State files motion to proceed with check fraudUPDATE CASE TO BE SCHEDULED

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chelle70 said:
Thanks for posting this. I agree, KC needs to go ahead and be tried for these financial charges, or just plead guilty, which I doubt she'll do! :mad:

BTW, I think that Bank of America paid Amy back for the money KC stole shortly after it all happened last summer.
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Amy got reimbursed for the stolen checks, but she will never get back the money that both KC and cindy stole from her.
ETA: The cash money that is..
 
I couldn't find where it said that the Judge would rule on this motion. Is there a date set for this hearing?
 
Reagan said:
Amy got reimbursed for the stolen checks, but she will never get back the money that both KC and cindy stole from her.
ETA: The cash money that is..
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She surely is out the money for her lawyer, and that is just the least of it. The way Baez said that she and Jesse were "For all intents and purposes suspect in this case", it is clear the defense is going to be A) The evidence isn't there to prove all the elements of the case and B) the same evidence could just as likely point to Jesse or Amy or the pair of them conspiring together. So, yes if I were Ms. Huzinga I certainly would want to have her held accountable and proven to be a liar. That is a devastating accusation to throw around the way Cindy did, and Jose did. I cannot even imagine how she must feel about it. Now with Jose asking for her phone records it is clear he wants to perpetuate the speculation that she had something to do with this baby's murder. The sooner Casey is found to be guilty of committing all the crimes she did against Ms. Huzinga, the sooner she can try to put her life back on track. As far as we know, she unlike Ricardo has not sold her story to the Globe or media outlets, but when the criminal trial is over I expect we'll see a made for TV movie told from her bird's eye view. I am sure her lawyer is already entertaining that idea, even if she doesn't know about it yet. Whatever innocence she may have had a year ago, will be long gone, sacrificed as collateral damage of Casey. There is no fair compensation for that, but I'd bet all the money in my pockets that Morgan and Mitnick lawyers would love to ask civil jurors to come up with a dollar amount to award her for this horrible injustice. If I were on such a civil jury for her or Jesse, I would vote to award them an absolutely amazing, obscene amount just to ensure that the Anthony's don't wind up in some luxury home behind the gates on blood money from our sweet baby's death!
 
There are so many who have been harmed by CA and KC. I think they ought to all sue the both of them. Even a suit for ole JB. He can't publicly say there "named" suspects. They are like pit bulls---grab hold and don't let go.
 
MAMABEAR said:
There are so many who have been harmed by CA and KC. I think they ought to all sue the both of them. Even a suit for ole JB. He can't publicly say there "named" suspects. They are like pit bulls---grab hold and don't let go.
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bbm:

Yeppers, but animal control can come in and put the pit bulls out of their misery. Can't do the same to JB crew. Shame.
 
Never mind---says within 60 days from June 19th. Surely it won't be 60 days. I sure hope they have the ZFG ID ready to show the world and this will be the way they bring this crap to a close.
 
The World According said:
She surely is out the money for her lawyer, and that is just the least of it. The way Baez said that she and Jesse were "For all intents and purposes suspect in this case", it is clear the defense is going to be A) The evidence isn't there to prove all the elements of the case and B) the same evidence could just as likely point to Jesse or Amy or the pair of them conspiring together. So, yes if I were Ms. Huzinga I certainly would want to have her held accountable and proven to be a liar. That is a devastating accusation to throw around the way Cindy did, and Jose did. I cannot even imagine how she must feel about it. Now with Jose asking for her phone records it is clear he wants to perpetuate the speculation that she had something to do with this baby's murder. The sooner Casey is found to be guilty of committing all the crimes she did against Ms. Huzinga, the sooner she can try to put her life back on track. As far as we know, she unlike Ricardo has not sold her story to the Globe or media outlets, but when the criminal trial is over I expect we'll see a made for TV movie told from her bird's eye view. I am sure her lawyer is already entertaining that idea, even if she doesn't know about it yet. Whatever innocence she may have had a year ago, will be long gone, sacrificed as collateral damage of Casey. There is no fair compensation for that, but I'd bet all the money in my pockets that Morgan and Mitnick lawyers would love to ask civil jurors to come up with a dollar amount to award her for this horrible injustice. If I were on such a civil jury for her or Jesse, I would vote to award them an absolutely amazing, obscene amount just to ensure that the Anthony's don't wind up in some luxury home behind the gates on blood money from our sweet baby's death!
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Amy and Jesse should sue the socks off of them including Jose. Also it is a common misconception that the money that Cindy took was not reimbursed to Amy, but it was. That cash was from the two hundred or two hundred and fifty dollar check that Casey wrote to herself for CASH and that money WAS returned to Amy's account. It was ACTUALLY the BANK that Cindy stole that money from, and not Amy at all.

I agree that Amy AND Jesse AND Zenaida should ALL be awarded obscenely HUGE awards so that NO Anthony EVER profits or lives luxuriously at the cost of Caylee's sweet little life. For their own part (Cindy, George AND Lee) in all of this, they should NOT be afforded one red cent from Caylee!:mad:
 
magic-cat said:
Amy and Jesse should sue the socks off of them including Jose. Also it is a common misconception that the money that Cindy took was not reimbursed to Amy, but it was. That cash was from the two hundred or two hundred and fifty dollar check that Casey wrote to herself for CASH and that money WAS returned to Amy's account. It was ACTUALLY the BANK that Cindy stole that money from, and not Amy at all.

I agree that Amy AND Jesse AND Zenaida should ALL be awarded obscenely HUGE awards so that NO Anthony EVER profits or lives luxuriously at the cost of Caylee's sweet little life. For their own part (Cindy, George AND Lee) in all of this, they should NOT be afforded one red cent from Caylee!:mad:
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BBM.

I so agree with this. There are people that have been victimized in this case, innocent people who have done nothing wrong. I have a feeling that for some of them the abuse has just begun. They should be compensated. Anyone that accuses innocent people of having been involved in a heinous crime, such as this one, should have to pay for those false allegations.
 
magic-cat said:
Amy and Jesse should sue the socks off of them including Jose. Also it is a common misconception that the money that Cindy took was not reimbursed to Amy, but it was. That cash was from the two hundred or two hundred and fifty dollar check that Casey wrote to herself for CASH and that money WAS returned to Amy's account. It was ACTUALLY the BANK that Cindy stole that money from, and not Amy at all.

I agree that Amy AND Jesse AND Zenaida should ALL be awarded obscenely HUGE awards so that NO Anthony EVER profits or lives luxuriously at the cost of Caylee's sweet little life. For their own part (Cindy, George AND Lee) in all of this, they should NOT be afforded one red cent from Caylee!:mad:
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There was another $400 in cash that came up missing prior to the PR trip. KC told AH she hid it while sleepwalking and KC would try to help Amy find it, which they never did. I believe a lot of people are referring to this money.
 
MAMABEAR said:
I couldn't find where it said that the Judge would rule on this motion. Is there a date set for this hearing?
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I'm trying to find this out as well! I did happen across this article from 2005 explaining the new law that came into effect concerning the States Motion:

Florida's new law, originally H.B. 285, creates a process by which a state attorney can file a demand for a speedy trial if the state has met its obligations under the rules of discovery and the court has granted at least three continuances, or delays, over the objection of prosecutors. Before such a demand can be filed in a felony case, though, 125 days must pass from the day that formal charges were filed and the defendant is arrested. For a misdemeanor, that time limit is 45 days.

When a state attorney files a speedy trial demand, a judge must schedule a calendar call within five days to set a trial date. Trial must then commence "no sooner than five days or later than 45 days," although the law allows for further postponements if a "necessary" witness failed twice to show up for deposition or a defense lawyer withdrew due a conflict of interest or other "good legal cause."


http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1119270949494


Maybe one of our "Legal Mind's" can help us out here? Please!?!? :smiliescale:
 
Thanks ClockWatcher! Seems like it will be any day now. It was filed on the 19th---5 days---26th is 5 working days?
 
MAMABEAR said:
Thanks ClockWatcher! Seems like it will be any day now. It was filed on the 19th---5 days---26th is 5 working days?
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MAMABEAR, you and I can only guesstimate at how the whole thing works. Google is my fickle friend, sometimes I can find the answers I want and other times Google takes me to places I really don't belong! I've been on a quest to find what a "calendar call" means in this case.

From what I've been able to determine, (probably way off the mark) the State has asked Judge S. to... hurry up already!!... and set a date for the check fraud charges. Depending on how he operates his courtroom and schedule, he may have set days of the week, or every other week for calendar call's. I'm not sure as to how that new law implemented in 2005 affects his schedule, as I haven't located that (yet!) in the Florida rules of procedure.

From what I've read so far, calendar calls are a kind of informal formality. Meaning, Judge S has his scheduled calendar call days and time, the parties show up and the judge says, "ok...I have this slot open in my calendar that I can squeeze you guys into." Then the party who filed for the calendar call has to "notice" everyone involved about the trial time and start doing all the pretrial stuff.

Like I said earlier, I'm probably way off the mark on how it all works, but until someone more knowledgeable than us can explain it accurately, this is what I think is happening.

Try reading at this site, linked below. It is from a different district (W. Palm Beach) but it did at least give me a little better understanding of what MAY be going down.

http://15thcircuit.co.palm-beach.fl.us/web/guest/judges/bonavita
 
Ok...this is why I'm not in the legal profession. I was searching, in backward kind of way :rolleyes: , for how that HB285, new law was entered into the statutes. Do you have any idea how damb dumb I feel??

DUH! Read the motion from the State, Clockwatcher!...Yikes, is it too early for an adult beverage?


960.0015 Victim's right to a speedy trial; speedy trial demand by the state attorney.--

(1) The state attorney may file a demand for a speedy trial if the state has met its obligations under the rules of discovery, the charge is a felony or misdemeanor, the court has granted at least three continuances upon the request of the defendant over the objection of the state attorney, and:

(a) If a felony case, it is not resolved within 125 days after the date that formal charges are filed and the defendant is arrested or the date that notice to appear in lieu of arrest is served upon the defendant; or

(b) If a misdemeanor case, it is not resolved within 45 days after the date that formal charges are filed and the defendant is arrested or the date that notice to appear in lieu of arrest is served upon the defendant.

(2) Upon the filing of a demand for a speedy trial, the trial court shall schedule a calendar call within 5 days, at which time the court shall schedule the trial to commence no sooner than 5 days or later than 45 days following the date of the calendar call. The court may, however, grant whatever further extension may be required to prevent deprivation of the defendant's right to due process.

(3)(a) The trial court may postpone the trial date for up to 30 additional days upon a showing by the defendant that a necessary witness who was properly served failed to attend the deposition and also failed to attend a subsequently scheduled deposition following a court order to appear. The court may, however, grant whatever further extension may be required to prevent deprivation of the defendant's right to due process.

(b) The trial court may also postpone the trial date for no fewer than 30 days but no more than 70 days if the court grants a motion by counsel to withdraw and the court appoints other counsel. The court may, however, grant whatever further extension may be required to prevent deprivation of the defendant's right to due process.

History.--s. 1, ch. 2005-44.


Don't forget Baez filed for a change of venue, which can throw a "monkey wrench" in the scheduling too.
 
Searchfortruth said:
BBM.

I so agree with this. There are people that have been victimized in this case, innocent people who have done nothing wrong. I have a feeling that for some of them the abuse has just begun. They should be compensated. Anyone that accuses innocent people of having been involved in a heinous crime, such as this one, should have to pay for those false allegations.
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ITA----I remember when I watched the A's on their last LKL and LK talked to them about finding the REAL killer if they believed KC to be innocent. Then he asked if they had any suspects..........I remember their smug faces and the long pause......I know I was thinking "don't do it---don't you dare name some innocent person"! Can you imagine how that was for the G's or AH to watch?

These people need to pay --not just KC for the ZG and JG comments but CA too for all the innocent people she named in an effort to help her guilty daughter! JMO


As far as KC taking a plea on either case? I can't see where SHE would see that has any benefits for her. She doesn't care what she puts her family through so why not take the gamble b/c that option at least gives her a chance of walking free. She probably can't see how little chance she has at "winner takes all" as she has always gotten her way in life up to that point. She doesn't believe for a second she will pay with her life for what she did to Caylee. I agree that the state needs to do the check fraud charges before the murder trial to establish that KC is the liar, AH, JG, even RM have been truthful. They need AH's testimony, not sure about JG, maybe his to testify that Caylee wasn't with her on the day she came to take a shower, and how he wasn't to speak to her family. RM, don't know if they need him, even if they did he kinda screwed that up with selling his story.

I can only say I wish to God that this thing would get started. It's gone on soo long now. I'd like to move on....to know Caylee rec'd justice. D@*n that saying "the wheels of justice turn slow" ? ---soo true!!!! JMO
 
ClockWatcher---Thanks so much for trying to help me. I still can't wrap my brain around what is happening. It isn't you. My brain has the power of a 5 yo. and I just don't understand all the legal mumbo jumbo. I never understood why legal papers have to be so (?) legal sounding. OMG I am hopeless. If they would just get on with the crap then I wouldn't have to try and understand. All I know is it has been 2 weeks since the state filed this mess and I want to go on with it.:blowkiss:
 
Oh MAMABEAR, it's not just you either. We should hear something soon, til then we'll just have to occupy our mind's with other, more pleasurable thought's!
 
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