Suspicious behavior of Haleigh Cummings father

[Dr.Fessel]

I have always wondered if the search of the mondex pond was from the cops putting GPS tracking on Ron's truck and he was making repeated trips out there to water and take care of and get buds off his plants and make sure whoever helped him move them was not stealing some.

 

[Emeralgem]

The clip from post#262 (quoted above)tells us how big a liar rc really is. The most outstanding part of the clip is watching TN run the show. This woman NEVER stops interfering. She is the ultimate helicopter parent and the scariest person in the world to have for a mother-in-law.

Geraldo was on it and good. Teresa knew it. RC was losing it. He lied about the drugs, he lied about hitting his children, he lied about hitting women. Tn has proven she and she alone is running this show.

If people so much as call her precious ron a name, she and ron feel the authorities should be called....such entitlement from these two. RC was high as a kite in that clip.

Did anyone catch the bricks of marijuana in rc's place along with many plants? Now where did the plants and paraphenalia go on February 9th and who took them to their destination? Answer that and the case is solved.

How? Even if Tommy and cousin Jo cleaned out that MH of all drugs and paraphenalia for Ron C that night doesn't mean they were the ones who disposed of Haleigh...IMHO..I highly suspect The Cummings have made certain no one knows where Haleigh was taken or how her remains were disposed of...JMO

 

[4Jacy]

The clip from post#262 (quoted above)tells us how big a liar rc really is. The most outstanding part of the clip is watching TN run the show. This woman NEVER stops interfering. She is the ultimate helicopter parent and the scariest person in the world to have for a mother-in-law.

Geraldo was on it and good. Teresa knew it. RC was losing it. He lied about the drugs, he lied about hitting his children, he lied about hitting women. Tn has proven she and she alone is running this show.

If people so much as call her precious ron a name, she and ron feel the authorities should be called....such entitlement from these two. RC was high as a kite in that clip.

Did anyone catch the bricks of marijuana in rc's place along with many plants? Now where did the plants and paraphenalia go on February 9th and who took them to their destination? Answer that and the case is solved.

Whisp, no I never saw the bricks of marijuana and plants. Please let me know if you have a pic of that site.

Love the "helicopter parent." You gave me the best laugh I've had in a long time! We call the the mothers that wait in their SUV's at the bus stop to pick up their kids "helicopter moms."

We are leaving for a few days - having a flood. See you then.

 

[lonetraveler]

The clip from post#262 (quoted above)tells us how big a liar rc really is. The most outstanding part of the clip is watching TN run the show. This woman NEVER stops interfering. She is the ultimate helicopter parent and the scariest person in the world to have for a mother-in-law.

Geraldo was on it and good. Teresa knew it. RC was losing it. He lied about the drugs, he lied about hitting his children, he lied about hitting women. Tn has proven she and she alone is running this show.

If people so much as call her precious ron a name, she and ron feel the authorities should be called....such entitlement from these two. RC was high as a kite in that clip.

Did anyone catch the bricks of marijuana in rc's place along with many plants? Now where did the plants and paraphenalia go on February 9th and who took them to their destination? Answer that and the case is solved.

What I got out of Geraldo's interview and comments was that a local had obviously gave Geraldo some information about Ron's activities in this neighborhood. Wish someone would find this local and ask more questions.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I guess that I was a "helicopter mom" - cause I waited in my SUV to pick up my DD from the bus stop. When you have 597 RSO's within a 5 mile radius of my house - oh he11 no - she ain't walking to/from any bus stop! Plus in the AM it would be dark when we had to leave too. But I get where you are coming from with the "helicopter mom" comment.

:crazy:

 

[elle1919]

I guess that I was a "helicopter mom" - cause I waited in my SUV to pick up my DD from the bus stop. When you have 597 RSO's within a 5 mile radius of my house - oh he11 no - she ain't walking to/from any bus stop! Plus in the AM it would be dark when we had to leave too. But I get where you are coming from with the "helicopter mom" comment.

:crazy:

wayyy off topic but oh my gosh. 597? That is unGodly!! I am so glad I live way out here in the country where the bus stops right at the end end of my darn driveway.

 

[Baznme]

Why does that photo appear to have been crumpled up and unfolded?

It's a Xerox color photocopy. Copy paper doesn't hold up well when handled and yes, it does look like he had rolled it in his hand and reopened it.

 

[Chromedaffodils]

ILM, so agree with you. He probably bought her cigarettes, beer, food and she attached herself to what she thought was her rising "star". Didn't she find it odd that she didn't even have a key to the MH?

The biggest thing for me is: How could Ron take her back after the weekend she had? How? Doesn't he have any self worth. Why would he want to be with a woman that did what she did that weekend?!

All my Opinion below, as I brainstorm possibilities:

*I apologize ahead of time for length or if anything is inappropriate, I don't know how else to say it or get feedback on it, other than like it is. Thank you for your input. I am not a super-active poster, so please go easy on me as I try to be more active here Take care all...

Maybe he didn't care because it is also possible he was actually pimping her out, was he?... who says that wasn't more so the case... because at the time, that weekend, she wasn't a "woman", she was a child. What could he have done, really? He needed her services (watching kids, etc.) and was possibly using her to meet his sick fantasies, as he had many times in the past (how many children does he have where the mom was under 18?) and she was easy to keep (think how many predators have to trap their victims, and his was willingly staying with him, and watching his kids free, what more could he want, so what if she was passed around, in his mind, it may make him feel less guilty for his sick fetishes IMO). I also think he feared being charged with a sex crime.

There is a possibility that along with the drugs and stuff, comes sharing sex for debt and making money using sex (you already have it, don't have to stock it, don't have to file taxes on it and you don't have a strict schedule, it is lazy money), especially when you don't have any way to get money, they become desperate (as Misty would have been) for cash and/or to pay off drug debt. When drugs and desperation are involved, this can easily become the way of life and the more you accept, the more normal and easy it becomes to accept even more criminal, dangerous, and harmful acts.

There was also something I heard on blogtalk radio (prob. tj hart or cobra or art harris or one of them) who said there was a child prostitution ring in the area and that they (ron &co.) were connected with it in at least a few degrees of relation. I don't know if they verified this before putting it on the show, anyone know? ... So they went on to say the police may have involvement in this ring and that is why they are not going into it more, that is a hefty allegation and I wondered if it was true. Anyone know if there is a prostitution ring in that area, or a sex swap thing that this group was involved in?

If there is one, maybe ron was pimping misty out a bit. Just a thought, since he hurried up and married her. I don't think he loved her, I think he loved young girls, because she is not mature, so it wasn't like they were "close in age" based on their maturity (well, maybe they were lol), she is very immature and has no foundation or resources, so he knew he could manipulate and use her. That is messed up. Anyway, she used him back to meet her needs, but he knew what he was doing was wrong, or he would have not married her.

I also had been thinking, remember way back when the Anthony's took a visit to support Ron and Misty? With the recent events unfolding exposing George with a mistress who claims he opened up about the case (Caylee's death) being an accident gone wrong... well... could his visit actually been a support and lesson to ron on how to avoid police, and could he have actually told ron caylee's death was an accident, in the process of "bonding" and "supporting" them?

Misery loves company, it could have been a psychological way of George getting support for themselves, gone wrong.. because ron even said he didn't want their help or support because his daughter's situation was NOTHING like theirs, hum.... so does that mean he KNEW what the Anthony situation REALLY was? And if so, would that mean he was truly unaware of his situation being identical to the Anthony's situation according to police (who said according to the same blog talk guys, the police told them the cases were eerily similar)? Which would possibly leave Ron more "innocent" than I originally felt like, if he did not think the cases were similar (an accidental death), if he would have, he may not have thrown them (George and sindy) out.

Just rambling more thoughts, sorry if it is to much room taken up... thanks

 

[Concerned Papa]

ILM, so agree with you. He probably bought her cigarettes, beer, food and she attached herself to what she thought was her rising "star". Didn't she find it odd that she didn't even have a key to the MH?

The biggest thing for me is: How could Ron take her back after the weekend she had? How? Doesn't he have any self worth. Why would he want to be with a woman that did what she did that weekend?!

The part I have bolded above is an honest question stemming from a normal reaction. How indeed? I can come nearer answering how RC took her back than I can the rest of his family. Everyone of them knew all about "White Boy", everyone of them knew about the threesome described by Tim Miller, everyone of them likely knew about the "gang bang" activity of MC described in the Cobra tape, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM knew that Misty was responsible for the safety of the children on that night.

Yet in full knowledge of all of this,

-Ronald married the dumb b****.

-GGM was so vocal in her praise of Misty she looked like she was ready to fist-fight the reporters in this interview:

http://www.wftv.com/video/18748628/index.html

-The incredulous nature of TN's giddy, euphoric praise of Misty Croslin is surpassed only by the fact that TN wanted her there on February 9th so much that she actually offered to pay her money!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca251Iv_sFk&feature=player_embedded

These people have been out there not only defending Misty with flat out lies, until recently they were willing to take on all comers in doing so. There is nothing "normal" in this purposeful reaction. IMO, there is a powerful reason behind it.

All of them were desperate to ensure Misty's happiness and silence about something.

 

[Emeralgem]

The part I have bolded above is an honest question stemming from a normal reaction. How indeed? I can come nearer answering how RC took her back than I can the rest of his family. Everyone of them knew all about "White Boy", everyone of them knew about the threesome described by Tim Miller, everyone of them likely knew about the "gang bang" activity of MC described in the Cobra tape, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM knew that Misty was responsible for the safety of the children on that night.

Yet in full knowledge of all of this,

-Ronald married the dumb b****.

-GGM was so vocal in her praise of Misty she looked like she was ready to fist-fight the reporters in this interview:

http://www.wftv.com/video/18748628/index.html

-The incredulous nature of TN's giddy, euphoric praise of Misty Croslin is surpassed only by the fact that TN wanted her there on February 9th so much that she actually offered to pay her money!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca251Iv_sFk&feature=player_embedded

These people have been out there not only defending Misty with flat out lies, until recently they were willing to take on all comers in doing so. There is nothing "normal" in this purposeful reaction. IMO, there is a powerful reason behind it.

All of them were desperate to ensure Misty's happiness and silence about something.

IMHO Ron didn't have plans to take her back, but the tragic event that took place after he found out Misty had picked Haleigh up changed all that.. He and the Cummings Clan desperately needed her help in order to attempt to prove Ron C was not in any way responsible for what had happened to Haleigh...Little did she know she was being set up from the beginning..JMO

 

[MADJGNLAW]

The part I have bolded above is an honest question stemming from a normal reaction. How indeed? I can come nearer answering how RC took her back than I can the rest of his family. Everyone of them knew all about "White Boy", everyone of them knew about the threesome described by Tim Miller, everyone of them likely knew about the "gang bang" activity of MC described in the Cobra tape, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM knew that Misty was responsible for the safety of the children on that night.

Yet in full knowledge of all of this,

-Ronald married the dumb b****.

-GGM was so vocal in her praise of Misty she looked like she was ready to fist-fight the reporters in this interview:

http://www.wftv.com/video/18748628/index.html

-The incredulous nature of TN's giddy, euphoric praise of Misty Croslin is surpassed only by the fact that TN wanted her there on February 9th so much that she actually offered to pay her money!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca251Iv_sFk&feature=player_embedded

These people have been out there not only defending Misty with flat out lies, until recently they were willing to take on all comers in doing so. There is nothing "normal" in this purposeful reaction. IMO, there is a powerful reason behind it.

All of them were desperate to ensure Misty's happiness and silence about something.

A red flag indeed!
I often wonder if Ron tried to do something to Misty and ended up hurting Haleigh instead by accident and blaming Misty. Maybe Misty used Haleigh as a shield or Haleigh just was in the line of fire, in the way of an attack on Misty, or in a place where an altercation took place that she was sent into a different room to play, and maybe there were drugs laying around while the two fought and that is how she got into the drugs. I still wonder though about what little Jr. said about seeing a man in black. Was this something that was told to him to say before 911 was called I wonder? Or did he really see someone? But where? Kids have an extrodinary memory and I feel that if Jr. saw something as he gets older that vision will become clearer and he will be able to explain it away. If it was something that was told to him to say, I think he may also reveal that as well in time.

What ever happen that night my gut tells me that Ron played some type of roll and was there at one time or another. Why else would the family stand by Misty's side the way they have? Makes no sense what so ever, none! There is no reason that could explain why they even entrusted Misty with the children. But that is JMO...

:waitasec:And where are the rest of Ron's audios? Why have we not heard more from him and "nothing" from Hope? I find it really odd that we have heard "Nothing" at all from Hope S.

 

[Chromedaffodils]

The part I have bolded above is an honest question stemming from a normal reaction. How indeed? I can come nearer answering how RC took her back than I can the rest of his family. Everyone of them knew all about "White Boy", everyone of them knew about the threesome described by Tim Miller, everyone of them likely knew about the "gang bang" activity of MC described in the Cobra tape, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM knew that Misty was responsible for the safety of the children on that night.

Yet in full knowledge of all of this,

-Ronald married the dumb b****.

-GGM was so vocal in her praise of Misty she looked like she was ready to fist-fight the reporters in this interview:

http://www.wftv.com/video/18748628/index.html

-The incredulous nature of TN's giddy, euphoric praise of Misty Croslin is surpassed only by the fact that TN wanted her there on February 9th so much that she actually offered to pay her money!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca251Iv_sFk&feature=player_embedded

These people have been out there not only defending Misty with flat out lies, until recently they were willing to take on all comers in doing so. There is nothing "normal" in this purposeful reaction. IMO, there is a powerful reason behind it.

All of them were desperate to ensure Misty's happiness and silence about something.

WOW! Thanks for your post! Looking back on this now - puts a new light on everything...

I almost spit my drink on my keyboard watching her fake cheesy grin sing and dance:Banane57: Misty's praises, :liar:and go on to profess them being a little family. I think they were afraid of Ron being in trouble for being with Misty, but I bet it is deeper than that, and with her saying Misty is the top of the list when it comes to Ron's girlfriends, :rotfl:, really!? Really?!

first - she sounds like cindy anthony - "...you need to stop pointing fingers and start looking for my grandchild..." WOW almost word for word!!

Second, there is more to this video, notice where it cuts out, I wonder if it is anything pertinent.

"You would have to see it to actually enjoy... It touches your heart how happy they are..."

Claims she has spoke with law enforcement (After a deep chested inhale - obvious nervousness) "I have spoke with enough of the detectives..." and trys to imply they back her, maybe that is where Ron gets his "I'm with LE, treat me special" behavior...?

I am with you PaPa, It is really odd how she defends her... why?

uke:

 

[Chromedaffodils]

IMHO Ron didn't have plans to take her back, but the tragic event that took place after he found out Misty had picked Haleigh up changed all that.. He and the Cummings Clan desperately needed her help in order to attempt to prove Ron C was not in any way responsible for what had happened to Haleigh...Little did she know she was being set up from the beginning..JMO

oooh... good theory....

so you think TN knows what happened?

 

[Chromedaffodils]

A red flag indeed!
I often wonder if Ron tried to do something to Misty and ended up hurting Haleigh instead by accident and blaming Misty. Maybe Misty used Haleigh as a shield or Haleigh just was in the line of fire, in the way of an attack on Misty, or in a place where an altercation took place that she was sent into a different room to play, and maybe there were drugs laying around while the two fought and that is how she got into the drugs. I still wonder though about what little Jr. said about seeing a man in black. Was this something that was told to him to say before 911 was called I wonder? Or did he really see someone? But where? Kids have an extrodinary memory and I feel that if Jr. saw something as he gets older that vision will become clearer and he will be able to explain it away. If it was something that was told to him to say, I think he may also reveal that as well in time.

What ever happen that night my gut tells me that Ron played some type of roll and was there at one time or another. Why else would the family stand by Misty's side the way they have? Makes no sense what so ever, none! There is no reason that could explain why they even entrusted Misty with the children. But that is JMO...

:waitasec:And where are the rest of Ron's audios? Why have we not heard more from him and "nothing" from Hope? I find it really odd that we have heard "Nothing" at all from Hope S.

I totally agree with you! I was just saying the same thing, where is everyone else's audio now, and why can't we get a straight answer on Ron' clock in and out and cell pings, who's to say ron even had his phone that night. That could have been part of it. Also, if her bro was there, he could have been there to party and things went bad, he could have had friends along, or jow, who could have had the van and so on...

 

[Emeralgem]

oooh... good theory....

so you think TN knows what happened?

Yes, I do..IMHO...TN knows exactly what happened and I have thought so for way over a year now...I also suspect she was called almost immediately..JMO

 

[Emeralgem]

A red flag indeed!
I often wonder if Ron tried to do something to Misty and ended up hurting Haleigh instead by accident and blaming Misty. Maybe Misty used Haleigh as a shield or Haleigh just was in the line of fire, in the way of an attack on Misty, or in a place where an altercation took place that she was sent into a different room to play, and maybe there were drugs laying around while the two fought and that is how she got into the drugs. I still wonder though about what little Jr. said about seeing a man in black. Was this something that was told to him to say before 911 was called I wonder? Or did he really see someone? But where? Kids have an extrodinary memory and I feel that if Jr. saw something as he gets older that vision will become clearer and he will be able to explain it away. If it was something that was told to him to say, I think he may also reveal that as well in time.

What ever happen that night my gut tells me that Ron played some type of roll and was there at one time or another. Why else would the family stand by Misty's side the way they have? Makes no sense what so ever, none! There is no reason that could explain why they even entrusted Misty with the children. But that is JMO...

:waitasec:And where are the rest of Ron's audios? Why have we not heard more from him and "nothing" from Hope? I find it really odd that we have heard "Nothing" at all from Hope S.

Unfortunately, I suspect Haleigh literally did get in the line of fire when her daddy was playing Billy Badd Azz with Misty...JMO

 

[Chromedaffodils]

Yes, I do..IMHO...TN knows exactly what happened and I have thought so for way over a year now...I also suspect she was called almost immediately..JMO

Y, didn't she say she was called and flew over, claiming to have sped, maybe she wanted to cover how she was there so quickly??

 

[SoSueMe]

I agree Papa, I think that Ron and Joe got into it too. I'm also a bit puzzled that cousin Joe doesn't appear to have a mark on him. :waitasec: I don't think the fight was about the gun though. I think Ron put that gun in the driveway pipe so that LE would not find it during the investigation.

Joe doesn't seem the type to wear jewelry, but who knows. If Ron hit Joe in the mouth, it could be teeth marks inbetween Ron's fingers. We're only seeing Joe's right side in the one available photo of Joe after Haleigh disappeared. Ron would have most likely hit Joe's left side. So that is a possibility.

As for the gun in culvert, I found it interesting that in Misty's LVA test, when she is describing this incident (I believe it's the LVA #2 video), Misty says, "...the board was hi... the board was up." She absolutely stops herself from saying the board was hiding it and changes it to the board was up. It's quirky and minor, but I thought it odd that she didn't want to use the word "hiding."

 

[SoSueMe]

I think it's possible that Ron, in an attempt to concoct a cover story for his fresh injuries, punched the door. Also, people who over indulge in pills, suffer from a lot of boils. But, I wonder why he felt it important to have it removed while his daughter was missing. Going to the dr. should've been the least of his worries.

Who is the nurse in that family? His aunt or cousin? She could have easily removed that boil or at least broken it for him right there in the tent. I would imagine they were all doting on him anyway.

 

[SoSueMe]

The clip from post#262 (quoted above)tells us how big a liar rc really is. The most outstanding part of the clip is watching TN run the show. This woman NEVER stops interfering. She is the ultimate helicopter parent and the scariest person in the world to have for a mother-in-law.

Geraldo was on it and good. Teresa knew it. RC was losing it. He lied about the drugs, he lied about hitting his children, he lied about hitting women. Tn has proven she and she alone is running this show.

If people so much as call her precious ron a name, she and ron feel the authorities should be called....such entitlement from these two. RC was high as a kite in that clip.

Did anyone catch the bricks of marijuana in rc's place along with many plants? Now where did the plants and paraphenalia go on February 9th and who took them to their destination? Answer that and the case is solved.

Being that TN is so defensive about her son, I would imagine TN was badgering LE to absolutely CLEAR her son publicly or at least give out definitive answers as to his alibi. I just have to wonder why LE has never done this for a grieving father, you know?