Teresa N., Haleigh's paternal grandmother #2

[LFlorida]

That's about it in a nutshell.

jmo...

Because there is NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE [including trace evidence] indicating that something untoward happened to Haleigh inside the mobile home on Green Ln.

 

[debs]

What does this mean?

It means that there is no residence available for the address at 105 Rita Ln. according to the 911 address database. That's what I understood it to mean.

 

[LFlorida]

What does this mean?

911 addresses are available via Putnam County Property Appraiser's website and Putnam County Tax Collector's website.

 

[LFlorida]

There is no 911 address for 105 R... Lane. Y'all might want to contact PCSO to advise them in case her trailer catches on fire.

jmo

Is there a LE incident report re: the theft of the digital photo "sticks" from Teresa's home? That could clear everything up PDQ.

imo

 

[LFlorida]

Wow, I can sure clear a room.

LOL

 

[Flossie JMO]

My question was about the fire joke. I know where Teresa lives, I don't have questions about that.

 

[Whisperer]

I am glad to hear that finally someone knows where TN lives..

According to records she has lived in Fruitland Park since 11/08. I have posted the record before.

Tn by now is very aware people are sleuthing that addy.

Cany anyone explain how that Rita Lane Addy was used by others in the family also. It seems one moves out, another moves in. It is a very curious address. I am not swayed by the chalk on the mailbox at the end of the row. Teresa moves around alot. she has not lived there for awhile but I may suggest that a MH could be family property in that area.

TN's last two addresses (if she hasn't updated since posting months ago) are in Fruitland Park, 84 miles from Satsuma. Her associates are Jeff H.

As I had suggested..if the family doesn't own 105 than she is renting two properites or lives in two places.

 

[elle1919]

jmo...

Because there is NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE [including trace evidence] indicating that something untoward happened to Haleigh inside the mobile home on Green Ln.

your statement contradicts what LE claims to have.

ETA....when i come back i will post a link to statements that LE has given where they claim to have physical evidence that contradicts Misty's story. I am sure you are all excited for my return.....lol

 

[debs]

your statement contradicts what LE claims to have.

ETA....when i come back i will post a link to statements that LE has given where they claim to have physical evidence that contradicts Misty's story. I am sure you are all excited for my return.....lol

Contradicting Misty's story is not exclusive of evidence found which would prove Haleigh was never in that MH that night and in fact was gone long before the 911 call was made. Then, it would indeed be true what Laflorida states that there is no evidence to suggest anything untoward happening to Haleigh in the MH.

 

[Whisperer]

1: FRUITLAND PARK, FL 34731-0787

FRUITLAND PARK, FL 34731-0787
LAKE COUNTY
.......................As of: 5/2009
Household Members
None Listed
Other Associates
H, JEFF G

2: ......NEST RD FRUITLAND PARK, FL 34731-5466
..... NEST RD
FRUITLAND PARK, FL 34731-5466
LAKE COUNTY
...............................As Of 11/2008
Telephone:
Household Members
None Listed
Other Associates
H, JEFF G

OLD HIGHWAY 17 CRESCENT CITY, FL 32112-4443
OLD HIGHWAY 17
CRESCENT CITY, FL 32112-4443
PUTNAM COUNTY
............................. As Of: 7/2008

Household Members
None Listed
Other Associates
SYKES, MYLES K

Associates here is interesting..looks like he may have owned this home before he died.

 

[LFlorida]

your statement contradicts what LE claims to have.

ETA....when i come back i will post a link to statements that LE has given where they claim to have physical evidence that contradicts Misty's story. I am sure you are all excited for my return.....lol

It contradicts Misty's story.

It does NOT contradict where Haleigh was injured, killed, or snatched which apparently was NOT at the mobile home.

'least that's my reading of it.

 

[Whisperer]

It contradicts Misty's story.

It does NOT contradict where Haleigh was injured, killed, or snatched which apparently was NOT at the mobile home.

'least that's my reading of it.

I am ...LF.

 

[LFlorida]

My question was about the fire joke. I know where Teresa lives, I don't have questions about that.

I'm sorry. Did I write LOL at the end of my message? It was not a joke.

Right now if she needs an ambulance or someone to come save that trailer from burning down and she gives that 911 address, it will come back to the 911 operator as "No such address."

No joke or threat intended.

Where is that incident report re: the theft?

 

[Flossie JMO]

I'm sorry. Did I write LOL at the end of my message? It was not a joke.

Right now if she needs an ambulance or someone to come save that trailer from burning down and she gives that 911 address, it will come back to the 911 operator as "No such address."

No joke or threat intended.

Where is that incident report re: the theft?

I guess I misunderstood the wink after the fire comment. No worries.

what incident report?

 

[LFlorida]

I am ...LF.

You are indeed a bulldog re:this point of fact and it is appreciated by me.

 

[Whisperer]

If there was any serious sleuthing done on the Addys, we could be further ahead. AND yes, I am sure LE knows and has known from the start where all these people really live/reside. BUT we don't. We have taken their word. Just because an address was given to responding officers does not make it fact. It is not against the law to lie to a police officer.

I would like to know when RC notified TN something was amiss in Satsuma. Somehing may have been wrong early evening, we don't know. However; it is suspect that Misty left out GGMA's visit to 202 that night. It is suspect that TN could have arrived before 3:49 to place that call to Crystal. I am going to take the jump and say she was called prior to the 911 call. Depending on how much prior would be the key. If proven Ron and TN are lying, we still are no further ahead becasue, once again, no evidence of a crime.

If something had happened earlier and TN was called, all we know is that they lied. Lying is not a crime. LE has their hands full with this bunch.

 

[Busylady]

Could be as simple as TN and GGMS were talking and GGMS mentioned she had clothes that needed to be returned to RC - or perhaps she wasnt home at 7 pm but returned home later.

Actually I find TN's needing to call "family" to check on the kids important--why couldn't she do it if she wasn't working? Perhaps she was at another location--even if she didn't own the other property--she well could have been there with her BF--no crime in that--but why not just directly check on her grandkids herself...? JMO

 

[Whisperer]

Could also be as simple as RC was in a panic and needed somebody over at Green Lane ASAP.

 

[kiki the parrot]

If there was any serious sleuthing done on the Addys, we could be further ahead. AND yes, I am sure LE knows and has known from the start where all these people really live/reside. BUT we don't. We have taken their word. Just because an address was given to responding officers does not make it fact. It is not against the law to lie to a police officer.

I would like to know when RC notified TN something was amiss in Satsuma. Somehing may have been wrong early evening, we don't know. However; it is suspect that Misty left out GGMA's visit to 202 that night. It is suspect that TN could have arrived before 3:49 to place that call to Crystal. I am going to take the jump and say she was called prior to the 911 call. Depending on how much prior would be the key. If proven Ron and TN are lying, we still are no further ahead becasue, once again, no evidence of a crime.

If something had happened earlier and TN was called, all we know is that they lied. Lying is not a crime. LE has their hands full with this bunch.

I just wonder at what point anyone who has lied can be charged w hindering or whether since FBI has been involved if one or more could be charged w making false statements to federal investigators, is this possible or can you just tell feds anything you want? :waitasec:

"U.S. Code 18, Sec. 1001 is a criminal statute that makes it a felony to knowingly and willfully falsify or conceal a material fact or to make a false statement to a federal official. The punishment is up to five years in jail and a fine.

To be guilty of the crime of false statement you don't have to be under oath. You don't have to have received Miranda warnings. Any false statement to a federal investigator could be a criminal act."

arrot:

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

Could be as simple as TN and GGMS were talking and GGMS mentioned she had clothes that needed to be returned to RC - or perhaps she wasnt home at 7 pm but returned home later.

yeah...but according to Misty--they had just driven over to GGMS that morning for clothing...so something about these visits just strikes me as off...can't put my finger on it...but doesn't make sense...I tend to think that maybe Ron had confided the week-end situation to his mother and maybe TN had genuine concern for those kids...sadly, it turns out she was right...