Special needs child "voted" out of classroom

[pixies]

She should be fired. I am guessing she is part of the teachers union and that makes it harder to fire bad teachers like this one.
I really do hope that if she cannot be fired, other parents will be aware of what kind of person she really is and demand their children be pulled from the classroom.
The other students need to have some guidance workers come in and teach them how to be more sympathetic to others with special needs without calling any certain student out on it.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Be thankful that you don't know what an IEP is. That means you have never needed one.
:blowkiss:

I've been extremely blessed.

 

[Dena]

This poor mother!

My 3 year old (4 in July) is special needs with an IEP and is currently in special preschool. (Thank goodness I live in Illinois)

We have been through hell and back getting him help, the time spent with evaluations, speech therapists, OT, Sensory, Behavior... my gosh the stress of all those things, then you add on to it the ignorance of these so called teachers, it really just makes me so angry I can't put it into words. :behindbar:furious::furious::behindbar

I pulled my son from a daycare after 2 months for similar ridicule by the daycare center owner. I had a meeting with them before he started letting them know he needed more attention than the other kids and they assured me it was no problem. He had no words at that time, he was 18 months old. They decided to tell me one morning when I dropped him off that he wasn't in the normal room I bring him to, but with the 6-12 month olds because his speech was more in line with them. That was his last week there, and that woman is lucky I didn't put her in the hospital. I was so angry I just wanted to cry, and I looked at my son and couldn't believe someone, a teacher or a parent, could do this to him. He sat there all day with nothing to do, and I would pick him up and he'd be crying because he missed his friends.

Sorry for the story, but this is why these things get me so mad, I am choking up right now thinking about these poor kids and what they go through when not in a proper setting. How dare these educators treat our children like this!! Grown up bullies, get over yourselves and do your job and be a good person, why is that so hard these days? If you don't like your job then do something else.

 

[Opie]

This makes me furious. I signed the petition and forwarded the links to my daughter who has an Asperger's child. I suggested she pass them along to her Asperger's group if they are not already onto this. I can't type any other nice words to add to this post.

 

[pixies]

This poor mother!

My 3 year old (4 in July) is special needs with an IEP and is currently in special preschool. (Thank goodness I live in Illinois)

We have been through hell and back getting him help, the time spent with evaluations, speech therapists, OT, Sensory, Behavior... my gosh the stress of all those things, then you add on to it the ignorance of these so called teachers, it really just makes me so angry I can't put it into words. :behindbar:furious::furious::behindbar

I pulled my son from a daycare after 2 months for similar ridicule by the daycare center owner. I had a meeting with them before he started letting them know he needed more attention than the other kids and they assured me it was no problem. He had no words at that time, he was 18 months old. They decided to tell me one morning when I dropped him off that he wasn't in the normal room I bring him to, but with the 6-12 month olds because his speech was more in line with them. That was his last week there, and that woman is lucky I didn't put her in the hospital. I was so angry I just wanted to cry, and I looked at my son and couldn't believe someone, a teacher or a parent, could do this to him. He sat there all day with nothing to do, and I would pick him up and he'd be crying because he missed his friends.

Sorry for the story, but this is why these things get me so mad, I am choking up right now thinking about these poor kids and what they go through when not in a proper setting. How dare these educators treat our children like this!! Grown up bullies, get over yourselves and do your job and be a good person, why is that so hard these days? If you don't like your job then do something else.

Oh Dena, I have seen this over and over again. There us to be a Children's World daycare in Nashville, and while in school I worked there and it was terrible. One little boy was mute yet perfectly "Average" in everyway, yet the director kept pulling him out of my room 3-4y/0 and putting him with the younger students. He would cry and cry to stay with his friends yet the Director told me not to tell the parents. This kid was made fun of for being mute and for being in the baby class. Can you imagine the trauma?
I, of course, told the Dad and the boy was pulled from the daycare.

People would never ever leave their kids at daycare if they knew how some of the people really are there. This daycare closed down years ago because of bad management and a child was molested by a male teacher several years later.

I am not bashing all daycare centers but the ones I visit (for volunteer reasons) and the one I have actually worked in while in college hire only those with little education, (which is OK, as long as you love kids) and have no other work options besides fast food. The pay is min. wage with no benefits. The one I worked in, the teachers were married to men in prison and acted just plain ghetto around the kids. It was a bad place for anyone let alone a child.

 

[BarnGoddess]

I was really angry when I saw this. My youngest was in third grade at North Miami Elementary and his teacher belittled him in front of the class, calling him "stupid" and "dumb". When we called and met with the principal, he arranged for him to be tested way, way ahead of schedule. Two year wait. It was found he had an auditory learning disability. Kind of dyslexia but not visual. He could hear 2 + 2, but couldn't always process it as equaling 4. If it was written, then he had no problem. We played hell with spelling as he just couldn't always get it processed correctly. The test showed this disabilty, but also assigned him an IQ of 140. So, he was immediately placed in a program for "Gifted LD" students. It was a blessing in disguise, that mean nasty teacher really did him a great service in the long run. I think it depends upon the school administration as to whether the teacher is disciplined or not, but quick action may make or break a student who may have "special needs".

 

[philamena]

OMG that teacher should be voted off the planet!!!

I wonder who the 2 sweet souls are that voted to keep him in the class?

This is mental abuse of the worst kind. It will take a long time for him to forget this. I'll keep him in my prayers. I still think that b*tch teacher should be fired. Sorry, this hits close to home.

What Taximom said.
:clap::clap:

 

[Details]

Doesn't matter if the child has Aspergers, Autism, or even a non-medical obnoxious personality - even if he's the worst child in the world, there's no excuse for this. Whether due to a disability, personality conflict with the teacher, or anything - that's not right.

Sounds like something is going on with the child that prompted this - obviously he's been acting out - and why is an interesting question - but there's never a time when the best action to help that child and their classmates is to single them out for ridicule. Just as devils advocate, I'm trying to think of it as if the child is a truely obnoxious person - a bully, hurting the other kids, abusing animals - and even in that extreme case this is still not the way to handle it.

 

[Dena]

Just as devils advocate, I'm trying to think of it as if the child is a truely obnoxious person - a bully, hurting the other kids, abusing animals - and even in that extreme case this is still not the way to handle it.

I am glad you said that because I am sure there will be people thinking how bad this child must be and that he perhaps deserved it.

"Behavior problems" span a huge gap and it's probably something as simple as not listening and tantrums, etc. The kid is 5, it shouldn't be anything that this "teacher" had to deal with like that. I wonder if there had been any discussion with the parents prior to this.

 

[czechmate7]

I am glad you said that because I am sure there will be people thinking how bad this child must be and that he perhaps deserved it.

"Behavior problems" span a huge gap and it's probably something as simple as not listening and tantrums, etc. The kid is 5, it shouldn't be anything that this "teacher" had to deal with like that. I wonder if there had been any discussion with the parents prior to this.

I'm not sure if any 5 year old deserves to be voted out of a classroom by his fellow peers....WTF?? Even if he isn't disabled and is just a little head!! I'm sure this wasn't the proper avenue for dismissing a child from the class!!

 

[Details]

I'd think the method to handle this would be obvious to any teacher. First, you talk to the child - try to get them to change the offending behavior, use what classroom punishments (staying after class, etc.) are appropriate. Next, you talk to the parents, see if they can offer insight, get the kid to change. Then you take it to the principal, if all that fails, for one final attempt, before you try to get the kid removed from your classroom or the school - but not because all their classmates voted them out, not with the useless public humiliation aspect that isn't going to do a bit of good for anyone.

All the children in the class were just taught two lessons - one - how to act like a mob and pick on one person, maybe to enjoy that power; two - that next time it could be them, if they step out of line.

 

[Diamond]

More email addresses...

Superintendent: [email protected]

School Board Chairman: [email protected]

Florida Department of Education: [email protected]


ETA: Also, 462 signed the petition so far!

 

[ttrachel04]

Is anyone e-mailing the teacher and/or administrators?

 

[Diamond]

Is anyone e-mailing the teacher and/or administrators?

I have...brief and polite, but to the point. She needs fired.

 

[txsvicki]

I just imagine that this horrible excuse of a teacher could be a big part of the poor child's behavior problems. She is abusive to him and to the other children in the class by trying to exert some sort of sicko power and maybe even force his parents into taking him out of school. Sick manipulation and sick of administrators to not do something about it. Special needs does have alot to do with it because the child is legally required to attend school or the parents will go to jail. Special needs kids with behavior problems are not always treated right and need extra fighting for than the kids who always act nice and never cause any problems. Many teachers resent the special needs kids and don't want to deal with them even though it's part of the job description.

Also, anyone with an IEP might also need a behavior plan and even pay an advocate to attend meetings. Our IEPs always included the principal, diagnostitian, school nurse, and counselor until I refused to have her there. I even had to pay an advocate 75$ per hour to finally get the help we really needed after three years of trying on our own.

 

[Diamond]

I agree, "txsvicki". I know of a school who pushed a special needs student out in either third or fourth grade. They kept playing up home-schooling to the mother, acting as if it was in his best interests...even though the mother didn't have a clue. Learning/knowing something and teaching something isn't the same. Also, if professionals couldn't do it...how could she on her own? So, she moved and he started another school. Ever since, everything has been wonderful. In fact, he's in 9th grade (soon to be 10th) and is getting all A's & B's...and is in many regular classes now. If she wouldn't have listened to her gut, who knows how he would be doing. Scary.

 

[Taximom]

This part of his story breaks my heart:

(after the vote)
The teacher then allegedly asked the boy where he would go now that the class doesn’t like him the boy replied, “to the office?” the teacher returned with “they do not want you there” then the 5 year old said “home” the teacher said your mom is at work you can’t go home. He finally said that he would go to the nurse and the teacher sent him out of the classroom to the office where he stayed for the remainder of the day.

(more at link from above by another poster)
http://69.89.31.226/~treasuv0/wordpress/?p=75

 

[Beyond Belief]

Hmm, i had read that this child had not yet been declared special needs and the teacher has been reassigned. I believe the child in question had been a problem with the oher kids all year. So I don't know if he was doing the bullying or what, but thats what it sounded like by the responses of the other children. Of course her approach was all wrong, but if the boy was hurting the other children something should have been done a long time ago.


Alex is currently under evaluation from the school for the possibility of being Autistic, and Asperger’s Disorder. His principal has initiated getting Alex’s proper diagnosis of Asperger’s Syndrome.

 

[Dena]

I'm not sure if any 5 year old deserves to be voted out of a classroom by his fellow peers....WTF?? Even if he isn't disabled and is just a little head!! I'm sure this wasn't the proper avenue for dismissing a child from the class!!

I think my post came across wrong, I meant, I am glad it was addressed because no child deserves to be treated like that, but non parents may not realize that.

 

[Autumn2004]

This part of his story breaks my heart:

(after the vote)
The teacher then allegedly asked the boy where he would go now that the class doesn’t like him the boy replied, “to the office?” the teacher returned with “they do not want you there” then the 5 year old said “home” the teacher said your mom is at work you can’t go home. He finally said that he would go to the nurse and the teacher sent him out of the classroom to the office where he stayed for the remainder of the day.

(more at link from above by another poster)
http://69.89.31.226/~treasuv0/wordpress/?p=75

Thats horrible. That poor little boy was bullied and purposely humiliated by his teacher. He had more manners than she did. I feel so bad for him.