State v Bradley Cooper 03/31/11

[TigerBalm]

Hmm, wonder if Brad (if convicted) will get to serve time in Canada.

Also, find it hard to believe that "being Canadian" would play a huge part in those determinations. Canada does not have the DP but we have certainly extradited persons to the US that are facing those charges in the past.

No, if he is convicted, he will be spending the rest of his natural life in prison, courtesy of the North Carolina Department of Correction.

The decision of charging a defendant with the DP depends on the aggravating circumstances of the case, not his/her citizenship.

 

[gracielee]

I guess I may be confused then, sorry..I thought IIRC Brad said he cleaned out the garage so she could get her car into the garage?..Must have gotten things mixed up..Sorry:waitasec:

LOL, Brad did say that. Unfortunately, Nancy never got to take advantage of the garage being cleaned out because she went and got herself murdered instead.

 

[kellyroll]

I don't think Canada extradites DP's back to the U.S. unless it's been agreed to not seek, do they? I could be wrong, but I think it's much like France, Mexico, etc. We have to agree to not seek death to get someone back. Especially if that person isn't a U.S. citizen.

Most often, but there have been exceptions (Charles Ng is one notable). And, in this case, the crime was committed in the US. I just wonder how much weight his nationality had in that decision.

Curious.

 

[SleuthinNC]

Wasn't that Brad's car that was in the garage after nancy 'went missing'? Unless Nancy took a remote with her on her jog, she wouldn't have been able to close the door after herself. Me, I usually use the front door, cause my garage door remote is usally in the bottom of my purse. Not handy to me. When I'm with my husband, he uses his remote. We don't park in our garage, it has a huge, maple gate-leg dining room table I purchased on craigslist. I really need to refinish the top of it someday.

She would have been able to open the garage door using the keypad on the outside of the door.

 

[SleuthinNC]

One thing that is probably important to remember about this phone is that it didn't actually belong to Brad, it was the property of Cisco. At this point we have no idea what if any data Cisco may have removed from the phone.

 

[jilly]

Correct..makes no nevermind if the person is Canadian or not...Remember that NG case..the torturer who fled to Canada..even he wouldnt be extradited unless DP off the table..and he was covicted of murder/torture of lots of people.....:sick:

And they don't get to serve their sentences in a Canadian prison either. another example - Rafay and Burns ( 2 Canadians) now serving three consecutive life sentences, without the possibility of parole.

 

[LyndyLoo]

One thing that is probably important to remember about this phone is that it didn't actually belong to Brad, it was the property of Cisco. At this point we have no idea what if any data Cisco may have removed from the phone.

Brad had 2 phones that we know of..Personal phone was a "Blackjack" which is the one they are referring..as for the Cisco Phone they would have to obtain a separate Court Order/S/W for that one as it actually was owned by Cisco..not Brad..

What Brad did or didnt not download will be captured on his work computers which they did obtain the correct warrants to take...Again..we are still awaiting to hear what they found on all these items...

 

[RaleighNC]

One thing that is probably important to remember about this phone is that it didn't actually belong to Brad, it was the property of Cisco. At this point we have no idea what if any data Cisco may have removed from the phone.

From my experience - Cisco pays the cell phone bill - but the employee owns the hardware. I suspect they'd have a way to wipe THEIR data, but not sure they could require anything else.

 

[TigerBalm]

What I think he said is that it was found on the counter in the purse. That made it confusing because he should have said in the purse on the counter. It made it sound like the phone was on the counter. That's what I took from it anyway.

Det. Young testified it was recovered from the purse of Carol Cooper.
(per my notes)

 

[johnfear]

Brad had 2 phones that we know of..Personal phone was a "Blackjack" which is the one they are referring..as for the Cisco Phone they would have to obtain a separate Court Order/S/W for that one as it actually was owned by Cisco..not Brad..

What Brad did or didnt not download will be captured on his work computers which they did obtain the correct warrants to take...Again..we are still awaiting to hear what they found on all these items...

The Search Warrant returned on March 4th,2011 states that the Samsung Blackjack was owned by Cisco. The warrant was served on Cisco because the phone had been in property.

The other phone was in his mom's purse. FYI, it was also a Black Jack, but was a Black Jack II. It only would have been out a few months at the time of his arrest.

Also, the deletion of the Cisco encryption key most likely would have torpedoed the lifetime minutes. The Black Jack is a pain in the butt to remove any type of proprietary software/information from.

 

[LyndyLoo]

From my experience - Cisco pays the cell phone bill - but the employee owns the hardware. I suspect they'd have a way to wipe THEIR data, but not sure they could require anything else.

I may be wrong..but Brad had 2 cells..at least he had 2 separate numbers for Nancy to call??..Not sure now..Boy this stuff gets confusing..I CANT WAIT until FBI EXPERT testifies...Hope Im around for that!!

 

[johnfear]

I may be wrong..but Brad had 2 cells..at least he had 2 separate numbers for Nancy to call??..Not sure now..Boy this stuff gets confusing..I CANT WAIT until FBI EXPERT testifies...Hope Im around for that!!

No kidding. Somebody was joking around about how many kittens would be had if the state pops up Friday at 1:00 and says: The State rests, Your Honor.

I can't wait to hear the FBI stuff. If it turns out to be nothing, I might loose my marbles.

 

[LyndyLoo]

The Search Warrant returned on March 4th,2011 states that the Samsung Blackjack was owned by Cisco. The warrant was served on Cisco because the phone had been in property.

The other phone was in his mom's purse. FYI, it was also a Black Jack, but was a Black Jack II. It only would have been out a few months at the time of his arrest.

Also, the deletion of the Cisco encryption key most likely would have torpedoed the lifetime minutes. The Black Jack is a pain in the butt to remove any type of proprietary software/information from.

All I know is he had 2 cells..last numbers being 2723 Cisco and 1196 Brads..SO have no clue just which phone the big fireworks was about at this point??????????/

 

[Cheyenne130]

No kidding. Somebody was joking around about how many kittens would be had if the state pops up Friday at 1:00 and says: The State rests, Your Honor.

I can't wait to hear the FBI stuff. If it turns out to be nothing, I might loose my marbles.

Unfortunately I don't think we're going to get to hear it. I think someone has said that they are undercover so no camera, no sound.

 

[LyndyLoo]

Unfortunately I don't think we're going to get to hear it. I think someone has said that they are undercover so no camera, no sound.

Computer Experts are Undercover peeps??..Doesnt sound right..I have seen FBI experts like this testify before in other cases??

 

[johnfear]

Unfortunately I don't think we're going to get to hear it. I think someone has said that they are undercover so no camera, no sound.

I don't think the FBI tech guys are undercover for this one. If so, I will leave work and drive to the court room with an iPad to give everyone a play-by-play.

I don't think any of the folks here could live without that particular rundown.

 

[SleuthinNC]

From my experience - Cisco pays the cell phone bill - but the employee owns the hardware. I suspect they'd have a way to wipe THEIR data, but not sure they could require anything else.

Definitely not always the case particularly in the case of the blackjack phones. There would have been email, probably documents, contacts, yadda, yadda, yadda. Point being there may have not been much on there that would not have been retrieved and saved by Cisco.

 

[kellyroll]

Correct..makes no nevermind if the person is Canadian or not...Remember that NG case..the torturer who fled to Canada..even he wouldnt be extradited unless DP off the table..and he was covicted of murder/torture of lots of people.....:sick:

Charles Ng was extradited from Canada and is on death row at San Quentin.

 

[johnfear]

Charles Ng was extradited from Canada and is on death row at San Quentin.

Yes. The longest and most costly extradition battle to date. Worth every penny. They should skip those appeals, IMO.

 

[kellyroll]

Yes. The longest and most costly extradition battle to date. Worth every penny. They should skip those appeals, IMO.

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