The British Royal Family - news, views, clothes & shoes! #4

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It's quite an honor and huge responsibility to take over for HRH as the patron of the National Theater. It's something I hope in years to come Meghan will pour her creativity into, perhaps blending her ideals of social justice and female empowerment.

Her (it doesn't really read "peach" to me) outfit is a nice idea, but poorly executed, like many of her ensembles, IMO. But she's getting better. I love the blazer. And her earrings. She made some effort with her hair and the long sideswept fringe is pretty (I'm going through fringe issues lately lol), but she just has unruly hair and I'm not going to ding her for that. I'd give this whole look a B-. For me, as always, it's the tailoring that makes or breaks an outfit like this. She clearly has no one helping her in person, or if she does, that person just doesn't give a ****.

The whole idea is good, it just hasn't been executed very well.
You're right on about the tailoring but Jessica Mulroney isn't a detail person...LOL

Have you seen some of her get ups?? She's a shop assistant, ex-personal shopper, not someone who would be 'dressing' you.

I'm not a fan of the 'stringy' shoe look but don't really care what she wears as long as she doesnt fall over. Jessica probably ships her all kinds of freebies, her family owns a huge shoe company, Browns Shoes in Montreal.

I like Meghan and think that with a bit of time, she'll be just fine.
She seems a lot more eager to please than Kate was in the beginning.
Mind you, Meghan has been employed, lived a real life etc.

Harry needs to relax a bit, he is the lucky brother and should be able to live a wonderful life without a lot of responsibility. It was very sad to read that they've had death threats etc since marrying. I wish them the best.
 
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The whole idea is good, it just hasn't been executed very well.
You're right on about the tailoring but Jessica Mulroney isn't a detail person...LOL

Have you seen some of her get ups?? She's a shop assistant, ex-personal shopper, not someone who would be 'dressing' you.

I'm not a fan of the 'stringy' shoe look but don't really care what she wears as long as she doesnt fall over. Jessica probably ships her all kinds of freebies, her family owns a huge shoe company, Browns Shoes in Montreal.

I like Meghan and think that with a bit of time, she'll be just fine.
She seems a lot more eager to please than Kate was in the beginning.
Mind you, Meghan has been employed, lived a real life etc.

Harry needs to relax a bit, he is the lucky brother and should be able to live a wonderful life without a lot of responsibility. It was very sad to read that they've had death threats etc since marrying. I wish them the best.

We have Browns Shoes all across Canada. You are correct, Mulroney is NOT a details person. She does fashion segments on Canadian television and her style is really not for the sensibly dressed Canadian career woman. She rarely looks put together, she is a fan of ill-fitting clothes and material that drapes off your body.
Be prepared for Markle to dress like this for years.
 
  • #503
Nice color, dress might have fit 3 or 4 weeks ago.

Pregnant bodies change quickly, Meghan, size up, please!

JMHO YMMV
 
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I hope it does and you get to see it



In my opinion the only modern designer that could design works of art like Christian Dior was Oscar De La Renta before he sadly died.

It will be interesting to see how the Duchess of Sussex’s style evolves or if it does. I didn’t like the colour of today’s outfit.


BBM Thanks Greg!

Slightly O/T When I was in NYC last July I happened to see the Heavenly Bodies exhibit at the Met. Amazing! It was Awe inspiring! The vintage (70s era) Yves San Laurent gowns were stunning in their artistry. And the more current Alexander McQueens too. Custom made haute couture is incredible to see in real life. True works of art in that exhibit.

Completely agree about De La Renta. I'd add Vivienne Westwood and Coco Chanel to my top designers list too.
 
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Have you seen some of her get ups?? She's a shop assistant, ex-personal shopper, not someone who would be 'dressing' you.

Harry needs to relax a bit, he is the lucky brother and should be able to live a wonderful life without a lot of responsibility. It was very sad to read that they've had death threats etc since marrying. I wish them the best.

<snipped for brevity> Unfortunately I have seen some photos of Jessica's "style" (using the term very loosely). Hideous, mostly. The worst trends of the last 20 years. Cheap fabrics, no tailoring. JMHO

Your last comments led me to muse that Harry may give up his title in the future. I can see them packing up the family and moving to South Africa or Botswana, etc. I believe his uncle Charles Spencer (Diana's brother) has a farm in SA, IIRC.

I wish them the best too.
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Megs clothes are looking way too tight. The dress looks like it is about the split open. She cannot be comfortable in such tight clothes. Anyway, nice to see a color other than black.
 
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Megs clothes are looking way too tight. The dress looks like it is about the split open. She cannot be comfortable in such tight clothes. Anyway, nice to see a color other than black.

I've said previously that Meghan frequently looks like she was "poured into her clothes". Definitely not a pleasing sight o_O
 
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I don’t know why the Royal family Instagram allows the public to comment if it is causing so much grief.

I'm behind on reading this thread which has been set on FIRE! :)

I wanted to show support for @gregjrichards for the extremely common sense statement. There's no reason for many public figures to live half their lives on Instagram ( or in the case of some other public figures who don't always have thick skin, Twitter). Each SM platform is pretty much like the others if comments and replies are allowed.

When a person is a public figure, they assume both the benefits and the public opinion of their actions in public.
Many of us have removed ourselves from all social media because we've realized that people will post things which they'd never say to the person's face. None of us are perfect,but adults know when they've stepped over the bounds of politeness. I want a peaceful life more than I want anything else. Harry and Meghan have to figure out what their hearts truly want, and if it's even the same thing.

IF Meghan and Harry want a private life, then they'll have to retire from royal appearances and patronage of charities in the name of the Crown and the Commonwealth nations and that's so clear they should know without a doubt.

I believe that, as children, Harry and William suffered greatly from their mother's changing opinions of photographers and daily gossip rags, so one of them should recall how bitterly unhappy the issue made their mother and them, when they were with her. Harry says he doesn't recall a lot about those years, and while I expect he has very defined opinions and feelings, he might not recall which ski slope they were on when Diana had a meltdown about the press. Likely, he does recall the last summer of her life when she was calling for photo ops on the Jonikal, as they were on jet skis and he was definitely old enough to operate one and should recall the photo calls she initiated very well. The paps affected him too, as he and William have been photographed all their lives and we've seen the photos of that last summer with Diana.

Forward to today- Knowing what part the paps played in his mother's death, and most of us do think the pursuit of the couple was a contributing factor to the speeding, change of driver and car at the last minute because Diana wanted to leave the Ritz, thus Dodi wanted to leave the Ritz immediately, Harry has reason to want to leave public life. He doesn't have the right to criticize what the reporters and photographers say if it's opinion and if the photos are undoctored and not invading private space or decency.
He and his wife are quite old enough to make good decisions for a life together, including what his core family ( he, Meghan and their children) want for their futures. I don't think Harry is used to making decisions. It seems to me he wants things both ways and life doesn't work that way for celebrities, whether royal by birth, or actors by choice.

Social media is extremely fickle and cruel. I don't want any part of it. I do not believe my life is unduly influenced by what others think about any posted things. Harry has to know this himself. He's failing to face the truth. Both he and Meghan are dithering about what kind of lifestyle they want to pursue. I'd have thought this would have been decided long before the wedding. They are in their mid 30's, not their early 20's.

I'm all for them either devoting their lives to public service if they can deal with the pressures and potential dangers of being in the crowds often, but I'm also just as much for them retiring to a private lifestyle in the location of their choosing.
I'd hope they'd choose a place which would be healthy for their child, otherwise, the world is their oyster.

Harry is wealthy, having inherited what I consider to be great wealth and the opportunity to choose royal- owned property which is their private property all over the world! ( Frogmore Cottage, for example but not limited to this one house).
Or, to cut ties and buy his and Meghan's personal and permanent home.

I don't know what Charles taught them but I expect it was for both boys to grow into full roles of royal patronage and service. He's never really shown anything but allegiance to the Queen and after Harry settled down after his wild years and did take counsel from his father and likely his grandmother as well. I believe he loves both of them enough to listen to what they have had to say and what they may start to say really soon. Charles also paid a high price for not acting with dignity during his marriage to Diana. He knows the distress and destruction his actions caused his former marriage. We all do, now. No one's perfect, and I seriously doubt he's behaving in such a manner now.

I'd find a lovely place, get the powers that be to change their legal names with revised passports and documents, and totally disappear into a private life where people would more or less forget the " prince" factor after a while.

Do I think this is what Meghan wants? Not for one millisecond at this point in time. Whether or not she is able to transition to a private life remains to be seen. I believe she is the driving force, not Harry.
From a royal standpoint, Harry should be the one who decides what to do about HIS royal status and position, as he was born a Prince to the kingdom.

From a modern personal standpoint, they should decide together and stick to it, uncomplainingly. Likely, they could still change direction if their choices turn out to not suit them as a family.

JMO, of course.
 
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BBM Thanks Greg!

Slightly O/T When I was in NYC last July I happened to see the Heavenly Bodies exhibit at the Met. Amazing! It was Awe inspiring! The vintage (70s era) Yves San Laurent gowns were stunning in their artistry. And the more current Alexander McQueens too. Custom made haute couture is incredible to see in real life. True works of art in that exhibit.

Completely agree about De La Renta. I'd add Vivienne Westwood and Coco Chanel to my top designers list too.

That must have been an interesting exhibit I saw some footage of it when Anna Wintour was being shown around.

<snipped for brevity> Unfortunately I have seen some photos of Jessica's "style" (using the term very loosely). Hideous, mostly. The worst trends of the last 20 years. Cheap fabrics, no tailoring. JMHO

Your last comments led me to muse that Harry may give up his title in the future. I can see them packing up the family and moving to South Africa or Botswana, etc. I believe his uncle Charles Spencer (Diana's brother) has a farm in SA, IIRC.

I wish them the best too.
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I honestly can’t see that happening. Prince Charles wants the two Dukes and Duchesses to have prominent roles in the future Monarchy. I think Prince Harry takes the role seriously and is loyal to his Father and Grandmother.

Megs clothes are looking way too tight. The dress looks like it is about the split open. She cannot be comfortable in such tight clothes. Anyway, nice to see a color other than black.

I agree with you Kensie.
 
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Don't throw rocks at me but Meghan looks a total mess in today's picture. Cut the hair. I cannot believe I am saying this but the messy bun looks better than the top bun. What is with the coat being too short. She has really aged (so have I). On a scale of 1 to 10 this is a -1.
 
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It's not my favorite (those caps on the sleeves!!!) but I liked the coat better with the poppy accent on Remembrance day. A brooch (on loan from HRH perhaps) would have been a nice touch.

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I get the black though, as it seems this was more of a business meeting, with a bunch of academics. Black is also more forgiving in photographs.

I hate to think what she's doing to her back long-term with those stilettos.
 
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Don't throw rocks at me but Meghan looks a total mess in today's picture. Cut the hair. I cannot believe I am saying this but the messy bun looks better than the top bun. What is with the coat being too short. She has really aged (so have I). On a scale of 1 to 10 this is a -1.
BBM Is that the bottom of the high-low hem of the dress hanging out under the coat? ARGH!!!!!:eek:

From the link in the OP: She teamed the outfit with a black pleated dress with a high-low hemline for her first official visit with the ACU in her new role as Patron of the international organisation, which is dedicated to building a better world through higher education.
 
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...Do I think this is what Meghan wants? Not for one millisecond at this point in time. Whether or not she is able to transition to a private life remains to be seen. I believe she is the driving force, not Harry.
From a royal standpoint, Harry should be the one who decides what to do about HIS royal status and position, as he was born a Prince to the kingdom.

From a modern personal standpoint, they should decide together and stick to it, uncomplainingly. Likely, they could still change direction if their choices turn out to not suit them as a family.

JMO, of course.

<respectfully snipped>

Your post is astute, intuitive, and brilliantly written. Perhaps you should forward it to Harry and Meghan. I doubt they've given so much thought to their future.
 
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BBM Is that the bottom of the high-low hem of the dress hanging out under the coat? ARGH!!!!!:eek:

From the link in the OP: She teamed the outfit with a black pleated dress with a high-low hemline for her first official visit with the ACU in her new role as Patron of the international organisation, which is dedicated to building a better world through higher education.

Yes, I'm an awful dresser, and I don't think I would ever wear a dress that hangs out from underneath the coat like that one.

Meghan Markle Steps Out in Her First Top Knot — and It's Giving Major Cinderella Vibes!

I'm trying to find a picture of the dress after she takes off her coat, but I have not been able to find it. The bottom of it appears to be extremely sheer.
 

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Yes, I'm an awful dresser, and I don't think I would ever wear a dress that hangs out from underneath the coat like that one.

Meghan Markle Steps Out in Her First Top Knot — and It's Giving Major Cinderella Vibes!

I'm trying to find a picture of the dress after she takes off her coat, but I have not been able to find it. The bottom of it appears to be extremely sheer.

Either she has a horrible sense of style or the person who is helping her hates her.
 
  • #520
Yes, I'm an awful dresser, and I don't think I would ever wear a dress that hangs out from underneath the coat like that one.

Meghan Markle Steps Out in Her First Top Knot — and It's Giving Major Cinderella Vibes!

I'm trying to find a picture of the dress after she takes off her coat, but I have not been able to find it. The bottom of it appears to be extremely sheer.

Good grief!!

This isn't rocket science. Assuming there isn't a suitable coat that's long enough for the dress, change dresses!

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