State vs Jason Lynn Young 2-10-12

[Madeleine74]

A one-way trip from Hillsville, VA to Raleigh is not 3 hours in normal conditions. JTF drove it twice. He averaged 2 hrs, 25 min, and he said he never went more than 10mph over the speed limit.

The defense keeps trying to say 3 hrs as a way of altering the timeline and I see it repeated here as well.

It should take no more than 2 hrs and 35 min. And that's going slightly below the speed limit of 65.

 

[octobermoon]

I just agreed with JVM :thud:

 

[Just the Fax]

A one-way trip from Hillsville, VA to Raleigh is not 3 hours in normal conditions. JTF drove it twice. He averaged 2 hrs, 25 min, and he said he never went more than 10mph over the speed limit.

The defense keeps trying to say 3 hrs as a way of altering the timeline and I see it repeated here as well.

It should take no more than 2 hrs and 35 min. And that's going slightly below the speed limit of 65.

All of the trip is 4 lanes , with most wide open interstate at 65MPH.
I found it interesting he was a gambler. Many are impulsive risk takers.
I bet he was used his documented lead foot and made it faster than I did.

 

[otto]

Yes, it seems to happen in every circumstancial case were the people for the accused make excuses/explanations for singular pieces of evidence against the accused to explain away their guilt... not taking into mind there are many/alot/mountains of these individual pieces of evidence that together leave LITTLE doubt who was/is responsible.

There's no question that the guy was a jerk ... we've known that for a long time. Did he murder his wife ... perhaps he did. I think that in order to prove it, there has to be a pretty solid "connecting of the dots" from the hotel, home and back to the hotel. I don't think he should be convicted on being a jerk, as that could put an awful lot of men in prison.

I don't think that expecting the dots to be connected means that the evidence is viewed in singular pieces. I think that first there has to be a separation between evidence pointing towards murder and evidence pointing towards being a jerk. After that, the evidence that points to murder should be looked at individually to assess whether it is valid (gas station testimony, 3 allele evidence, etc.). Then, the totality of valid evidence that supports guilt of the suspect should be evaluated.

 

[Boodles]

All of the trip is 4 lanes , with most wide open interstate at 65MPH.
I found it interesting he was a gambler. Many are impulsive risk takers.
I bet he was used his documented lead foot and made it faster than I did.

JTF, if you don't mind my asking, how long did it take you? And what time of day did you drive it?

 

[dgfred]

How about some evidence (anything) that he wasn't a jerk, that he wasn't fooling around, that he COULD NOT have committed the murder. All these 'things' point to the person that may have committed the murder... whether singular pieces are torn down some or not.

Does anything whatsoever point to anyone else? Anything at all?

 

[Just the Fax]

JTF, if you don't mind my asking, how long did it take you? And what time of day did you drive it?

2 hours / 25 minutes

I recall one time was a weekday, mid afternoon.
Traffic light to moderate, no braking or delays.
I never exceeded the speed limit more than 10MPH.

 

[3doglady]

I would like to say this: while *I* was in a physically-abusive relationship, I would ALWAYS deny it. I did this to preserve the relationship (stupid, stupid me) and keep up appearances - I did NOT want to be the one who would be in that situation. So there was big-time denial on my part. That said, I don't necessarily think Jason was physically abusive to Michelle (before he murdered her, of course!), but just b/c Michelle didn't tell anyone that doesn't mean it wasn't happening.

The rumor at PE immediately after MY's murder was that JY was having an affair and he killed her. That tells me that MY told at least one co-worker some bad things.

 

[RaleighNC]

All of the trip is 4 lanes , with most wide open interstate at 65MPH.
I found it interesting he was a gambler. Many are impulsive risk takers.
I bet he was used his documented lead foot and made it faster than I did.

I can easily make it to Wytheville, VA in 3 hours any day of the week - and that's towing a trailer so not speeding. Mapquest shows Wytheville is 3h 21m and Hillsville is 24 minutes less. I contend Hillsville is an easy 2h 35m - easily less in a car, or with some countermeasures (radar detector).

(Note - we call Wytheville "Wizzville" because that's usually the first reasonable fuel and bathroom break and we're definitely NEEDING to stop by then...) I've driven that route probably 12 times. Strange town - there are 2 Flying J's there - about 4 miles apart. Weird.

 

[Madeleine74]

JTF brought up a really good point somewhere... On the way from Hillsville to Raleigh, JY was probably hauling butt and speeding. If he got pulled over, then he would just abort the plan and head back to the hotel. He could have made it back to his house a bit earlier than what we are assuming, depending on if he was speeding and by how much.

Then, on the way back to Hillsville, he would have been a lot more careful to not speed so as to not get pulled over.

By my calculation, he had upwards of an hour at his house.

 

[PoppyMcTwist]

I have a question about the rock-in-the-door issue. I had assumed the rock was placed in the doorway of Jason's hotel room, but today on In Session they showed photos of what seemed to be a hotel back exit, or utility door. Which door was it? *Confuzzled*

Thank you in advance and thank you for all of the insightful comments on this thread. I've enjoyed reading along as I watch the trial.

IMO

 

[Madeleine74]

Poppy,

The rock was placed in an emergency exit door, which led straight out to the side parking lot. He had also earlier unplugged the video camera covering that exit so he wouldn't be caught on the surveillance video. As far as his hotel room door, he placed some kind of shim so that the lock would not engage when he closed the door. This way he didn't have to use his key card except for the first time he entered his room upon checking in. His story is that he left his room 3 times that night. But he didn't have or use his key card on any of those reentries.

 

[johnfear]

How about some evidence (anything) that he wasn't a jerk, that he wasn't fooling around, that he COULD NOT have committed the murder. All these 'things' point to the person that may have committed the murder... whether singular pieces are torn down some or not.

Does anything whatsoever point to anyone else? Anything at all?

Well, you guys keep saying he stopped mid murder or post murder, cleaned up his kid and put her to bed (possibly drugging her). That seems kind!

I guess it's out to ask if you guys saw surveillance video of three teenagers casing the house the same day she was killed to think that would be reasonable doubt eh?

 

[dgfred]

You got video?

 

[dgfred]

Maybe three teens did do it, for no reason at all- leaving no evidence of it. One beat her to death, one cleaned her baby's feet, one was watchout. All three decided not to tell, and they didn't steal anything. Is that how it goes?

 

[Cammy]

I am not sure we have evidence that he said he hated her - but - he did say "I could kill you for not letting me finish the yard in the morning"

There was a LOT of hostility in that email. I read it as a lot of anger - just below the surface - saying a child "pissed herself" and everything else - not to mention a thinly veiled threat about Michelle better hope the beer kicked in (or what?)

That was an ugly, ugly email - one that showed little regard for his child (and yes - I'll say he was a bad father based on just that) and to me makes him sound like a powder keg looking for a fuse.

Maybe my life is sedate and maybe because I love my husband - but I can't imagine writing such venom. It seemed like it was a man seething about all the unfairness in his life....

Do you know the background of that email, not that I am justifying it, but the power had gone out, Jason had wanted to finish cutting the grass, and I guess got interrupted, and it was summer and no a/c in the house, or tv for CY.

Things get taken out of context and made to look worse than they are sometimes.

JMO

 

[gracielee]

Remember this was 2006. Cell phones were common and most people had them, but I don't feel like we were as obsessed with being constantly on-call as we are in 2012.

The only successful smartphone at that point were non-touch blackberries.

Someone remind me again how many calls there were between JLY & MM???

 

[Cammy]

I just agreed with JVM :thud:

:what:

 

[Cammy]

The court stipulated it was a 2 hour and 40 minute drive and both sides agreed on it.

It is 170 miles and through the mountains.

Jason left home at 7:30 , stopped in Greensboro at CB for 30 minutes, and arrived at the hotel at 10:54......That is 3 hours and 24 minutes after he left home, subtract the 30 minute meal , and that is 2 hours and 54 minutes.........

Take off a few minutes here and there for the gas station in Raleigh, getting in and out of the car at CB, and walking from his car from the hotel parking lot.
2 hours+40 minutes, nothing else matters unless it was on the nite Jason did it, and road conditions and weather and all that were taken into the same consideration.

Det. Brent David testified it was close to 3 hours.
Det, Brent David checked the airport at Raleigh/Durham for private flights because of how long it took.

 

[otto]

Do you know the background of that email, not that I am justifying it, but the power had gone out, Jason had wanted to finish cutting the grass, and I guess got interrupted, and it was summer and no a/c in the house, or tv for CY.

Things get taken out of context and made to look worse than they are sometimes.

JMO

Maybe the defense will produce several emails demonstrating that they got along fine and were nice to each other. We've seen a hand-picked number of particularly acrimonious emails ... they can't all be like that.