State vs Jason Lynn Young 6-10-11

[otto]

Do inmates know the details of other inmate's crimes? Do they pay attention to that stuff? I don't imagine many inmates sitting there reading the newspaper and they don't have computer access.

I'm sure they can watch the news.

 

[Just the Fax]

Do inmates know the details of other inmate's crimes? Do they pay attention to that stuff? I don't imagine many inmates sitting there reading the newspaper and they don't have computer access.

JLY will fit right in. In fact, his crime is probably a badge of honor among the other killers and rapists he will spend the rest of his life with.
Remember JLY is a self-proclaimed sex addict. I'm thinking he will need to watch his back more than most of the others. Betcha his tight azz will be a hit. :great:

 

[lib's mom]

Do inmates know the details of other inmate's crimes? Do they pay attention to that stuff? I don't imagine many inmates sitting there reading the newspaper and they don't have computer access.

I don't know if you're talking to me, but that surprised me too. Because I thought the same thing. My friend told me that they (the inmates) do know and that it is very valuable information to have. With as much interest as this case has Jason's arrival won't be a secret. I can't wait to find out where he is transferred to.:woohoo:

 

[lib's mom]

JLY will fit right in. In fact, his crime is probably a badge of honor among the other killers and rapists he will spend the rest of his life with.
Remember JLY is a self-proclaimed sex addict. I'm thinking he will need to watch his back more than most of the others. Betcha his tight azz will be a hit. :great:

Hey JTF-Jason will be homecoming Queen. I'm just saying.

 

[Just the Fax]

NC prison stats:

35% white
24% finished high school

http://www.doc.state.nc.us/Publications/Stats2011.pdf

 

[jilly]

Sorry, not following you.
My assumption is JY got back in the hotel around 6:10AM(arrived from King NC) and turned the camera up (from behind) so he could then slip up the west stairs undetected. It is not a stretch to assume he reentered the west exit door as another guest was either coming in or out.

Normally I would consider that a longshot but he sure had luck with 2 cameras not working.

 

[jilly]

I don't know if you're talking to me, but that surprised me too. Because I thought the same thing. My friend told me that they (the inmates) do know and that it is very valuable information to have. With as much interest as this case has Jason's arrival won't be a secret. I can't wait to find out where he is transferred to.:woohoo:

I would expect word of mouth too from visitors and guards. We used to have a poster here with the Scott Peterson case and she had a brother on DRow at SQ. She would see SP when she went to visit her brother.

Thanks for elaborating - certainly "worth" something with my naiveity!

 

[gracielee]

Ok, you see it differently.

So is this going to turn into another case of 'the cops are crooked and out to frame the husband' again? This is only my second case here, Brad Cooper being the first. I was under the impression WS's was a 'victim friendly' discussion group. I didn't think it centered around crooked cops and crooked prosecutors *attitude*? Is it always like this here? This is a serious question? I don't approach every crime as though the 'cops are out to get the wrong person.' MOO

 

[otto]

So is this going to turn into another case of 'the cops are crooked and out to frame the husband' again? This is only my second case here, Brad Cooper being the first. I was under the impression WS's was a 'victim friendly' discussion group. I didn't think it centered around crooked cops and crooked prosecutors *attitude*? Is it always like this here? This is a serious question? I don't approach every crime as though the 'cops are out to get the wrong person.' MOO

I'm responding to the apparent excitement about the gas bar clerk's testimony. Unlike eye-witness testimony in the Cooper trial, eye-witness testimony in this trial is cheered and viewed as solid evidence crucial in jury deliberations. One day eye-witnesses are useless and deserving of ridicule and the next they are on pedestals. Personally, I'm surprised at the quick flip. Perhaps the difference is that eye-witness testimony in the Cooper case was on behalf of the defense and in this case it is on behalf of the prosecution. That said, I am expressing the opinion that I do not see the gas bar clerk's as strong for reasons I have already stated. This does not equate to a comment against the victim. It is an observation regarding a trial witness. I am not in any way attached to the victims in these cases and view trials as a battle of the wits between lawyers. I'm not cheering a team, merely commenting on the players.

 

[otto]

I just finished Amanda Lamb's book about Stephanie Bennett. I was curious about her writing after seeing that she's writing a Nancy Cooper book ... probably a Michelle Fisher Young book too. She'll have her hands full in the next few months trying to wrap up the books. I have to say that it's a good read, although she tends to write like a reporter. That is, she keeps repeating basic facts throughout the book that only need to be mentioned once or at most twice. That small problem becomes irritating, but the content keeps one reading through to the end. I was very impressed with the investigative work and wondered if Perry, Taylor and Copeland were involved in this investigation. It looks like the murder of Michelle was 10 months after closing the Bennett case, so they would have been ideal for relying on old fashioned police work to solve the murder.

 

[cody100]

I'm responding to the apparent excitement about the gas bar clerk's testimony. Unlike eye-witness testimony in the Cooper trial, eye-witness testimony in this trial is cheered and viewed as solid evidence crucial in jury deliberations. One day eye-witnesses are useless and deserving of ridicule and the next they are on pedestals. Personally, I'm surprised at the quick flip. Perhaps the difference is that eye-witness testimony in the Cooper case was on behalf of the defense and in this case it is on behalf of the prosecution. That said, I am expressing the opinion that I do not see the gas bar clerk's as strong for reasons I have already stated. This does not equate to a comment against the victim. It is an observation regarding a trial witness. I am not in any way attached to the victims in these cases and view trials as a battle of the wits between lawyers. I'm not cheering a team, merely commenting on the players.

I think the quick flip here confirms this is very much a victim friendly site. However, it is also composed of some of the smartest people. I have read your posts and see nothing to indicate police or prosecution corruption. I am very impressed with all the courtroom personnel in this case, including JS. Then I have been impressed with JS for years. I think it is fair game to comment on witnesses and how well you think they have done without detracting from the horrible wrong done the victim, the daughter, and the family of the victim in this case.

 

[otto]

I think the quick flip here confirms this is very much a victim friendly site. However, it is also composed of some of the smartest people. I have read your posts and see nothing to indicate police or prosecution corruption. I am very impressed with all the courtroom personnel in this case, including JS. Then I have been impressed with JS for years. I think it is fair game to comment on witnesses and how well you think they have done without detracting from the horrible wrong done the victim, the daughter, and the family of the victim in this case.

It seems to me that by the time we see a trial, it is only about the legal arguments; which can result in a guilty man walking free. I firmly believe that Jason is guilty, but the investigation took several years and the evidence that I'm aware of is a bit shakey. The gas bar clerk's testimony is weak, in my opinion. The evidence is gruesome. I need to see a direct connect-the-dots between the evidence and the accused. Having a gut feeling because the accused, the spouse, ducked police for a few years isn't evidence. After that we have two sets of footprints and other circumstantial evidence. I like to see how it all comes together.

 

[borndem]

I'm 6'5" so I can't relate. Although, I do envy short people when I fly.

Yep, I understand that about airplanes! I have no problem, even in those little Fokkers (Dutch Aircraft - little Fokker 100 holds 100; one seat on one side, two seats on the other). I'm sure one of those little Fokkers would be tuff for someone over about 5'5'...

Otherwise, the world was just not made for short people.

 

[gracielee]

Yep, I understand that about airplanes! I have no problem, even in those little Fokkers (Dutch Aircraft - little Fokker 100 holds 100; one seat on one side, two seats on the other). I'm sure one of those little Fokkers would be tuff for someone over about 5'5'...

Otherwise, the world was just not made for short people.

Oh I used to fly in one of those 'little Fokkers' between Chicago and Milwaukee, years and years ago. Can't even remember the airline anymore. Little prop jobs. No through flights in those days between Milw. and RDU. Caught the last one out of Chi late one February night, right before they closed down O'Hare due to blizzard conditions. As we got airbound, the pilot tells us 'if you are going further north than Milw., you'll have to take a bus, as Mitchell Field is also closed. Didn't give one a feeling of security that a safe landing would occur. :rocker:

anic:

:anguish:

:gasp:

The landing felt like a bumpy rollercoaster ride at the old state fair park. Seats had plenty of leg room for me though.

 

[No Coincidence]

I have been following this thread, and several others for quite some time regarding this case. Being that my ideas/opinions are strongly reflected in those of JTF, I have felt no need to post- as I didnt have a user name. Upon much deep thought surrounding the cameras at the hotel where JY "stayed" (ha), I cant find an explanation for one thing. If someone left out of the door that JY re-entered in, thus creating an opportunity for him to enter without a key card, wouldn't this person have been seen on the camera BEFORE JY pushed it towards the ceiling on his way in? The 15 seconds before JY walked in should have shown someone walking out. Is this where the rapid picture film possibly missed someone exiting?

 

[gracielee]

I have been following this thread, and several others for quite some time regarding this case. Being that my ideas/opinions are strongly reflected in those of JTF, I have felt no need to post- as I didnt have a user name. Upon much deep thought surrounding the cameras at the hotel where JY "stayed" (ha), I cant find an explanation for one thing. If someone left out of the door that JY re-entered in, thus creating an opportunity for him to enter without a key card, wouldn't this person have been seen on the camera BEFORE JY pushed it towards the ceiling on his way in? The 15 seconds before JY walked in should have shown someone walking out. Is this where the rapid picture film possibly missed someone exiting?

Don't know the answer to that one, but I remember when the night clerk, or what ever his title was, the younger fella. He testified that he discovered the rock in the door, the camera unplugged, & then the camera pushed up towards the ceiling. Can't recall his exact words, but something to the effect of it having been a scary night. All these circumstances occuring on his shift that night. Never before, and not since, just that particular night. Much like Gracie, remembering the guy who cursed at her. Why do people in the south use *curse*? Up north we used to say 'he swore at me'. I never really recall hearing 'cursed at me' until moving south? Just curious on that last bit. :fence:

 

[ncsu95]

hdear: That never even occurred to me! Interesting..... I think I feel better now with him getting Life!
Thanks for responding!

And it was a very serious answer. If you ever watch any of the prison shows, especially maximum security, races don't generally mix. Whites stay with whites, blacks stay with blacks, latinos stay with latinos, etc. It's just the way it is.

 

[No Coincidence]

Don't know the answer to that one, but I remember when the night clerk, or what ever his title was, the younger fella. He testified that he discovered the rock in the door, the camera unplugged, & then the camera pushed up towards the ceiling. Can't recall his exact words, but something to the effect of it having been a scary night. All these circumstances occuring on his shift that night. Never before, and not since, just that particular night. Much like Gracie, remembering the guy who cursed at her. Why do people in the south use *curse*? Up north we used to say 'he swore at me'. I never really recall hearing 'cursed at me' until moving south? Just curious on that last bit. :fence:

He testified that he noticed around 3am that the camera was off. He then told the maintenance man about the occurrence when he came into work at 5:50am (I think that was the time I read, but it was significantly later), and the man fixed the camera and shut the door. At 6:15 the camera was lifted again, which would have been right around the time JY was arriving back. There truthfully is no other reasonable explanation for the camera flipping up.

I was just wondering how JY got back in without a key card, and as you all discussed he obviously must have waited until someone walked out- which sparked my interest in who this person might be. The camera would have had to catch this person leaving, thus presenting the opportunity for JY to re enter without a key card, and JY moved the camera on the way IN.

 

[Just the Fax]

We may have the answer to how he reentered the west exit at 6:15AM
Elmer stated the west exit door had a malfunctioning card reader and the door would remain unlocked. He was unsure if the door was broken on 11-3-06....He did tell WCSO this during his interview.


23.00 on video

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/video/9709926/#/vid9709926

 

[borndem]

I heard it right away, but that may be because my little girl and C. are only a couple of months difference in age and honestly and I was paying more attention to what she was saying while the phone was ringing. I just assumed it was in the transcript the jury was given. Incorrect?

I heard it the first time, too, lib's mom -- I remember replaying it immedieately and having to wait what seemed so-o-o long into the recording to hear it again to be sure...That's when I started believing that Daddy Did It... and I still believe it.

And your question about the transcript is a good one... my guess is it will probably read "Daddy ~inaudible~." But that should be enuff. I HOPE that at lease "Daddy.." is in there. Sure would like to know, huh?