State v Bradley Cooper 04/04/11

[SleuthyGal]

You mean pre-planning.

Premeditation was already met by virtue of the manner/means of death.

 

[cityslick]

To me, this proves Brad HAS BEEN to the dump site PRIOR to Nancys demise.

Big honkin' finger pointing to PREMEDITATION, IMO

How exactly does it prove it? It was his running shoes, he could have gotten that mica from anywhere. They only tested 3 locations.

 

[ncsu95]

Be interesting when the defense presents their case if there is as much criticism of them as there is of the prosecution....I bet not.

That's because the prosecution has done a horrible, disjointed job so far. They are all over the place with their strategy and theories.

 

[NCEast]

Be interesting when the defense presents their case if there is as much criticism of them as there is of the prosecution....I bet not.

I agree, and I'll be the first to admit that I've been very critical of the defense's case....and Mr. Cummings. And I apologize to a degree. In such a high profile case, I guess I was holding the ADA's office to higher standards and I've been disappointed. Some of the witness testimony has seemed less than prepared, some has been just off the wall, some has been excellent. I don't think they prepped the officer from first thing this morning as well as they could have and it was apparent.

 

[snowshuze]

How exactly does it prove it? It was his running shoes, he could have gotten that mica from anywhere. They only tested 3 locations.

At the beginning of her testimony, she said from all over NC.

 

[gracielee]

How exactly does it prove it? It was his running shoes, he could have gotten that mica from anywhere. They only tested 3 locations.

I didn't hear that they only tested 3 locations. These were the three referred to in direct testimony.

 

[ncsu95]

To me, this proves Brad HAS BEEN to the dump site PRIOR to Nancys demise.

Big honkin' finger pointing to PREMEDITATION, IMO

Really? This proves it?

 

[FullDisclosure]

Her body would not have been in full rigor even if he killed her at 12:30am and dumped her at 6am. Yes, according to that article there would be some rigor, but not complete rigor, which takes up to 12 hrs.

Yes, I know from the reading that it takes up to 12 hours for full rigor, but it commences in about 3 hours (or earlier, according to some sites) it also lasts about 72 hours. I was asking folks to consider how that may factor in to where he kept the body, how it was dumped, and the position it was found in.

 

[SleuthyGal]

Brad didn't wear booties either! LOL

 

[ncsu95]

So none of the other places that Brad went to (while being followed by CPD) were tested except Lochmere Lake.

 

[sunshine05]

I found this:

Elemental compositions of individual white mica grains were examined to determine the possibility of a physical link between a suspect and the crime scene in the first degree murder trial, North Carolina v. Jordan Peterson. Mica collected from clothing evidence were analyzed for major elemental compositions and compared to elemental compositions of mica grains from the crime scene using a JEOL JXA 8530F Hyperprobe at Fayetteville State University in Fayetteville, North Carolina. In diagrams of Na2O vs. K2O and Al2O3 vs. K2O, two populations of mica and significant overlap of compositional fields were evident for the crime scene micas and the micas from the clothing evidence. In diagrams of SiO2 vs. MgO and FeO vs. MgO, micas from the crime scene and micas from the evidence show significant overlap in compositional fields and exhibit similar geochemical trends. The overlap in compositional fields and two populations of mica for the crime scene and evidence samples suggest they are consistent with each other.

The compositional data from the crime scene and evidence were also compared to compositions of white mica from “index samples” collected from three locations in the greater Raleigh area (the Falls Lake area, the Triangle Quarry and the Knightdale Quarry). Detailed geologic maps, partially funded by the STATEMAP program, allowed for effective selection of index sample locations. The compositional data suggest micas from the evidence and crime scene have different chemical compositions than the index sample micas.

Link:
http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2011SE/finalprogram/abstract_185200.htm


So maybe there is something to this?

 

[cityslick]

At the beginning of her testimony, she said from all over NC.

They only compared 3 locations, Lochmere, Fielding and Wallsburg. Defense just asked if they tested Regency and Lake Johnson (where he also searched) and she said no.

 

[SleuthyGal]

Yes, I know from the reading that it takes up to 12 hours for full rigor, but it commences in about 3 hours (or earlier, according to some sites) it also lasts about 72 hours. I was asking folks to consider how that may factor in to where he kept the body, how it was dumped, and the position it was found in.

We need a scientist or M.E. to post!

Apparently it didn't stop someone (BRAD, IMO) from moving her body and getting it to where it was found.

 

[uncfan]

Now you'd need to check mica deposits at all the places the RE agent took them to look at lots, like Cameron Pond.

Not terribly convinced by this new evidence.

 

[SleuthinNC]

I noticed that she said she was given the direction as to which soil samples to collect form the DA's office and Det. Young said she and the other mineral expert were the ones who determined which soil samples to collect.

 

[snowshuze]

Really? This proves it?

The burden of proof in a court of law <NOT a message board> is beyond a reasonable doubt. Not beyond ANY doubt. If there was a video of Brad disposing of Nancys body, you would probably even question that, IMO.

 

[SleuthyGal]

She decided which soil samples to collect and take from the areas they visited (meaning the different physical areas).

 

[SleuthyGal]

She's a very credible witness! Clear, no bias, just the science.

 

[cityslick]

The burden of proof in a court of law <NOT a message board> is beyond a reasonable doubt. Not beyond ANY doubt. If there was a video of Brad disposing of Nancys body, you would probably even question that, IMO.

Can you explain why you think it proves he was at the dump site prior when she only collected samples from 3 locations and not even all the areas he searched (not to mention where he used them while running)?

I'm really interested in your answer.

 

[SleuthyGal]

I bet there were white mica masses on those shoes he disposed of--the ones he was wearing the morning of 7/12/08...the ones sitting in a landfill somewhere.