Hi Flowerchild, the whole point of a forum is to discuss pros and cons. So to speak poorly of posters in a personal way for having a different value system than you do is uneccessary. I don't think many of us give a hoot(er) what this gal does. But I can only speak to what I feel about it, which is why here is a thread about Ebbert open for discussion.. I am discussing the girl in the article, you are discussing the posters that disagree with you in a negative way.Her parents approved of what she did - maybe lots wouldn't, but HERS did. And they are the ONLY parents who matter.
Why are people so offended at nudity? Paintings and statues all over the world where women are displaying their privates and THEY aren't considered "sleazy" - and don't give the "art" excuse either, when those women were posing a few thousand years ago I doubt the public considered them "art" then. Nudes are nudes no matter what CENTURY they were immortalized in.
Kudos to ALL the women who didn't pose for Playboy - but that was YOUR CHOICE and I for one, am glad you had that choice to make. However I do not think that choice makes you a better person...just different.
And yes, the Burka is valid comparison. Right now smoking, which is legal, is being banned in places considered private property. And people are just sitting back and allowing that "right" to be taken away because smoking is dangerous for some people and purportedly is dangerous for people around the smoker - even IN OPEN AIR PUBLIC PLACES. We'd better be careful because that's a very slippery slope. What is to stop Playboy from being banned because it's "dangerous" for some men to look at? Perhaps it might soon be dangerous for scantily clad women to be in public because some viewers might become aroused and uncontrollable - can't allow THAT. And what's to stop bikinis from being banned in public because THEY are dangerous for some men to look at and offensive to some others - both men and women? Smoking is just the latest "prohibition" and the darling of the politically correct. Next it could be some other legal but controversial vice - like girlie mags and gentlemen's clubs.
Europe quit worrying about nekkid pictures a LONG time ago and wow, the worlds oldest cultures have not collapsed into moral decay and madness. Holland - where live sex shows, marijuana and prostitution are all legal and ADS feature half naked women is still flourishing after centuries.
Many people love the idea of subjecting others to OUR way of thinking, no doubt. Happy I don't feel the need to do so myself. And no, I don't think that posing in Playboy dooms the girl to a life makingfilms - big LEAP there and not supported by the history of the thousands of girls who have appeared in the pages of Playboy thru the years. Based on what I do know, it probably dooms her to a marriage to someone with money and power who wants a trophy wife. I'm thinking there are worse fates.
So, I am not climbing up there onto high moral ground - it's a nasty fall and I certainly have no intention of risking my neck balancing up there just to snark, feel superior and make ugly comments about someone I do not know and have no right to criticize. I don't find that saying things intended to make someone else feel bad for doing something she wants to do and is legally allowed to do, the least bit rewarding personally.
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JBeanya, that's just what I was going to say to FC. :liar: :furious: :angel:Hi Flowerchild, the whole point of a forum is to discuss pros and cons. So to speak poorly of posters in a personal way for having a different value system than you do is uneccessary. I don't think many of us give a hoot(er) what this gal does. But I can only speak to what I feel about it, which is why here is a thread about Ebbert open for discussion.. I am discussing the girl in the article, you are discussing the posters that disagree with you in a negative way.
comments like the ones below make it tough to advance the discussion. Please don't make it so personal. We are just discussing what we might do faced with similar circumstances or our hopes for the youth that we are shaping. No right no wrong, just different attitudes and opinions. I value your opinion.
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You nut Buzz. maybe I just misunderstood. It has been known to happen. :innocent:
If I could afford it, lol; I was wondering if anyone has seen the magazine yet, and wondering whether her breasts are really, as implant-obvious, as they were in the teaser on the Playboy web site.
Oh well, she peaked out already, and it is all downhill from here. Maybe a
; although many would choose more conservative attire in accompaniment to THEM.
I could pose for Playboy but they would have to do some major airbrushing ...Now Paperdoll. if you were in Playboy they would not airbrush a thing.:blowkiss:Wow, I seem to be missing all the ta ta hoopla here.. hehe Maybe I should just but out of this one.. then again, I already butted in so I might as well add my 2 cents worth.. here it goes... I think she's cute and if she chooses to pose for Playboy, so be it.. This has been her big dream all her life.. hehe It's a no brainer.. :crazy: Why waste brain cells sitting behind a desk (like I am at this very moment)... sigh...
Those airbrushes do amazing work. My ex was an artist and I bought her an airbrush, and also a smaller compressor.Wow, I seem to be missing all the ta ta hoopla here.. hehe Maybe I should just but out of this one.. then again, I already butted in so I might as well add my 2 cents worth.. here it goes... I think she's cute and if she chooses to pose for Playboy, so be it.. This has been her big dream all her life.. hehe It's a no brainer.. :crazy: Why waste brain cells sitting behind a desk (like I am at this very moment)... sigh...
I wish I could just get a good daily airbrushing. You know, wash my face, brush my teeth and airbrush everything else.
No you're not.Because if you are then I am.THANKS BEANO, but they would
HI capps. I have a feeling the outfit "evolved" also.
No you're not.Because if you are then I am.
That looks like you in your siggy.LOL, that is true.. hum.. ok, we are YOUNG for our age.. hehe Ah, I feel better now..
