's evidence that he asked them to leave the car near a carwash after the job, so it could be cleaned.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 1m1 minute ago

VZ: What do you say about his explanation?

MM: What i know of is what I mentioned here. After the lady has been killed, the car must be taken to the car wash. Who, where and when, I don't know. But it's not true what Zola is saying that the car was to be taken to a car wash near where I am staying.

 

[newone]

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MM: What I was aware of was that after lady was killed, car must be taken to a carwash, not sure which one, or who taking it

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 1m1 minute ago

VZ: Which of these versions do you want the court to believe? That Zola was going to take the car or Qwabe was?

MM: What I know is that after the woman was killed, the car would be washed. `who would wash it or where, I don't know.

 

[newone]

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Judge refers to call record
MM: I was instructing them not to get lost, they were coming to Khayelitsha from Gugulethu.


http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-18-20141110-3

 

[Britlaws]

Tongo's car is to be used in a murder, where Tongo will claim to be a victim... it will inevitably be seized by police and Tongo is going to take it to a car wash?!

 

[PrimeSuspect]

News24 ‏@News24 2m2 minutes ago

Judge refers to call record

MM: I was instructing them not to get lost, they were coming to Khayelitsha from Gugulethu.


Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 2m2 minutes ago

VZ: Mr. Qwabe testified that he does not recall anything about washing the car. What do you say about that?

MM:I would say that he forgot because this thing happened a long time ago. i am not talking on his behalf. I am talking on my behalf

VZ: As I understood from your evidence, you made the earlier calls because you were curious. Why did you make these calls(after) also because you were curious?

MM: Yes.

VZ: did you give any instructions to Qwabe, Mngeni or Tongo what they should do that night?

MM: Except that I told Zola I instructed the other two not to get lost when they came to Gugulethu.

 

[newone]

fourteen more trial days......hope there is something more to reveal than who was supposed to bring the gloves

 

[newone]

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MM: Didn't think to ask where hijacking would take place in Gugs.
Judge: But earlier you said you wanted to know everything.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-18-20141110-3

 

[newone]

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Judge: Did you not want to know how this lady was going to be killed?

MM: It never occurred to ask how she'd be killed.
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MM: Never occurred to ask what would happen to her body after she was killed. Or exact time on Saturday night.
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