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[EuTuCroquet?]

Hold up. Mica linked proof they were the only questions officially asked.

I saw that, too. They were the only two “officialy asked” questions. The two that mattered, in other words.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

It wasn't intended to be an investigative test. How could it be? She was asked the only two questions that addressed her credibility, after she wrote out what had happened to her for the purpose of talking the test. The confidence level result was that there was less than 1% possibility she was being untruthful about anything she said that had happened.

LE uses lie detector tests routinely. Either you think they are useful or reliable, or you don't. If you don't think they are unreliable, why does it matter how many questions are asked or if she was "emotional" when she took it? If you think they are reliable, and the qualifications of the ex-FBI feller haven't been challenged, how is the fact that "only" 2 questions were asked relevant?

I know that it wasn't an investigative polygraph. When I was given that explanation a couple of days ago I called it bunk.

I think that polygraphs can be useful to LE but at the same time I feel that they are unreliable. I wrote a post I think yesterday about that.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Answering a question with a question is being evasive in my opinion. I do it all of the time here on Websleuths so I'm a semi pro at it.

Fair enough. I just don’t see a problem with it in this instance. There were more reasons to decline one than to agree with it, imo.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

It was two questions that are fundamentally the same.

That's true. It was actually only one question.

 

[Jax49]

I saw that, too. They were the only two “officialy asked” questions. The two that mattered, in other words.

And she passed with what I'd describe as "flying colors".

"All three concluded that Ford's responses were "not indicative of deception," with one scale registering a 0.002% probability that she was lying, and another giving it less than a .02% chance."

 

[Elley Mae]

I know that it wasn't an investigative polygraph. When I was given that explanation a couple of days ago I called it bunk.

I think that polygraphs can be useful to LE but at the same time I feel that they are unreliable. I wrote a post I think yesterday about that.

Just the question to someone “guilty” to take a poly is telling, not the test findings but their reaction to taking one.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Fair enough. I just don’t see a problem with it in this instance. There were more reasons to decline one than to agree with it, imo.

Of course you don't.

I still would like to know who paid for the polygraph. Dr Ford stumbled over that question also. Off to find a link.

 

[Jax49]

Of course you don't.

I still would like to know who paid for the polygraph. Dr Ford stumbled over that question also. Off to find a link.

I don't have a link handy but during the hearing her attorney said they paid for it. moo

ETA link:
Christine Blasey Ford's lawyers say they paid for polygraph test

 

[Hope4More]

Lie detector questions: "Is any part of your statement false?"

"Did you make up any part of your statement?"

Not the same question, but perhaps worded to overlap to test for shades of truthfulness/untruth.

Is anything false means are you deliberately lying about anything in your statement?

Did you make anything up replicates did you deliberately lie, but also encompasses, did you write anything that you didn't know to be either true or untrue, but included it for whatever reason?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I found it. I wonder why she had a hard time answering that question?

Ford's lawyers paid for her polygraph

Under questioning from a lawyer appointed by Republicans, Ford told the committee that she didn't know who paid for the polygraph, which her team said showed "no deception" from her as she answered questions about the incident.

But when the question was asked again after the lunch break, her lawyer said her legal team paid for it.

Ford's lawyers paid for her polygraph

 

[Hope4More]

Of course you don't.

I still would like to know who paid for the polygraph. Dr Ford stumbled over that question also. Off to find a link.

Her attorney stepped in and said (paraphrased) "let's put an end to this misery. We, her attorneys paid for it . Which is standard ."

Why does it matter who paid for it?

 

[Mica]

I still don’t see any evasiveness.

She agreed to take a polygraph. She’s putting herself at risk doing that — as many have pointed out, they’re not exactly trusted.

Ya haven’t knocked Kavanaugh for declining one. For multiple reasons. They’re risky.

Yes she takes one and passes and her motives are questioned.

Do you think she should have refused?

The you tube is self explanatory. Her attorney had to coach her on how to answer a simple question about why she decided to take a polygraph.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

I'm looking at journalist's from the outside and your looking from the inside.

I doubt we will ever agree on this subject. Besides it is off topic.

Not exactly. I’m sharing a perspective that includes both being a consumer of news, just like you are, and as someone who has the experience to add context and actual factual information to the discussion.

It isn’t off topic, because it goes to exactly what we’re discussing.

In fact, many of us discussed it at length in this very thread yesterday. It’s relevant.

There have been many claims made in this thread that “the media” is biased, that they’re liberal shills out to “get” Kavanaugh. Or bent on “ruining” a party or a president or a platform.

The claims are wildly inaccurate as far as most MSM reporting is concerned.

It’s all relevant to this thread.

Sharing my perspective gives insight.

You may not be interested or care to believe it, but that doesn’t make it off-topic or irrelevant, imo.

Journalists are just doing their jobs, and “getting Kavanaugh” isn’t that job. In this context, they’re reporting on events.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Just the question to someone “guilty” to take a poly is telling, not the test findings but their reaction to taking one.

I'm not sure if refusing to take a polygraph is telling if that's what you're saying.

The answers to questions asked during the polygraph can be beneficial to LE. If a non sworn civilian polygraph examiner asks the questions no "Miranda Warning" is required. JMO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Not exactly. I’m sharing a perspective that includes both being a consumer of news, just like you are, and as someone who has the experience to add context and actual factual information to the discussion.

It isn’t off topic, because it goes to exactly what we’re discussing.

In fact, many of us discussed it at length in this very thread yesterday. It’s relevant.

There have been many claims made in this thread that “the media” is biased, that they’re liberal shills out to “get” Kavanaugh. Or bent on “ruining” a party or a president or a platform.

The claims are wildly inaccurate as far as most MSM reporting is concerned.

It’s all relevant to this thread.

Sharing my perspective gives insight.

You may not be interested or care to believe it, but that doesn’t make it off-topic or irrelevant, imo.

Journalists are just doing their jobs, and “getting Kavanaugh” isn’t that job. In this context, they’re reporting on events.

Ok then. I would say that a liberal journalist would never admit to the obvious liberal bias in MSM.

 

[simba16]

The you tube is self explanatory. Her attorney had to coach her on how to answer a simple question about why she decided to take a polygraph.

BK spent many days being coached at WH. Then he showed up for testimony and started in on a hysterical rant which inspired a SNL skit. "I like beer."

 

[Deleted member 39678]

The you tube is self explanatory. Her attorney had to coach her on how to answer a simple question about why she decided to take a polygraph.

Yes. I was looking for an exact quote of that exchange but didn't find it right away. I will look for it when I can. Thanks.

 

[Mica]

Yes. I was looking for an exact quote of that exchange but didn't find it right away. I will look for it when I can. Thanks.

Ranch, watch this ..... the exchange between Ford and her attorney upon questioning about polygraph.

Ford, on why she decided to take a polygraph....

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Ok then. I would say that a liberal journalist would never admit to the obvious liberal bias in MSM.

I’m not a liberal journalist.

I’m a journalist.

If you disagree with me, that’s fine. Your opinion doesn’t bother me. Disagreeing doesn’t faze me.

Please, though, enough with the personalizing. This thread’s been going strong all day. I don’t want it shut down.

 

[MyBelle]

I'm not sure if refusing to take a polygraph is telling if that's what you're saying.

The answers to questions asked during the polygraph can be beneficial to LE. If a non sworn civilian polygraph examiner asks the questions no "Miranda Warning" is required. JMO

I think the therapists notes will have far more value to the FBI than a two-question poly..