State wants answers from Baez

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miimaa said:
Can the evidence Jose wanted excluded now definitely be included since he did not meet the deadline nor present the evidence necessary to exclude it? [what did I say?]

Is what he wanted excluded now included because he can't prove it should be excluded? [still sounds funny...]

Is Jose screwed?
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I hope so...
Here is the exact wording of JBP Orders for the Feb 17 filing.

http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26778718/de...tm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=casey+updates

"5. Frye Hearings: The motions addressing Frye issues

pertaining to scientific evidence shall be held on March 23, 24 and 25,

2011. The Court will provide a schedule to counsel as to the order in

which each motion will be heard. By February 17, 2011 at 4:00 pm,

defense counsel shall submit to the Court and State in writing, the specific

issues that will be objected to in accordance with Frye, including, but

not limited to, those objections previously addressed in the motions."

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Okay what's so confusing about the above? I don't see it..
 
ZsaZsa said:
I see no problem with JA going in for the kill at every opportunity, with this moron. He is representing Caylee, who was viciously murdered and dumped in a swamp, not playing a game of one-upmanship with the idiot Baez. If Baez cannot follow a schedule, is too lazy or incompetent to put a note on a Calendar for every date that something is due he deserves all he gets.
If JA's reaction is not typical of how SA's would handle this given the same circumstances, then it's time it was.
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ITA ZsaZsa and go one further, the State represents the People of the State of Florida....................they have an obligation to the taxpayers to make sure all criminals are prosecuted - if that means JB at some point, so be it.
 
Intermezzo said:
Okay what's so confusing about the above? I don't see it..
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Doesn't seem confusing at all. Jose's problem is that just because HE objects to the evidence, the court is asking for valid and specific REASONS as to WHY and Jose apparently can't provide the necessary information as to the WHY.
 
What made me chuckle is that Baez says CM is even more confused than him, so somehow that's supposed to make it OK.
The words Dumb and Dumber come to mind...
 
I want to see some emergancy court hearings next week....
 
ZsaZsa said:
What made me chuckle is that Baez says CM is even more confused than him, so somehow that's supposed to make it OK.
The words Dumb and Dumber come to mind...
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I can just see JP at the next hearing.:banghead:
 
ZsaZsa said:
What made me chuckle is that Baez says CM is even more confused than him, so somehow that's supposed to make it OK.
The words Dumb and Dumber come to mind...
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I won't dive in to any theory on this thread.....but isn't it interesting that JB paints the DP qualified counsel....as being even more befuddled than himself????

Just saying.....
 
miimaa said:
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Doesn't seem confusing at all. Jose's problem is that just because HE objects to the evidence, the court is asking for valid and specific REASONS as to WHY and Jose apparently can't provide the necessary information as to the WHY.
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BBM
Sure he can...........it makes his client look guilty.
 
Even if he did get this tossed, how would he deal with her written statement to LE? Dropping off Caylee between 9:00 and 1:00, going to work, coming back, conducting her own investigation, etc... He has so many hurdles. I really cannot understand why he didn't plea this out. The weight of the evidence is against her and even if he believed her to be innocent, how can he overcome - in court - everything against her? She has nothing in her favor. No alibi, no pleading for the return of Caylee, etc.
 
miimaa said:
Even if he did get this tossed, how would he deal with her written statement to LE? Dropping off Caylee between 9:00 and 1:00, going to work, coming back, conducting her own investigation, etc... He has so many hurdles. I really cannot understand why he didn't plea this out. The weight of the evidence is against her and even if he believed her to be innocent, how can he overcome - in court - everything against her? She has nothing in her favor. No alibi, no pleading for the return of Caylee, etc.
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KC refused to plea it out. It is up to his client. Now there is no offer.
 
miimaa said:
Can the evidence Jose wanted excluded now definitely be included since he did not meet the deadline nor present the evidence necessary to exclude it? [what did I say?]

Is what he wanted excluded now included because he can't prove it should be excluded? [still sounds funny...]

Is Jose screwed?
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In more ways than the Kama Sutra.
 
Isnt it about time there was another doc dump? I thought the state released more discovery about a week ago. will we be seeing that, or is there something defense doesnt want us seeing.
 
I'm so expecting, at this point, for Baez to just say "it needs to be excluded because I said so, that's why." That's about all he's got anyway.
 
Intermezzo said:
I hope so...
Here is the exact wording of JBP Orders for the Feb 17 filing.

http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26778718/de...tm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=casey+updates

"5. Frye Hearings: The motions addressing Frye issues

pertaining to scientific evidence shall be held on March 23, 24 and 25,

2011. The Court will provide a schedule to counsel as to the order in

which each motion will be heard. By February 17, 2011 at 4:00 pm,

defense counsel shall submit to the Court and State in writing, the specific

issues that will be objected to in accordance with Frye, including, but

not limited to, those objections previously addressed in the motions."

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Okay what's so confusing about the above? I don't see it..
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It's not confusing at all, and JB no doubt did this purposefully-The problem I foresee is that this may not rise to the level of contempt. For that, I believe Mr. Ashton should have provided a long narrative (yes, again and again each time) that goes back to the HHJS days.
Though we ALL know the big picture here, I am certain HHJP will take up these issues on a motion by motion basis-Particularly because he has had no issues in the past with CM, and that may be the clencher here.
My concern is that Mr. Ashton will appear to be a tattle-tale if he submits motions everytime JB does something stupid, the motions only being specific to that one action. HHJP seems to want to treat JB like the dopey little brother that the state should have more patience with. That is why I believe that Mr. Ashton really should have added a lot more bulk to this motion. Our beliefs here are not HHJP's beliefs, and he is far more patient than I am.
I think that if HHJP has to compare this idiocy to the threshold of contempt, JB will not quite reach the mark. More than one attorney here has indicated as much.
 
When was the deadline for admitting the Ahhh moment into evidence? :)
 
strawberry said:
About 2 years and 7 months ago!
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Did you guys go Ahhhhhhhh without me? I want a link to the ahhhhh. I'll trade you for several links to the arrrrgh lol!
 
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