Stephen Singular photography theory

[Seeker]

No they had a turkey dinner. It's in one of the depo's.
It's also in one of the depo's that Priscilla had saved some cracked crab (presumably leftovers) just for JonBenet.

Here is what Patsy said in her 1997 interview with the BPD
Date of Interview: April 30, 1997 (perhaps her memory of what they actually had for dinner would have been better if the Ramsey's hadn't stalled off the BPD for 4 months)

TT: Okay. So give me kind of a step by step, get to the Whites 5:30, 6:00, 6:30 whatever, what time did you have dinner that night? What did you do before dinner after dinner?
PR: Well, we had um, I think we had cocktails, kind of, she had some cracked crab left over from their Christmas eve dinner and we sampled some of that and I remember she kind of, for some reason, made a little plate for JonBenet or I remember her making a special plate for JonBenet for some reason so she would have some crab. . .TT: Okay.
PR: . . .cause my kids like seafood and uh, we nibble on that and I uh, we had dinner and I can’t remember what we had.
TT: Okay. Was it like a buffet, sit down, what kind of dinner was it?
PR: I just, I just, I don’t know. I can’t remember.

 

[capps]

Patsy can't remember what she had to eat on the 25th ..... that's original.

She can't remember if they ate lunch.
She can't remember if they had
pineapple in the house.
She can't remember what they ate on the 25th.
She can't remember if JB's bedroom door was ajar or closed.

And there are a plethora of other "I don't remembers" To simple questions!

Was that woman in a coma or what?

This is what is frustrating to me ....
Why oh why didn't they say "Ms. Ramsey's you have given us nothing but I don't remembers,and evasive answers on EVERYTHING! We will give you a few minutes here,to think back at some of these questions so you can give more definitive answers.

Man ... I wish I was questioning her!

 

[Seeker]

BC posted this earlier this year so I wonder now why he states they had cracked crab as if it was their primary meal...or at least it looks like that. I bet it's says "turkey" for dinner that night in FW's depo...

LOU SMIT: "I would like to just know, perhaps, what you ate or whether the children ate, or if it was different, or how things were set up."

JOHN RAMSEY : "Well, all I can specifically remember was the cracked crab. I think they had a turkey dinner. But I think she made, she always makes these little hot dogs with barbecue sauce that the kids love."

Sampling a little leftover cracked crab is a far cry from what they actually ate for dinner that night.

 

[K777angel]

You may be right although I wouldn't characterize calling an outfit (that had been worn for maybe 5 hours at a dinner party ) "dirty old smelly clothes" as an "objective" statement.

This was a woman about whom ST uses the word "slovenly" when he describes how LHP characterized her. That she cared what the public rooms looked like but didn't bother with the dust and debris that would only be seen by family. Melinda et al hadn't seen her in the outfit from the night before. It was a new outfit to them. It sounds like something good for travel (velvet jeans, sweater, jacket). I see no problem with wearing it again having only worn it briefly the day before. I probably would have done the same and I also seldom leave the house without makeup on AND I have a closet jam-packed with nice clothes to choose from.

As someone said earlier this week - we make judgements based on our own experiences. Obviously yours are different from mine.

I AM basing my judgement on my own experiences. I too do not go out without my makeup. And I like to be in fresh clothes - especially on holidays and special occasions.
Patsy, according to their book, spent a good deal of time on Christmas day preparing not only for their trip to Charlevoix the next morning and the Disney cruise - but she was even preparing for JonBenet's next pagaent trip that was coming up shortly after.
She made a point to say she wanted to "make a good impression" the next day for Melinda's fiance Stewart whom they were meeting up with on the way to Michigan. It just doesn't fit for her to put on dirty clothes.
I don't care what you say - spending several hours in an outfit DOES make them dirty. Sweat and natural body oils, wrinkles in the clothing - not something you'd think to wear to make a "good impression". Especially since she had much more to choose from.
With all the other circumstances and facts of this case, this one is just one more that is suspicious.

By the way - there are many people who have dirty, messy homes but are neat as a pin themselves and take great care to be well-groomed.
Patsy had maids to clean her house - but it was up to HER to do her make-up, dressing and hair each day.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Let's not make a mountain out of a molehill here. I only mentioned the crab as a possible reason one might want to change his/her clothes the next day. If they didn't eat crab, they didn't eat crab. I still think that someone who cares enough to put on makeup at 5:30am would care enough to change their clothes, dirty or not...

 

[tipper]

Patsy can't remember what she had to eat on the 25th ..... that's original.

She can't remember if they ate lunch.
She can't remember if they had
pineapple in the house.
She can't remember what they ate on the 25th.
She can't remember if JB's bedroom door was ajar or closed.

And there are a plethora of other "I don't remembers" To simple questions!

Was that woman in a coma or what?

This is what is frustrating to me ....
Why oh why didn't they say "Ms. Ramsey's you have given us nothing but I don't remembers,and evasive answers on EVERYTHING! We will give you a few minutes here,to think back at some of these questions so you can give more definitive answers.

Man ... I wish I was questioning her!

Not a coma but 2 different anti-depressants. Both are known to cause memory problems.

 

[GuruJosh]

I can tell you that diazepam ("valium"), by itself, tends to have a profound effect on memory (for the worse)

You can eat dinner, and 3 hours later not remember what you ate.

Antidepressants like fluoxetine ("prozac"), as opposed to the mild tranquillizers, don't generally cause any memory loss, though. That's the reason people use them - they're safe! (No, i don't want to get into a debate about the safety of SSRI antidepressants with anyone. They're safe, period.)

It's the "mild" psychic tranquillizers that stop the writing of short-term events to the brain. And "strong" psychic tranqs, like chlorpromazine, thorazine etc. have such immense effects on memory (and on the integrity of the ego) that they are only reserved for the schizophrenic or people with acute psychotic episodes, as results of bad psychedelic drug trips, on mescaline for instance.

Valium, Xanax, serapax, clonazepam (anything ending in '-pam', basically) are benzos. As an example, imagine swallowing xanax pills to the point where you feel mildly "drunk". Although subjectively the "drunkenness" is similar to that of alcohol (without the euphoria), your MEMORY of events will suffer a profound turn for the worse - whether you are aware of it subjectively or not. Biopsychiatric research has proved this as an objective fact. Sometimes people say "I'm used to benzo's now. They don't affect my memory any more." That's SUBJECTIVE. The objective research proves otherwise.

Now, with regard to Patsy's apparent amnesia about the events of the 25th, it needs to be remembered that benzodiazepines cause NO (zero!) loss of recollection regarding events experienced while SOBER. They only affect the writing of new memories while under the influence.

So benzodiazepines could not have caused Patsy's amnesia about the night of the 25th. She was not on benzodiazepine tranquillizers that night; therefore memories continued to be written the same as always.

That being said, I must say that Patsy's NON-admission of guilt, or involvement, in the death of JB, despite her heavily medicated state on the 26th (if true...! so much BS abounds in the literature of this case...), is in my mind a solid piece of evidence for her INNOCENCE.

So many other things point the other way, of course!

And that's what makes this case so interesting. Nothing makes sense, the more you think about it.

Why, the more I think about it, the more I think I might need to pop a xanax!

 

[tipper]

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/g/glenmullen-prozac.html

Most patients who complain of memory problems have much more subtle difficulties. Jonathan was in his late twenties and a medical student when I started him on Prozac because he was severely depressed. He responded well to the drug and within a month was no longer depressed.

A short while later, however, Jonathan developed subtle but distinct memory problems. "I have trouble finding the word for something, like a person's name," he said. "I know that I know the name, but I can't retrieve it. I can't bring it up from my memory. Or someone's phone number. A close friend whose phone number I have always known, yet suddenly I can't recall it. This is definitely new. I never had these kinds of problems before. People have always commented that my memory was like a steel trap. It's just not the same anymore."

Yet another difficulty was that Jonathan would forget the "context" in which he learned something: "I've always remembered things in a lot of detail. Now I remember some things without any context. I might remember that a good friend and his wife have separated and are getting a divorce. But I can't remember when I learned it, who told me, where we were at the time, and what else we were talking about. I might have learned it just a few days before, but for the life of me, I can't recall the context."

Being a student whose performance depended on his memory, Jonathan was disturbed by this side effect. He talked to a friend who experienced the same problem on Prozac. Said Jonathan, "If someone told me, 'You've lost five miles an hour on your fast ball,' I'd say: 'Well, it doesn't matter. I don't pitch anymore.' But I feel like I've lost five miles an hour of my mind, and that's a serious problem."

His memory problems motivated Jonathan to get off Prozac even faster than we originally planned. Within a month of stopping the drug, his memory was back to normal.

Some patients have memory problems because of their depression. But Sharon was on Zoloft because of nail-biting, and Jonathan's difficulties started after he was no longer feeling depressed on Prozac.

Memory problems can be more dramatic in the elderly. Carl was a seventy-three-year-old man whom I put on 20 milligrams a day of Prozac for depression. Carl was in excellent physical health. Indeed, he still worked three days a week in the family business, a jewelry manufacturing company, which two of his sons now ran. He worked in the customer service office, overseeing the processing of orders.

Three weeks after starting Prozac, Carl reported, "I'm feeling less depressed but I'm having severe trouble with my memory." When I asked Carl to describe an example, he responded, "At work last week I couldn't close out the new orders. It's a procedure I've done weekly for years. You have to know how to categorize and break down the different types of orders so all the totals come out accurately. I just stared at the blank pages and didn't know what to do. I was so embarrassed I actually considered fudging the report, hoping someone would catch the problem and fix it. But I realized that if it wasn't picked up, it could lead to much worse difficulties. So I went quietly to one of my sons and explained I couldn't remember how to do this task. We were both worried I'd had a stroke or something until we thought of the drug." When he went off Prozac, Carl's memory problems cleared.

In still another example, Lauren Slater, a teacher of creative writing and a practicing psychologist in Boston, says in her 1998 memoir Prozac Diary, "I am fearful of the as-yet-undiscovered side effects....Lately I have become especially concerned about Prozac and memory. I used to be able to read a paragraph and recite back its phrases in near-perfect order. I never before needed an appointment book....I am not so old [in her mid-thirties] that I should frequently forget the names of towns I've lived in, streets I've roamed, dishes I have always savored. People I have loved. Gaps in my cognition are appearing, places where the denim is worn so thin the skin shows through."

Major tranquilizers have long been suspected of causing cognitive deficits and impairment in intellectual functioning. These concerns surfaced only after the drugs had been on the market for decades and their use had become limited to schizophrenics. Unfortunately, the concerns have not been adequately investigated and we are not equipped to recognize the signs of these drug effects.

Silent Brain Damage

A final, serious concern with these neurological side effects is silent brain damage occurring in patients who do not develop overt symptoms. We still do not fully understand how tics reflecting permanent brain damage develop with major tranquilizers. But when one looks at the symptoms, the best model to explain them is that the appearance of noticeable tics is merely the final stage in a process of slow, progressive damage. Even in patients who do not develop tics, significant damage may have occurred. One sees this dramatically in patients restarted on a drug who quickly develop tics or other side effects not present during the previous course of the medication. Prior exposure left them with significant injury, which then predisposes them to rapid development of the side effects with just a little additional damage from the re-exposure.

 

[capps]

Tipper,

Thanks for the info ...

What your post is saying is true and understandable. But I don't think it wholly applies to JR and PR.

With most of the interviews I have read on the Ramsey's,the interviewer has asked "Are you on medication and if so do you think it can hinder this interview?" The Ramsey's answer was always either "no" or "maybe a little".

JR could tell you all about his plane and what they did to it to make it one of the fastest planes around,and PR could tell you all the dates of her trips to New York and what JB was wearing in her pageants and what songs she sang ... but they cannot give any straight answers to simple questions around the time before or after her murder ... to me that is selective memory.

Btw ... some of the memory loss described in your post,can also pertain to any pre/post menopause woman. lol.

 

[GuruJosh]

Sorry, I'm going to have to be a stickler and give my opinion on this. Fluoexetine does not cause memory loss - either "subtle" or overt. But anyway, like i mentioned, i am not going to get into an argument about this.

And I repeat, regarding Patsy:

"Now, with regard to Patsy's apparent amnesia about the events of the 25th, it needs to be remembered that benzodiazepines cause NO (zero!) loss of recollection regarding events experienced while SOBER. They only affect the writing of new memories while under the influence."

She was administered benzodiazepines (i.e. minor tranquilizers) the 26th. Thus, from the moment she received the effect from the first tranquilizer (approx 20 minutes, sometimes less or more, after ingestion), it is probable that her memories would not be spot on.

But since she was not taking minor tranquilizers (benzos) on the 25th, there could be no neurophysiological reason for her memory losses concerning that day. Like i said, memory loss associated with benzodiazepine minor tranqs happens during the course of intoxication (i.e. it applies only during the psychoactive effects of the tranquilizer)

To clarify even further: The brain is continually "writing" memories (perceptions), just like a computer. Some memories (short term memories), wind up in the equivalent of "RAM" - i.e. they do no persist. Some memories, long term ones, get "written to the ol' hard drive".

There are only 2 known causes of memory loss relating to the neurophysical inability to recall long-term memories. They are 1) Physical brain damage to the appropriate brain centre and 2) Brain cell senescence

A third, trauma-related amnesia, is an emotional/stress related disorder, where the brain subconsciously views the memory as too traumatizing for recollection, and prevents its recollection for the sake of the integrity of the person's psyche. However this applies not to "minor" things (like, did i shut the door), but to major things like "was i sexually abused".

Note that in the third case, stress-related amnesia, the memories are persistent - there is no true memory loss.

When you ingest a benzodiazepine, the part of the brain responsible for ADDING new memories gets lazy. Thus, and this is important, Benzos do not "cause" memory loss; they prevent the memories from being "written" in the first place.

Someone on benzodiazepines will generally not have trouble recalling any memories written to the brain while sober. So again, benzos do NOT "cause" memory loss.

However someone who has taken benzos during a specific time period will probably find that WHEN SOBER, i.e. afterwards, after the intoxication, they are unable to properly recall events during that timeframe (depending on the dose of benzos administered).

Hope that makes sense.

The fact that Patsy was on benzos on the 26th (and on subsequent days) will mean that her memory of those days (SUBSEQUENT to the 25th) will be vaguer than normal. But her memory of the 25th Dec 1996 was, and is, unaffected. She was not taking benzos on that date, therefore there was no neurochemical impairment resulting in her brain not writing new memories during that time.

It is possible that stress-related amnesia has occurred to some extent. I don't deny that. But the tangent of this thread was (briefly) about memory loss due to psychoactive drugs. Her stress-related amnesia, if any, is another subject.

 

[aussiesheila]

right, i mean i understand certain coverup motivations, especially if Burke was involved. What I mean is more along the lines of what Singular asks:

"Why was this more threatening than having your family members accused of the most terrible thing a person can do?"

i.e. why did John allow Patsy and Burke to be targeted by tabloid media, if indeed the killing was a result of a photoshoot-gone-wrong?

Which of the Rams would have had links to such a ring of "photographers"? What would be the motivation of the other one to participate in a coverup?

I am not saying i believe this theory! I am just interested in talking about it.

OK GuruJosh this is all a little confusing, you seem to have 5 questions here about someone else's theory about a photoshoot-gone-wrong.

Well first of all I don't think it's a good theory, not necessarily the photoshoot-gone-wrong bit but the taking-her-away-from-home bit and returning-her-as-a-corpse bit. This is mainly because I just cannot see why, if you had taken a child away from her home and killed her even if it was accidental, why you would return her to her home. Wouldn't the obvious thing be to take the body somewhere out in the wilds and dump it where it would be unlikely to be found?

I think you need to say why this theory appeals to you if you want to get people interested in discussing it.

I'm sorry it just doesn't seem to have any merit in it, not to me anyway. And I have to say that if anyone else had posted it I wouldn't be replying but since you are about the only person who has ever considered my theory and replied I thought I should do you the courtesy of replying to yours.

But there seem to be another 20 or so posts following on here (which I have not read yet) so it seems you have started something. And don't be put off by my negative response please!

 

[aussiesheila]

right, i mean i understand certain coverup motivations, especially if Burke was involved. What I mean is more along the lines of what Singular asks:

"Why was this more threatening than having your family members accused of the most terrible thing a person can do?"

i.e. why did John allow Patsy and Burke to be targeted by tabloid media, if indeed the killing was a result of a photoshoot-gone-wrong?

Which of the Rams would have had links to such a ring of "photographers"? What would be the motivation of the other one to participate in a coverup?

I am not saying i believe this theory! I am just interested in talking about it.

OK GuruJosh

I have already replied to this post of yours but that was BEFORE I got onto the site where he discusses his theory! He has virtually exactly the same background scenario that I have envisaged, although I hadn't thought of including photographers in my group of deviants which I should have.

I had never heard of Steven Singular, so glad you brought him on to the forum so to speak

I now understand what he meant by the "Why was this more threatening....? question.

I'm still not convinced of his scenario for Christmas night, but then I don't think he is either. A lot of the other people in that discussion did not think that John would have let JonBenet go out on that night and at that time of night, as his theory requires, and I agree with them.


But as far as all the other stuff he is putting forward, yes I think he is correct.

 

[ostealthone]

Memory is complicated and vast. Most people have their best recall on events that are important to them. To Patsy and John - who socialized a lot - I would imagine that the menus at their various functions were simply not memorable. JonBenet's pageants were memorable because they were important. JMO

 

[DeDee]

RBBM

........

Could have been a cover story or photoshoot ruse by someone to get her out of the house, in which case probably the parents would have been rather flattered, figured JonBenet would sleep on the way to Charlevoix and not be much bother. If it happened, the group may have returned to the house for the pineapple and the rest of a ceremony they may have been celectrating. There's no telling if the rumored FW party happened. His two guests from California were said to be members of a "Kali" group and strange old religions seemed rather popular in Boulder.

Someone years ago advised us that a Celtic sacrifice involved a last meal, of a favorite food. And that there's one or more religions in Boulder that combine parts of all religions. Who knows if maybe the group all came over to the Rs' about MIDNIGHT, although I don't remember if that was when such a thing would happen according to the poster at that time. Just a thought that might explain Patsy still having on the same outfit. She couldn't be inhospitable, after all.

The Whites' guests from California were said to be members of a Kali group, and I meant to look that up. I don't know if they're supposed to be a religion. Years ago we discussed the yearly chart of events Celtic and similar religions would "celebrate". Cutting down a Christmas tree, for instance, they'd talk to it and thank it. Below ground or below water body placement symbolized something. I forget what. There was something about a celtic ceremony outdoors in the woods, every year, and JR and some friends started taking a walk into the foothills. I don't remember how far they went, guess none of the book authors knew or told us.

I could not decide which portions of the introduction to quote and the portions to exclude so I copied and pasted this portion regarding the Goddess Kali. Also, I did not bold areas that garnered my attention, rather, each can take from this what, if anything, they want.

KALI

You are now holding this sacred scripture because the goddess has summoned you to be with her. And as you read on you shall notice a warm comfortable feeling overcome you, this is the power of the Goddess. She will entrance you with her love and possess your soul, yet she will lead you to happiness beyond your wildest dreams. To totally experience her power you must surrender to her, holding back nothing, even offering her your own life without reservations. Then you will truly experience the awesome magic of the Goddess Kali.

Sex is the most important element of life. It is the beginning and the end of all things in life. Through sex we experience the magic of the goddess and through sex the goddess possesses our souls. Therefore sex is a sacred ritual to worship the goddess kali, and should never be taken lightly. Sex is so sacred, each partner should be willing to die for each other literally or they are only disgracing the ritual of sex, this is why we have v.d., aids, herpes, ect. Because so many people treat sex as something to play with, when it is in reality a spiritual connection to the ultimate powers of the universe, the Goddess Kali.

Sex is our primary religious focus, however meditation, Buddhism, witchcraft, astrology, magic, and many other aspects of religions are incorporated into the worship of the Goddess Kali. Kali encompasses all religions, and she permeates all things in the universe, she is mother nature, she is god, she is ALA, her spirit guided the heart of Buddha, and many other noble men such as Confucius, and Gandhi, her name is recorded in Hinduism, she is all the cosmic powers of the universe, she is a woman, she loves men and women in a sexual way, Kali experiences sex with us, when we have sex, she is what makes conception of a new life come into being, and she is with us when we have sex purely for pleasure as well. Therefore we regard sex as a most honorable experience not shameful as religions of the past have made sex out to be.

Because we honor and respect sex so much, we are not ashamed to share our experiences with others who worship the goddess, because it has been proven that allowing others to witness sex brings many people happiness, just from witnessing the act, therefore if all participants are willing to share their experiences, then as long as the spectators respect the sacred ceremony and do nothing to interfere unless asked, sharing sexual experiences are considered an honorable thing. Spectators should remain silent and kneel as they watch with their hands in a praying position to symbolize their respect toward the Goddess. Some groups choose to be more informal and do not require spectators kneel as they watch the Goddess perform the ceremony, yet it is still important that the spectators remain silent to respect the ceremony, although cheering can be encouraged to raise the level of excitement during the ceremony, but the cheers should only come as a response to actions the Goddess takes toward the sacrifice. Or to acknowledge a sexy action which the Goddess makes in an effort to stimulate the audience. Worshippers should understand the more sincere you are toward the respect of the ceremony, the greater your blessings from the Goddess Kali. Spectators and Worshippers who assist or witness a sexual ceremony shall receive blessings from the goddess, for their sincere dedication to promoting faith in the Goddess KALI, and the sexual ceremony itself. Therefore if one is invited to attend a ceremony, they should overcome all obstacles, and make every effort to attend the ceremony of the friend who so caringly invited them. The more hardships they overcome in order to attend the ceremony, the greater their blessings they will receive from the Goddess KALI. A Sexual Ceremony is a very precious event, when someone invites you to share their most intimate moments with them, they are in effect telling you how important you are to them, to be worthy of witnessing such an event should be considered a great honor, and should be treated with the utmost respect when replying to such an invitation.

We the worshippers of Kali do many things to display our dedication to the Goddess Kali, one of the things we do that many other faiths do not, is we the worshippers of Kali are committed to keeping ourselves healthy and we exercise regularly to keep our bodies looking attractive to others. This is a form of dedication to the Goddess, as well as to our partners who will get excited from our bodies during sex. Many of the worshippers of Kali keep themselves looking like movie stars and models as a display of their deep respect to the Goddess and to their loved ones as well, because if you really love someone, you will do everything you can to enhance their happiness in their life, and if you know that if you look slim and sexy, it makes your lover more excited during sex, then becoming fat and ugly is a form of disrespect toward your loved ones as well as disrespecting the Goddess Kali, because she desires only the finest looking fruits of this earth, if you look like a soggy rotten apple with bags and wrinkles, and blobbing pounds, you are telling the Goddess and the people around you that you are weak, you are out of control, you do not care about yourself or anyone else, and this is not a healthy attitude, and is not good for you or for anyone else. So its kind of a rule in this religion that everyone must stay good looking, and if you are a little overweight, start working out now, because this religion has standards of living to live up to, because we share our bodies with each other in worship to the Goddess, and its hard for others to get enjoyment from watching a fat ugly slob making love. Yet a sexy body radiates respect and admiration from all angles, and is desired by everyone including the Goddess Kali.


The names of the other chapters in the book about Kali:

Forms of Worship
Spells and Magic
Bondage and Domination
Nurturing men's admiration
The mechanics of faith
Long Term Relationships
Destiny?
Cause & Effect
Human Sacrifice!
A Living Goddess
Anything is possible

"We who worship the Goddess Kali, are free to practice other religions at the same time we worship the goddess Kali, because Kali encompasses all life, all religions, therefore to worship another god is to worship Kali."

http://www.darksites.com/souls/vampires/kali/vol1.html

 

[midwest mama]

RBBM



I could not decide which portions of the introduction to quote and the portions to exclude so I copied and pasted this portion regarding the Goddess Kali. Also, I did not bold areas that garnered my attention, rather, each can take from this what, if anything, they want.

KALI

You are now holding this sacred scripture because the goddess has summoned you to be with her. And as you read on you shall notice a warm comfortable feeling overcome you, this is the power of the Goddess. She will entrance you with her love and possess your soul, yet she will lead you to happiness beyond your wildest dreams. To totally experience her power you must surrender to her, holding back nothing, even offering her your own life without reservations. Then you will truly experience the awesome magic of the Goddess Kali.

Sex is the most important element of life. It is the beginning and the end of all things in life. Through sex we experience the magic of the goddess and through sex the goddess possesses our souls. Therefore sex is a sacred ritual to worship the goddess kali, and should never be taken lightly. Sex is so sacred, each partner should be willing to die for each other literally or they are only disgracing the ritual of sex, this is why we have v.d., aids, herpes, ect. Because so many people treat sex as something to play with, when it is in reality a spiritual connection to the ultimate powers of the universe, the Goddess Kali.

Sex is our primary religious focus, however meditation, Buddhism, witchcraft, astrology, magic, and many other aspects of religions are incorporated into the worship of the Goddess Kali. Kali encompasses all religions, and she permeates all things in the universe, she is mother nature, she is god, she is ALA, her spirit guided the heart of Buddha, and many other noble men such as Confucius, and Gandhi, her name is recorded in Hinduism, she is all the cosmic powers of the universe, she is a woman, she loves men and women in a sexual way, Kali experiences sex with us, when we have sex, she is what makes conception of a new life come into being, and she is with us when we have sex purely for pleasure as well. Therefore we regard sex as a most honorable experience not shameful as religions of the past have made sex out to be.

Because we honor and respect sex so much, we are not ashamed to share our experiences with others who worship the goddess, because it has been proven that allowing others to witness sex brings many people happiness, just from witnessing the act, therefore if all participants are willing to share their experiences, then as long as the spectators respect the sacred ceremony and do nothing to interfere unless asked, sharing sexual experiences are considered an honorable thing. Spectators should remain silent and kneel as they watch with their hands in a praying position to symbolize their respect toward the Goddess. Some groups choose to be more informal and do not require spectators kneel as they watch the Goddess perform the ceremony, yet it is still important that the spectators remain silent to respect the ceremony, although cheering can be encouraged to raise the level of excitement during the ceremony, but the cheers should only come as a response to actions the Goddess takes toward the sacrifice. Or to acknowledge a sexy action which the Goddess makes in an effort to stimulate the audience. Worshippers should understand the more sincere you are toward the respect of the ceremony, the greater your blessings from the Goddess Kali. Spectators and Worshippers who assist or witness a sexual ceremony shall receive blessings from the goddess, for their sincere dedication to promoting faith in the Goddess KALI, and the sexual ceremony itself. Therefore if one is invited to attend a ceremony, they should overcome all obstacles, and make every effort to attend the ceremony of the friend who so caringly invited them. The more hardships they overcome in order to attend the ceremony, the greater their blessings they will receive from the Goddess KALI. A Sexual Ceremony is a very precious event, when someone invites you to share their most intimate moments with them, they are in effect telling you how important you are to them, to be worthy of witnessing such an event should be considered a great honor, and should be treated with the utmost respect when replying to such an invitation.

We the worshippers of Kali do many things to display our dedication to the Goddess Kali, one of the things we do that many other faiths do not, is we the worshippers of Kali are committed to keeping ourselves healthy and we exercise regularly to keep our bodies looking attractive to others. This is a form of dedication to the Goddess, as well as to our partners who will get excited from our bodies during sex. Many of the worshippers of Kali keep themselves looking like movie stars and models as a display of their deep respect to the Goddess and to their loved ones as well, because if you really love someone, you will do everything you can to enhance their happiness in their life, and if you know that if you look slim and sexy, it makes your lover more excited during sex, then becoming fat and ugly is a form of disrespect toward your loved ones as well as disrespecting the Goddess Kali, because she desires only the finest looking fruits of this earth, if you look like a soggy rotten apple with bags and wrinkles, and blobbing pounds, you are telling the Goddess and the people around you that you are weak, you are out of control, you do not care about yourself or anyone else, and this is not a healthy attitude, and is not good for you or for anyone else. So its kind of a rule in this religion that everyone must stay good looking, and if you are a little overweight, start working out now, because this religion has standards of living to live up to, because we share our bodies with each other in worship to the Goddess, and its hard for others to get enjoyment from watching a fat ugly slob making love. Yet a sexy body radiates respect and admiration from all angles, and is desired by everyone including the Goddess Kali.


The names of the other chapters in the book about Kali:

Forms of Worship
Spells and Magic
Bondage and Domination
Nurturing men's admiration
The mechanics of faith
Long Term Relationships
Destiny?
Cause & Effect
Human Sacrifice!
A Living Goddess
Anything is possible

"We who worship the Goddess Kali, are free to practice other religions at the same time we worship the goddess Kali, because Kali encompasses all life, all religions, therefore to worship another god is to worship Kali."

http://www.darksites.com/souls/vampires/kali/vol1.html

First BBM:
From "The Other Side of Suffering" by JR - He is relating his experience on a mission trip he did after his decision to enter a missionary training program at the Youth With a Mission Discipleship Training School in Hawaii. He is talking to a fellow unknown passenger on a commercial flight from Atlanta to New York.

"I mentioned the demonic atmosphere I had felt at the Yellamma Temple. I took a breath and began. Yellamma is the name of a female goddess worshipped by millions of poor Hindu Indians. Her followers take a vow to dedicate themselves, their wives, and often their female children to serve the Goddess Yellamma in hopes that they will be blessed in return. Young girls dedicated to Yellamma live a life of servitude for their whole lives, and often as prostitutes, as their act of service to the goddess. I was told there are over two hundred thousand of these temple women in India."

JR's choice for his mission ministry trip.

BBM #2: Patsy was very concerned about being too fat. And she told JB that McDonald's would make her fat.