State vs Jason Lynn Young 6-15-11

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And does so without regret or emotion. He can be extremely steely and doesn't like cold-blooded killers. I've always liked Judge Stephens. You know he had a twin brother, also a judge but I believe he's retired now. Isn't it Ronald Stephens? Donald and Ronald?

Yes you're right! J.G. choked up while sentencing BC to LWOP because he's a more emotional person (thus prone to more outbursts, anger, and display of his inner feelings). J.S? Not so much. He'll not blink an eye while throwing someone in state prison with LWOP. He's imposed the DP many times. Don't know if JG ever has. JS is a 'law 'n order' judge. L.E. loves him. ADAs respect him. He is respected and feared in the right proportion.
 
I guess the clump of hair all came from Michelle.

Yes, which is good for the case. But how horrific that she must have been pulled from the bed by her hair...hard enough to pull the hair out.
 
Of course they're now bringing up the cigarett butts. Unknown DNA.

Now it's the pros job to submit enough evidence, circumstantial only it seems, to convince this jury that JY had the opportunity to 'stage' the cigarett butts from somewhere else, ie from outside the door he snuck out from the hotel (motel?). IIRCC, that area was used for 'smoke breaks.'

JMHO
fran
 
Blood on his sneaker, taken after he had returned to Brevard. Guess some of those basketball games with the Brevard mountain boys got a bit rough now and then.
 
Of course they're now bringing up the cigarett butts. Unknown DNA.

Now it's the pros job to submit enough evidence, circumstantial only it seems, to convince this jury that JY had the opportunity to 'stage' the cigarett butts from somewhere else, ie from outside the door he snuck out from the hotel (motel?). IIRCC, that area was used for 'smoke breaks.'

JMHO
fran

I heard that as well, a butt can outside the door JY alledgedly went out of from the hotel.

Can't you just envision two murderers hanging out in the Young garage taking a smoke break ?
 
Yep, RC, they probably did get rough. Well, there will be some explaining on today's testimony.
 
Cig butts inside of house? Were any ashes found? Had someone smoked a cig inside of the house? I think the answer is no.

I believe those butts were planted by JLY.
 
We'll have to agree to disagree. IMO, MOO, *most* attorney's who defend murderers are sleezy IMO. Think about it. The majority of those arrested, charged and tried of crimes are guilty of those crimes. The nature of the job of a defense attorney, is to find some way, ANY way, to get their client OFF. They do it daily. Could you personally sit beside somebody like JLY on a daily basis, attempting to find a way to get them *off*? Me, I couldn't do it. I couldn't separate myself from a particularly heinious crime, and try to get the person off that far more likely than not, did that crime. Look at how *most* people still to this day, every time they see O.J. Simpson, remember that Nicole Brown's neck was sliced so badly she was nearly decapitated. John Couey, the child rapist and killer, somebody worked hard to try to get him off, same with Joseph Duncan, the rapist and killer of Dylan Groene, and most of his entire family. Somebody worked hard to get him bail, allowing him to be *out* to be able to kill the Groene family, kidnap their two youngest children, and rape and torture those children. Me, I just couldn't live with myself, knowing 'hey, I got that guy out on bond for another incident of child sexual abuse, so he could fulfill his lifetime dream of the groene crimes.' Yeah, it's a job, and somebody's gotta do it, but I think those *somebodies* are sleezy. JMO MOO

Howard Kurtz fully believes Brad Cooper is innocent (along with a a lot of other people). A defense attorney's job isn't necessarily to get their client off...it's to make sure their client has a fair trial. I would say that was especially the case where attorneys are assigned to a case for an indigent client.
 
Yep, RC, they probably did get rough. Well, there will be some explaining on today's testimony.

They did try to rough up the NCWanted cameraman when they went to Brevard :D Seriously. I suspect here comes some of the explaining perhaps.
 
GL, some defense attorneys are sleezy, but others defend their client without being sleezy. IMO. I have seen both. Because Kurtz offered a vigorous defense does not mean he is sleezy. I have seen prosecutors who were equally vigorous and bordering on sleezy. I do admire your ethics though, but lumping all defense attorneys as sleezy is as bad as saying all prosecutors are highly ethical.


I thought Kurtz showed respect to every single witness on both sides. I can't say the same for the prosecution team.
 
Of course they're now bringing up the cigarett butts. Unknown DNA.

Now it's the pros job to submit enough evidence, circumstantial only it seems, to convince this jury that JY had the opportunity to 'stage' the cigarett butts from somewhere else, ie from outside the door he snuck out from the hotel (motel?). IIRCC, that area was used for 'smoke breaks.'

JMHO
fran


Given that they weren't found until after the house was released, it could have been staged at any point in time...not necessarily the night of the murder.
 
They did try to rough up the NCWanted cameraman when they went to Brevard :D Seriously. I suspect here comes some of the explaining perhaps.

I hadn't heard this. Or was this the incident just before he was arrested, at the gym playing basketball?

tia,
fran
 
ATTENTION!

Could we please leave the discussion of the Cooper attorney for that forum.

Please stay on topic.

Thank you,
fran
 
I hadn't heard this. Or was this the incident just before he was arrested, at the gym playing basketball?

tia,
fran

Can't remember the time frame but it was the "you came here for that " incident, at the gym. Think that was quite a while before he was arrested though.
 
Howard Kurtz fully believes Brad Cooper is innocent (along with a a lot of other people). A defense attorney's job isn't necessarily to get their client off...it's to make sure their client has a fair trial. I would say that was especially the case where attorneys are assigned to a case for an indigent client.

Okay, I'm not saying this in a snotty way or anything, just a normal, everyday, way of speaking back and forth to my friends. Do you really believe that Kurtz 'fully believes Brad is innocent'? Me? Not so much. :fence: Truly. I think Kurtz believes his client is *innocent* in the same way David Rudolph *believed* Rae Carruth was 'innocent'. The same way Johnny Cocharan *believed* O.J. was 'innocent', and the same way Mark Garragos *believed* scott peterson was '100% innocent' of the murder of Laci. MOO MOO But very truly MOO :seeya:
 
Uh-roh!

Someone else's dna on the hose?

ETA, the jewelry box too! Not JY nor MY. :eek:

Did someone keep track of what he just said? :confused:

PS......phew! They have a written report of what he just said. The jury better request Exhibit 75 for review! LOL, I sure would! :crazy:
 
Okay, I'm not saying this in a snotty way or anything, just a normal, everyday, way of speaking back and forth to my friends. Do you really believe that Kurtz 'fully believes Brad is innocent'? Me? Not so much. :fence: Truly. I think Kurtz believes his client is *innocent* in the same way David Rudolph *believed* Rae Carruth was 'innocent'. The same way Johnny Cocharan *believed* O.J. was 'innocent', and the same way Mark Garragos *believed* scott peterson was '100% innocent' of the murder of Laci. MOO MOO But very truly MOO :seeya:



Yes. Now I'll quit talking about the BC trial in this forum.
 
Wake County sure did spend a lot of money on DNA testing in this case.

7.1 is the sheetrock with the print. Michelle was excluded. Sorry only hearing bits and pieces of this so not catching who was id'd if anyone. Will have to catch it again later.
 
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