Susan Atkins wants out of jail to die...

[philamena]

No doubt Roman suffered terribly.
It seems Roman had his own therapy. He dated 13 year old girls and was charged with statutory rape...then he fled the country.

 

[deanws]

No doubt Roman suffered terribly.
It seems Roman had his own therapy. He dated 13 year old girls and was charged with statutory rape...then he fled the country.

Geeze...didn't know that.

 

[southcitymom]

Geeze...didn't know that.

He escaped punishment by fleeing America. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski

 

[j2mirish]

I agree. Maria, that was first class!!!!!! My hat's off to you!!!!

yes, it was-

 

[PSUfan]

Sweeties,
You might want to look at my last post prior to this one. I retracted my statement that she should be released pre-corpse, and I apologized to the posters for my prior position on this.

Doris Tate has worked very hard to keep abreast of Atkins and the others. She has kept Sharon's memory alive. I personally don't think Roman Polanski has been exactly " right" since then... I think the murders of his wife and son destroyed a part of him, and I understand that as best as I can, not having lost a child to murder but to cancer. If someone had killed her, I would want them to fry. Putting myself in the families' places has changed my outlook on what should be done with Atkins, regardless of her terminal illness.
A person given a death penalty sentence partly based upon their own gruesome confessions, even though the sentence was commuted to life for political reasons, doesn't deserve to ever see an hour of freedom.

I feel for the victims families, all of them, the LaBianca family, the Folger family, the Sebring relatives the Parent family, all of them. Every single one of the people who were stabbed, hung, shot, beaten, was in the wrong place at the wrong time. The surviving family members deserve the respect of every Manson cult member serving their sentence until the day they are carried out in a body bag.

Again, I know everyone can't read all posts, but I did write a heartfelt apology and a retraction. I appreciate having a place where our opinions can be stated, and where intelligent discussion can change some of those opinions.

Thank you very much. :blowkiss:
Respectfully.
Maria

No need to apologize, for having had a different opinion in the beginning. I often change my opinions when I read persuasive arguments, or before I have researched something fully.

I agree though, that it is great to have a place where we can chew the fat... shoot the , and maybe even change our minds about something.

 

[PSUfan]

He escaped punishment by fleeing America. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski

I KNEW his name sounded familiar, for some other reason than the Manson case.

The guy is a slimeball.

 

[shana]

He escaped punishment by fleeing America. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski

from the wiki (bolding mine):

Following the plea agreement, according to the aforementioned documentary, the court ordered Polanski to report to a state prison for a 90-day psychiatric evaluation, but granted a stay of ninety days to allow him to complete his current project. Under the terms set by the court, he was permitted to travel abroad. The 90-day term was, strictly speaking, only a diagnostic procedure, and not supposed to represent the actual punishment. However, it was tacitly understood that in the final disposition of the case, the sentence, if any, would be no more than time served. Polanski did return to California and report to Chino State Prison for the evaluation period, and was released after 42 days. The judge's anger at this, and also at photographs taken of Polanski enjoying himself at the Oktoberfest in Munich, cast doubt on whether he would honor the original agreement.

Before sentencing, Polanski was tipped off that allegedly the judge was going to disregard the plea bargain, in which case he would likely have faced a lengthy stay in prison. On February 1, 1978, Polanski fled to London...

Also these mentions:

In his autobiography, Polanski described his brief time with Tate as the best years of his life.

...

Polanski returned to Europe shortly after the killers were arrested. He later said that he gave away all his possessions as everything reminded him of Tate and was too painful for him, and that the greatest regret of his life was that he was not in Los Angeles with Tate on the night of her murder.

Once again, agreeing with Maria when she typed: "I personally don't think Roman Polanski has been exactly " right" since then..."

 

[tezi]

Well now, Watson leads a ministry now and if you read his writing, it sounds pretty good. He may be faking it, but he's been very consistent for years. If it's an act, then Susan's repenting could be as well. I may be wrong, but I believe Watson has either been face to face or communicated with family of at least one victim at his request to apologise. It's tough to know who is sincere and who is not.

And if you look further, you'll find that he and his wife got into trouble with his "ministry." Something to do with misappropriating funds or something. I believe he was illegally funneling funds to her from the "ministry" while she was collecting welfare for their four children from the state of California.

Watson has not changed, he is just as evil as he was before. In fact, on his last parole date, the parole board gave him the longest time they could before he could seek parole again. And please no one tell me he was as innocent as the driven snow before he met Charles Manson, because he wasn't. He was a thief and into drugs long before he took up with Manson.

Sorry to get off topic.

Susan Atkins needs to stay where she is. She was convicted of eight murders! And she used to communicate with Manson even after they were convicted. IMO, she has/had absolutely no remorse for her victims. I don't think she deserves any remorse either. I wouldn't wish cancer on my worst enemy, but even though she has cancer, it doesn't mean I need to feel sorry for her!

Jeana (((Hugs))):blowkiss::blowkiss:

 

[kazzbar]

If Atkins has cancer then tough...let her stay where she is.....sounds like Karma to me.
I have no feelings of sadness for Charlie or any of his deranged 'crew' they are all just evil ..
There is no more revoltingly chilling case...

 

[SuziQ]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369520,00.html

California's director of adult prisons is recommending that former Charles Manson follower and convicted murderer Susan Atkins be denied a compassionate release on the basis of terminal illness. (more at link)

 

[Tom'sGirl]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369520,00.html

California's director of adult prisons is recommending that former Charles Manson follower and convicted murderer Susan Atkins be denied a compassionate release on the basis of terminal illness. (more at link)

It was a good call, and most out here thought the same

 

[NewMom2003]

It was a good call, and most out here thought the same

I do.

 

[southcitymom]

It was a good call, and most out here thought the same

Thanks for the follow up. Does this mean the compassionate release process stops - or does it go on to others to be considered? I couldn't really tell from the article.

 

[i.b.nora]

Thanks for the follow up. Does this mean the compassionate release process stops - or does it go on to others to be considered? I couldn't really tell from the article.

No, it doesn't stop with that person's decision. The process continues.

State recommends against releasing Sharon Tate's dying killer

"Suzan Hubbard, director of the Division of Adult Institutions, made her decision late Wednesday, said Terry Thornton, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. Thornton said she could not disclose Hubbard's reasons because of confidential information in the case file.

Officials at the California Institution for Women near Corona had recommended that Susan Atkins, 60, be released because she meets the criteria of having less than six months to live, no longer posing a threat and having family to support her."

and

"Hubbard weighed "all relevant information," Thornton said. That could have included the potential to reoffend, the possible effect on victims and their families, and letters from the public.

Hubbard's recommendation, however, is not the last word.

The case now goes to the state Board of Parole Hearings, which will conduct an investigation and make recommendations. The board is scheduled to meet July 15, and if it takes up Atkins' case, the public will be invited to comment.

After that, the case will go to the original sentencing court in Los Angeles County, where a judge's decision would be final."

I am fairly sure they won't grant it, or they will purposely extend the process so they don't have to make a final decision.

I stand by my opinion that it should be granted.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

I stand by my opinion that it should be granted.

I applaud you voicing your stance on this issue I.B.N., especially since your view is in the minority and not a popular one.

 

[southcitymom]

No, it doesn't stop with that person's decision. The process continues.

State recommends against releasing Sharon Tate's dying killer

"Suzan Hubbard, director of the Division of Adult Institutions, made her decision late Wednesday, said Terry Thornton, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. Thornton said she could not disclose Hubbard's reasons because of confidential information in the case file.

Officials at the California Institution for Women near Corona had recommended that Susan Atkins, 60, be released because she meets the criteria of having less than six months to live, no longer posing a threat and having family to support her."

and

"Hubbard weighed "all relevant information," Thornton said. That could have included the potential to reoffend, the possible effect on victims and their families, and letters from the public.

Hubbard's recommendation, however, is not the last word.

The case now goes to the state Board of Parole Hearings, which will conduct an investigation and make recommendations. The board is scheduled to meet July 15, and if it takes up Atkins' case, the public will be invited to comment.

After that, the case will go to the original sentencing court in Los Angeles County, where a judge's decision would be final."

I am fairly sure they won't grant it, or they will purposely extend the process so they don't have to make a final decision.

I stand by my opinion that it should be granted.

Thanks for this article. You and I share the same opinion.

 

[deanws]

Thanks for this article. You and I share the same opinion.

I hope it isn't...and I hope the public shows up in huge numbers to protest her release.

 

[PSUfan]

Thanks for the follow up. Does this mean the compassionate release process stops - or does it go on to others to be considered? I couldn't really tell from the article.

I sure hope others are considered for it. Someone without a life sentence would be the ideal candidate for the compassionate release. I think the nature of the crime should be considered in the decision to grant someone this release.

Mass murderers need not apply.

On edit.. I see you were replying to The Atkins request, and not all requests for compassionate release, so my reply doesn't make much sense. hehe.. oh well, par for the course.

 

[dingo]

I hope it isn't...and I hope the public shows up in huge numbers to protest her release.

so do I ..some people do not deserve compassion..her soul belongs to the devil and the sooner he gets it the better.

 

[PSUfan]

so do I ..some people do not deserve compassion..her soul belongs to the devil and the sooner he gets it the better.

Since you brought up the afterlife.. or religion, let me say that I believe that people can be forgiven for any horrific act.. anything less than that would be an insult to Jesus (the faith that I know best) and his sacrifice on the cross. That is if you are a Christian, and do believe in all of that.

I hope she has had repentance, and along with that, she wouldve realized the weight of her actions.. she wouldve wanted restitution, and begged forgiveness from her victims, and families. She would honor their wishes, that she die in prison, IMO. And then she would be welcomed into Heaven, as a forgiven sinner.

JMO.