SUSPECT IN CUSTODY MN - 2 Minnesota lawmakers and their spouses were shot by someone impersonating a police officer, JUNE 13,2025

[Knox]

That is a nice home on acreage.
From the cv info others have shown here, I can’t see how he could afford all the things he seems to have.
Did his wife work?
Could his wife’s family have money?
Did she lose a parent and get an inheritance?

IMO

This is just a hunch, I haven’t actually verified any sales by looking at County Recorder’s websites. But they did own properties in WI and MN. A public data site shows several real estate sales in the past five years.

Maybe at some point he was making good money and had invested in real estate. When times became lean, he sold them to provide money to live on. But recently it too was running out?

I noted the woman who knew the family and spotted him in the field - stated in her interview that she had taken them wood and they were grateful. I wondered if that meant they had no source of heat and she was helping them out? IIRC, she said she was friends with his wife.

 

[vls12345]

Neighbors share experiences during weekend manhunt for Vance Boelter

Hours before Vance Boelter's arrest for the shootings of two Minnesota lawmakers, a heavily armed SWAT team rolled into Minneapolis.

www.kare11.com

 

[sds71]

On a now-defunct website for Revoformation, a nonprofit he founded several years later, Boelter laid out a basic biography and said he had been “ordained” in 1993. He said he had gone to a small Catholic college near Milwaukee — Cardinal Stritch, which is now closed — as well as Christ for the Nations Institute, a Dallas school that is part of the broad, nondenominational world of charismatic Christianity.

And, the bio claimed, he had made trips overseas to seek out “militant Islamists” to “tell them violence wasn’t the answer.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/06/17/vance-boelter-minnesota-shooting-christianity/

 

[Raynebowtaster]

That I didn’t know, thank you for posting this article.

 

[bugenjoyer]

this is so scary. i worry that things like this are going to be happening more and more.

 

[tlcya]

On a now-defunct website for Revoformation, a nonprofit he founded several years later, Boelter laid out a basic biography and said he had been “ordained” in 1993. He said he had gone to a small Catholic college near Milwaukee — Cardinal Stritch, which is now closed — as well as Christ for the Nations Institute, a Dallas school that is part of the broad, nondenominational world of charismatic Christianity.

And, the bio claimed, he had made trips overseas to seek out “militant Islamists” to “tell them violence wasn’t the answer.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/06/17/vance-boelter-minnesota-shooting-christianity/

maybe he should have practiced what he preached?

 

[tlcya]

Christ for the Nations was founded in 1970 by Gordon Lindsay, a prominent preacher in independent, charismatic Christianity. The focus of the movement initially was on evangelizing, faith healing and experiential worship such as speaking in tongues. In the last quarter-century, however, a segment of it turned to politics and changing policies, especially around abortion.

A Lindsay quote long posted in the school’s lobby reads: “Everyone ought to pray at least one violent prayer each day.”
[snip]
the group disseminates “very extreme” rhetoric about abortion, which he said some of its leaders have portrayed as a form of child sacrifice that empowers demons.

Boelter “seems very much to embrace some of the violent rhetoric and ideas that circulate through those spaces,” Taylor said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/06/17/vance-boelter-minnesota-shooting-christianity/

ugg MOO

 

[vls12345]

Do you think VB's charges will be upgraded to include domestic terrorism? I hope they are.

Current charges listed here:

After Two-Day Manhunt, Suspect Charged with Shooting Two Minnesota Lawmakers and Their Spouses

www.justice.gov

and

Hennepin County Attorney’s Office confirms multiple charges against Vance Luther Boelter, will seek first-degree murder charges | Hennepin County

Hennepin County Attorney’s Office confirms multiple charges against Vance Luther Boelter, will seek first-degree murder charges (release June 2025)

www.hennepinattorney.org

 

[tlcya]

Do you think VB's charges will be upgraded to include domestic terrorism? I hope they are.

Current charges listed here:

After Two-Day Manhunt, Suspect Charged with Shooting Two Minnesota Lawmakers and Their Spouses

www.justice.gov

and

Hennepin County Attorney’s Office confirms multiple charges against Vance Luther Boelter, will seek first-degree murder charges | Hennepin County

Hennepin County Attorney’s Office confirms multiple charges against Vance Luther Boelter, will seek first-degree murder charges (release June 2025)

www.hennepinattorney.org

they absolutely should be. Do I think they will, nope, politics will prevent that. JMO

 

[Damarna]

Is it possible that VB was "on call" for his funeral home gig so stayed in Minneapolis to be close to where he needed to go?

 

[Megnut]

Is it possible that VB was "on call" for his funeral home gig so stayed in Minneapolis to be close to where he needed to go?

I think that's exactly it. But it also have him time for his bizarre ideas to ferment and moment. Too much time. Time to fill notebooks, time to stop at Fleet Farm. A whole lot of unchecked crazy.

Sounds like he's had about every kind of job, for a hot minute, then suddenly fancies himself an injustice seeker. Paper license plates with too small mailbox letters, rubber mask, seemingly fenced car and ebike in a street corner deal, cash, arsenal and he finds of army crawling into surrender. You can't make this stuff up.

And you can't give life back to the couple he murdered nor undo the absolutely riddled damage he left behind.

I'm frankly curious to learn if he got drunk on his own ideology or if there's an organic explanation for this guy's descent into very calculated madness.

JMO

 

[Tallburt]

Christ for the Nations was founded in 1970 by Gordon Lindsay, a prominent preacher in independent, charismatic Christianity. The focus of the movement initially was on evangelizing, faith healing and experiential worship such as speaking in tongues. In the last quarter-century, however, a segment of it turned to politics and changing policies, especially around abortion.

A Lindsay quote long posted in the school’s lobby reads: “Everyone ought to pray at least one violent prayer each day.”
[snip]
the group disseminates “very extreme” rhetoric about abortion, which he said some of its leaders have portrayed as a form of child sacrifice that empowers demons.

Boelter “seems very much to embrace some of the violent rhetoric and ideas that circulate through those spaces,” Taylor said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/06/17/vance-boelter-minnesota-shooting-christianity/

ugg MOO

Cripes!
My aunt became a US citizen in the 60s (born in the UK) and I know she has been a part of this organisation....
I knew she was a keen Christian and likes Trump but this is on another level...

 

[Tippy Lynn]

So the real police pulled up to a car with police plates, was ignored by VB, and drove off? I have no idea if that's standard but you'd think the real police would have been alarmed that the guy in the other car ignored them. MOO

I find it odd that police officers wouldn’t have real time locations for all officers on duty in their county.

 

[sunflowermomma]

I find it odd that police officers wouldn’t have real time locations for all officers on duty in their county.

They do, via dispatch, but in an active shooter situation they likely didn't have time to figure this out in the moment.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

They do, via dispatch, but in an active shooter situation they likely didn't have time to figure this out in the moment.

If they do, it was definitely a missed opportunity. When the officer pulled up to Vance along the road and he didn’t respond that was a huge clue that something wasn’t right. She was doing a welfare check at that time and wasn’t responding to an active shooting. I know it’s easy to say when you’re not in that situation, but officers are trained for this. IMO

 

[vls12345]

If they do, it was definitely a missed opportunity. When the officer pulled up to Vance along the road and he didn’t respond that was a huge clue that something wasn’t right. She was doing a welfare check at that time and wasn’t responding to an active shooting. I know it’s easy to say when you’re not in that situation, but officers are trained for this. IMO

I've thought about that. I am assuming she thought it was hinky but maybe the first priority was to verify that the person for the welfare check was ok. And she was waiting for backup too, iirc. It's too bad she wasn't able to keep eyes on him until backup arrived though. Jmo.

 

[CLGM]

Something that is bothering me -- remember when there was a massive perp walk with Luigi, as if to make an example of him? Why did this guy not get that also? Wouldn't LE have wanted to make a show of what someone who impersonates police officers would endure at the very least? And as a deterrent to any other insane people in the country who might be contemplating something like this? Instead, he was whisked quietly into the courthouse. I read that he wasn't shackled either (but I will find a link to that). Is this is a sign of things to come? That it will be downplayed? I could only hope that the folks of Minnesota would not stand for that after being terrorized for the time he was running.

Also, why wasn't there a terrorism charge? Is this not a clear act of terrorism?

I don't get it.

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here is the DOJ press release FWIW

After Two-Day Manhunt, Suspect Charged with Shooting Two Minnesota Lawmakers and Their Spouses

Vance Boelter, 57, of Green Isle, Minnesota, has been charged by federal complaint with stalking and murdering Minnesota House of Representatives Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband, in addition to stalking and shooting Minnesota State Senator John Hoffman and his wife.

www.justice.gov

 

[CLGM]

Something that is bothering me -- remember when there was a massive perp walk with Luigi, as if to make an example of him? Why did this guy not get that also? Wouldn't LE have wanted to make a show of what someone who impersonates police officers would endure at the very least? And as a deterrent to any other insane people in the country who might be contemplating something like this? Instead, he was whisked quietly into the courthouse. I read that he wasn't shackled either (but I will find a link to that). Is this is a sign of things to come? That it will be downplayed? I could only hope that the folks of Minnesota would not stand for that after being terrorized for the time he was running.

Also, why wasn't there a terrorism charge? Is this not a clear act of terrorism?

I don't get it.

____________________________________________
here is the DOJ press release FWIW

After Two-Day Manhunt, Suspect Charged with Shooting Two Minnesota Lawmakers and Their Spouses

Vance Boelter, 57, of Green Isle, Minnesota, has been charged by federal complaint with stalking and murdering Minnesota House of Representatives Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband, in addition to stalking and shooting Minnesota State Senator John Hoffman and his wife.

www.justice.gov

Adding source for not being shackled or handcuffed!!

 

[tlcya]

Boelter [snip] was carrying out his gruesome extraction work as part of an organ donation program, said the friend and sometime roommate David Carlson.

“He’d always said, ‘I need rest for work so I’m sharp’ because he was extracting eyeballs. You gotta be sharp for that,” Carlson said.

Accused Minnesota assassin Vance Boelter extracted eyeballs from corpses for a living — and was on call night of double murder

On another note I just learned Illinois house representative Nikki Budzinski was one of the persons named in his target list. yikes. As a coworker said, there are much higher profile IL Dems he could have targeted. I suspect it is her very vocal stance on abortion and reproductive rights that landed her there.

Illinois US Rep. Nikki Budzinski of Illinois Among Lawmakers Named in Writings of Suspected Minnesota Shooter

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

The Justice Department is charging 57-year-old Vance Boelter with federal murder, stalking and shooting offenses. If convicted on the federal murder charge, he could face the death penalty.
(…)
When asked why U.S. prosecutors have not brought terrorism charges, Thompson said the investigation is still in its early stages and more charges could still come.

“We brought the charges that we think are appropriate right now,” Thompson said.

Federal charges: Boelter went to 4 homes as he sought to kill lawmakers

The man who authorities say shot and killed House Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband and injured Sen. John Hoffman and his wife is now facing capital charges.

kstp.com