State vs Jason Lynn Young 2-7-12

[Cammy]

If you have proof that unknown DNA was found on the dropper could you kindly provide a link? This was not stated at trial or amongst any evidence that I can find.

It was a fingerprint that did not belong to Jason or Michelle, and it did come in at first trial.

 

[otto]

It would not take a drug rep to know that if a drug says "causes drowsiness" on the packaging, then it will cause drowsiness in a child. Anybody who could read could work that out.

That's really weak evidence against Jason Young.

I have been wondering why the medicine is included in the prosecution's theory. There's nothing about the child that indicates she was drugged, there's nothing on the medicine to indicate that Jason handled it on the night of the murder. If anything, it almost supports the "unknown" intruder theory.

 

[LuLa]

ITA. Her voice in the background of the 911 call sounded animated, chatty and not at all drugged. The other thing I noticed in the 911 call was that she didn't call out to her mommy. She spoke about her, not to her. Most kids that age want mommy's attention and get upset if she doesn't respond.

JMO

She had been there most likely for several hours. JY probably told her Mommy will be ok, & your Emmy will be here soon to get you. There's not much telling what JY said to her before he left the home.

 

[RaleighNC]

I disagree that a toddler is a "jr. adult" or that all medications are safe to give them. I also disagree that there is nothing to say a drug can not be used in a child. The FDA does regulate prescribed drugs, not the drug companies who make them.

JMO

Kids may metabolize things at a different weight, and the dosage may not be linear to body weight, - but please show me a drug that cannot be given to a child but that is safe for adults.

Not a drug that is just not recommended for children....

And what's the "magic" age that is does become safe?

 

[Cammy]

I didn't know that ... the night audit clerk testified that there were problems with the time stamps on the cameras. That suggests that any testimony regarding time stamps about cameras on or off could be incorrect.

For one thing , I am not understanding why they are doing the Hampton Inn stuff now, there are other out of town witnesses as well, such as MM and CAS.

But, I did learn there was also a breakfast person in the area that am,

Jason must have got by her too.

 

[LuLa]

It was a fingerprint that did not belong to Jason or Michelle, and it did come in at first trial.

You're right. Also the fact that JY's DNA was found on the rock the clerk had kicked out from the door. That was JY's own expert that testified to that. All was in the first trial.

 

[Cammy]

Thanx!

If Cassidy only saw her dad after the killing, he might have said he was helping her mom w/ her boo boos. That would also answer why she said, "Daddy did it" & why she wasn't afraid of him.

I have never heard Cassidy say that, but I did hear MF tell the 911 operator that Cassidy told her there was someone in the house.

 

[Cammy]

You're right. Also the fact that JY's DNA was found on the rock the clerk had kicked out from the door. That was JY's own expert that testified to that. All was in the first trial.

Shawn Weiss testified that the DNA on the rock was nowhere near a match to Jason Young's DNA during the defense cross.

We will hear it all again......

 

[Cammy]

Where are the gloves ?

 

[LuLa]

I have been wondering why the medicine is included in the prosecution's theory. There's nothing about the child that indicates she was drugged, there's nothing on the medicine to indicate that Jason handled it on the night of the murder. If anything, it almost supports the "unknown" intruder theory.

She could have been drugged, right before JY left the home. JY cleaned her up, gave her just enough of whatever was in the bottle, to get her to sleep. Several hours had gone by, before Meredith got there. I think alot of the blood, if not all, was dried, by the time the child got up & headed into her Mommy's bedroom. jmo

 

[JiminWilton]

HC is a completely disorganized prosecutor who asks dumb questions the answers to which seem to elude him.

What is the relevance of the operating hoursf or the computer and printer?
What is the relevance of the "newspaper thing" location?
What is the relevance of the color of "that thing"?
Why is the access to the elevator relevant?
Why asking about the "check out thing" coming out of the printer.

Just me?

 

[Cammy]

Can you hear Becky whispering to Howard?

 

[Candy_Pickletoes]

Does anyone truly believe a random intruder angry enough to beat Michelle the way he/she did would leave a living witness AND give that witness medication?

There are times during trials that one must use their common sense. An unknown intruder took it upon him/herself to clean the child and give the child medication instead of just bludgeoning her as well. It took a LOT of effort to do to Michelle what was done to her, it would have taken only a fraction of that effort to kill Cassidy as well. An intruder, willing to commit murder in the most up-close and personal way as Michelle was killed isn't finding some kind of morality when it is time to turn on the child. Suddenly the white light of God shines down upon him and makes him realize the errors of his ways, he picks up the child, takes her into the bathroom, cleans her up (all but for the cuticles of her toenails), gives her some medication, and puts her to bed? It just doesn't make sense.

What does make sense is Daddy comes home, attacks mommy, mommy screams, Cassidy wakes up and toddles into Mommy & Daddy's room just as daddy took the final fatal blow, she toddles over to mommy stepping in blood, daddy sees this, picks her up, brings her to the bathroom, tells her to stay there until daddy can get back, closes the door, does his staging of the room and cleaning himself up, returns to Cassidy in the bathroom, cleans her up, but doesn't pay close enough attention to her toenail cuticles, thinks it will take WAY too long to clean the bathroom floor AND if he does it only points more towards his guilt should investigators use Luminol in the home, decides to leave the prints on the bathroom floor, picks up Cassidy, lays her down on his side of the bed, gives her some medication to "help" her sleep, places Cassidy's dolly next to mommy's dead body as he leaves the room, goes downstairs, does some final clean-up at the hose outside, hops in his car and returns to VA.

There is an absolute fact in evidence...Cassidy's bloody footprints most certainly were in that bathroom, so to say she was never in the room with her dead/dying mother is not a statement of fact. She most certainly was there, it's just a question of when she was there. I believe someone insinuated that Cassidy was never even in that room, there is no denying the fact that she was at some point.

Those questioning the fact that Cassidy wasn't afraid of her father the next time she saw him: I propose that Cassidy didn't actually see daddy strike mommy, just the aftermath, perhaps seeing him near Michelle's body sparking the comment "Daddy did it" (which, while disputed, I most certainly heard twice in that 911 tape).

I find it very, very unlucky for Mr. Jason Young that the following just so happened to occur on the exact same night his wife was murdered:

A hotel that has never noted problems with their security cameras or people putting rocks/sticks in doors suddenly has an unplugged security camera, a rock/stick in the door, and a security camera deliberately pushed towards the ceiling. All of this and it just so happens that this is the exact same hotel that JY stays at. Man, the bad luck.

This is no coincidence and the circumstantial evidence in this case is enough to find this man guilty of taking Cassidy's mother away from her.

Jason Young had the motive, he had the means, and he has no alibi.

JMO

 

[Mama-cita]

It would not take a drug rep to know that if a drug says "causes drowsiness" on the packaging, then it will cause drowsiness in a child. Anybody who could read could work that out.

That's really weak evidence against Jason Young.

The pancol df was from JYs samples. Pharmaceutical samples do not have symptoms listed on the packaging like drugs you buy in a retail store. This is because they are not going to the consumer. They are going to a physician, with implicit instructions on how to use them, the doctor, when handing out samples to the patients would then advise the patient on proper use. Some of the sample drugs have little information leaflets inside them. Some do not. I recently received a bag full of ointment samples for eczema from my kind dermatologist, there is nothing on the little bottles stating any side effects or contraindications. So it is highly unlikely that a layperson would know to use pancol for drowsiness. As stated before I am a nurse and I had to look it up, as did my pharmacist husband! A generic drug can have many different trade names! So unless our murderer had a PDR (physicians drug reference) handy, he wouldn't have known what it was for. For all the average person knows, pancol
Is for libido!

 

[rockin10]

I have never heard Cassidy say that, but I did hear MF tell the 911 operator that Cassidy told her there was someone in the house.

Probably because when she fell back asleep her daddy was still there. imo

 

[LuLa]

Where are the gloves ?

Same place the size 10 shoes are most likely. Dumped somewhere on the route back to the Hampton Inn.

 

[Cammy]

HC is a completely disorganized prosecutor who asks dumb questions the answers to which seem to elude him.

What is the relevance of the operating hoursf or the computer and printer?
What is the relevance of the "newspaper thing" location?
What is the relevance of the color of "that thing"?
Why is the access to the elevator relevant?
Why asking about the "check out thing" coming out of the printer.

Just me?

I agree, some of us thought the last trial was disjointed, but this is even worse.
Discombobulated comes to mind.

 

[Cappuccino]

That is indeed a very convincing case, Candy. However, I'd still like to hear the case for the defense before I make up my mind.

 

[gracielee]

Where are the gloves ?

With his bloody clothes and shoes, of course. Probably the same place OJ got rid of his knife. :fence:

 

[Cammy]

Same place the size 10 shoes are most likely. Dumped somewhere on the route back to the Hampton Inn.

Lol, no, I meant the gloves that were supposed to be "introduced" in this trial that Jason had with him when he left the hotel and are
"supposedly" in the video.