State vs Jason Lynn Young 6-21-11

[fran]

IMHO, I THINK the last witness will be discredited by the pros in their closing. She was NOT sure what Friday it was. Just that it was Friday.

IF I were on the jury, I wouldn't think her testimony is relevant. There are TOO MANY things pointing towards guilt.

JMHO
fran

 

[Prancy]

The 2 witness timelines do not match.

NYT delivery gal sees a light colored SUV somewhere around 3:30am, possibly as early as 3am.

Birchleaf resident mail carrier as her encounter with someone on a Friday at 5:30am.

The newspaper carrier said she went by between 3:00 and 3:30 a.m. She saw two vehicles parked parallel to the house. An SUV and van. Not sure if they were in the yard or beside the road in front of the house. Lights inside and outside of house were on.

The postal worker said she came by between 5:00-5:30 a.m. and saw two vehicles. One was parked and one was coming out face front out of the driveway. LIghts on in and outside of house.

IMO these accounts support each other. It indicates the people driving the cars were there from 3:00-5:00 or 5:30. I don't think that if JY was one of those people, he could have made it back to VA in the time frame the state claims.

I'm really shocked. This is something that I'm hoping the state has a good explanation for other than the ladies are mistaken. I don't think they are.

Is it possible JY left earlier and left 2 other people do the clean up? I don't think there was any evidence of any theory other than JY doing it all.

 

[raisincharlie]

Cody, the vehicle she described was so different from JY's there is no way it could have been JY's SUV. The timing is way off - Raleigh to Hillsville is 2 hours 40 minutes. At best he could have been back in Hillsville at 810 am. We do know the phone calls begining at 740 am were from a location even further away than Hillsville according to the towers (to the northwest of Hillsville).

 

[ncsu95]

Hard to believe this is wrapping up within 2 weeks. Very efficient use of time by all parties in this trial. I was wondering why the judge was allowing another witness at 12:50 today since it was so close to lunch. Yet the witness was completely done by 1:03. It's decisions like this that have really made a difference in this trial with regards to use of the courts time. I applaud the judge :clap:

 

[fran]

I don't see a hired hit. I think J did it himself. He even posed for the camera. Wonder where his murder costume is?

JMHO,
fran

 

[ncsu95]

The newspaper carrier said she went by between 3:00 and 3:30 a.m. She saw two vehicles parked parallel to the house. An SUV and van. Not sure if they were in the yard or beside the road in front of the house. Lights inside and outside of house were on.

The postal worker said she came by between 5:00-5:30 a.m. and saw two vehicles. One was parked and one was coming out face front out of the driveway. LIghts on in and outside of house.

IMO these accounts support each other. It indicates the people driving the cars were there from 3:00-5:00 or 5:30. I don't think that if JY was one of those people, he could have made it back to VA in the time frame the state claims.

I'm really shocked. This is something that I'm hoping the state has a good explanation for other than the ladies are mistaken. I don't think they are.

Is it possible JY left earlier and left 2 other people do the clean up? I don't think there was any evidence of any theory other than JY doing it all.

That is not correct. She saw a light colored suv in the driveway. And she saw a van across the street and said she wasn't sure if the van was with this house or another.

 

[Wyn]

There are a surprising number of Faye Hensley's in NC.

The one that shows up living in Raleigh/Fuquay-Varina is 85 years old.

 

[gracielee]

To other trial watchers, doesn't this introduction of evidence at the end of pros. & defense seem strange? I can't recall another trial where all the evidence that was *introduced* formally in either the states case or the defense case, was actually viewed in detail by the jury prior to the case proceeding? Am I simply forgetting this part of the trial? I know the evidence is all formally introduced, but I thought *usually* it's just a legal procedure, and the jury doesn't examine it until the retire to deliberate?

 

[gracielee]

Where did JY go ? He aint sitting in his chair.

He's back, never mind.

Perhaps mommy had to take him potty?

:floorlaugh:

:great:

:rocker:

 

[Prancy]

That is not correct. She saw a light colored suv in the driveway. And she saw a van across the street and said she wasn't sure if the van was with this house or another.

That may be. I was going from info from my memory. Yours is probably better. I would suggest that if the van matched any other neighbor then the state would have found it and explained whose it was and why it was there. Who knows, maybe the state will do that on rebuttal. We'll see. I hope they do something, because I was 100% sure of guilt this morning.....now....Not so much. It's rather unsettling.

 

[cody100]

Cody, the vehicle she described was so different from JY's there is no way it could have been JY's SUV. The timing is way off - Raleigh to Hillsville is 2 hours 40 minutes. At best he could have been back in Hillsville at 810 am. We do know the phone calls begining at 740 am were from a location even further away than Hillsville according to the towers (to the northwest of Hillsville).

Timing is off if JY did it. I guess this shows why these testimonies are so important to this case.

 

[Madeleine74]

I guess it comes down to: you either believe this witness saw some caucasian male and another person, assumed to be a female, coming out of the Young driveway around 5:30am on the Fri morning MY was murdered or you think this witness was mistaken as to the date she saw this.

It doesn't take away from the other evidence though:

- the size 12 HP Orbital shoes that are missing, proved to be purchased by JLY 1 yr before the murder, and matching one of the shoe prints in the house.

- missing clothes seen on H.I. video

- the computer searches on 3 different websites on how to knock someone out, trauma of a head knockout, etc.

- the rock in the door & camera moved, as well as camera unplugged at the H.I.

- JLY's statements that he was 'done' with the marriage

- JLY's statement to M.F. that divorce from MY would be the more difficult scenario

- JLY's statement to L.F. that he would have to "take a hit on the house," said within 24 hrs of the murder

- JLY never cooperating with the investigation, even with a high powered attorney at his side.

- JLY handing over custody of his beloved daughter just to avoid having to give a deposition.

- JLY affairs, claiming he was in-love with MM

- the crime scene, little C being drugged with adult meds from JLY pharma stash, little C's feet washed

- overkill of victim/rage

- Coach bags not purchased, with JLY fingerprint on the back, and his calls to MF to get her to the house

- Little C's audible on 911 call (that many of us heard), "Daddy did it"

 

[gracielee]

And possibly as late as 4:00am.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility to conclude that the car was there at 3:30 and there at 5:30. Particularly if there was some cleaning, drugging of a child, and cleaning themselves off at the hose out back. Honestly, it makes it look more like a hired job to me.

I find it hard to contemplate even someone like Jason Young would allow a hired team to killers to drug his child. And why would Cas need to be drugged anyway? To help her forget 'daddy did it?'

 

[cody100]

That may be. I was going from info from my memory. Yours is probably better. I would suggest that if the van matched any other neighbor then the state would have found it and explained whose it was and why it was there. Who knows, maybe the state will do that on rebuttal. We'll see. I hope they do something, because I was 100% sure of guilt this morning.....now....Not so much. It's rather unsettling.

Actually I think both you and ncsu are correct. She said they were both parked parallel to the house. However, on questioning she said light colored SUV might have been parked in the driveway. I believe I am correct.

 

[borndem]

The 2 witness timelines do not match.

NYT delivery gal sees a light colored SUV somewhere around 3:30am, possibly as early as 3am.

Birchleaf resident mail carrier as her encounter with someone on a Friday at 5:30am.

The ADAs need to say the above in their closing -- they have got to refute this little seed of reasonable doubt. They absolutely must not leave this one hangin' in the air. :twocents:

Mad - You get my AttaWoman Award today!

 

[raisincharlie]

Timing is off if JY did it. I guess this shows why these testimonies are so important to this case.

Or why they can be so misleading...

 

[fran]

I think the one statement by J's friend in a previous testimony saying J was AFRAID if he divorced M she'd move back to NY and he'd never get to see his little girl.

When I heard that I thought 'MOTIVE!'

JMHO
fran

PS.....lest we also not forget the insurance policy. Wasn't it a mil? He didn't apply for it because, can't recall exact words but something like, 'it wouldn't look good.'

Or, is that another case? :waitasec:

 

[fran]

Can the State call rebuttal witnesses still?

fran

 

[ncsu95]

Chad should not be showing a discussion between JY and his lawyers.

 

[Madeleine74]

Can the State call rebuttal witnesses still?

fran

If they have them, yes.