The British Royal Family - news, views, clothes & shoes! #9

[maggieg]

Why declare war on the press who've just spent seven days saying great things about them?...

I have a suspicion that Harry's statement was written before the tour expecting some negative press given the amount of articles that would be written about them and then when no negative or mean press came he/they were a bit flummoxed and decided to release it anyway. Complete conjecture but I think this was always the plan to release it during the tour to get maximum press coverage (yes I see the irony)

 

[Keine Engel]

I have a suspicion that Harry's statement was written before the tour expecting some negative press given the amount of articles that would be written about them
... Complete conjecture but I think this was always the plan to release it during the tour to get maximum press coverage (yes I see the irony)

Hmmm...That's a very interesting thought.

So now I wonder now if someone's maybe screwed-up by releasing it now or they didn't have any plan to 'hold' in place?
Bad mis-communication all round?

Harry & Meg are still out of the U.K. right?

 

[Keine Engel]

PIERS MORGAN: Stop playing the victim, Harry - you and Meghan brought the negative press on yourselves, and just when you turn things around, you ruin it all​

Cont'd...
In the next part of his statement, Harry really upped the pity ante, invoking the memory of his late mother Princess Diana.

Wow.
I understand why Harry dislikes the press after what happened to his mother, truly I do.

Yes, she was the subject of huge press attention, but speaking from personal experience as a newspaper editor at the time...
But let's be very clear - the press didn't kill Diana, a speeding drunk-driver killed Diana.

And if she hadn't recklessly abandoned her usual royal protection officers and drivers, she'd probably still be alive today.

She was the biggest star in the world, and would happily and regularly collude with the papers when it suited her...

But with all due respect to Ms Markle, she's not in the same league as Diana in terms of fame.

So for Harry to compare them in this way is both wrong and slightly distasteful.

- I gotta agree with him, his constantly using Diana to evoke sympathy needs to stop, here it is just wrong -​

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He added that he has been 'witness to her private suffering for too long' and 'to stand back and do nothing would be contrary to everything we believe in.'
Hmmm...

But what I think of her personally is irrelevant to the situation that actually sparked this battle with the media, and that is the breakdown of her relationship with her father...

I've interviewed Thomas several times and found him to be a very normal and nice, if naïve, guy who just had no idea how to handle the massive vicarious fame that instantly came his way...

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There's no doubt that Thomas Markle made a big mistake in stunting photos,
...as he has admitted himself.

Thomas Markle gave Meghan's letter to the Mail on Sunday because he wanted to correct what he believed was misleading criticism of him in People magazine from Meghan's friends...

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- BAD, bad move Harry - ​

And he should be allowed the freedom of speech to defend himself...

Judge him all you like for it, but imagine how tough the past few years have been for him too?

Thomas has been no angel in this family wrangle, but nor is he the devil.

Rather then help him, they savagely punished him for a silly mistake,

Rather than going to war with the press in this absurd manner, Harry should clamber down off his hysterical hothead high horse and repair the real running sore causing Meghan's distress – by making peace with her father.

See you guys later, I'm off to the 'comments section' now...lol

Daily Mail

 

[1&2&3]

It must have been years ago, however, IIRC, at one point the Queen had a huge say as to what was printed concerning the Royals.

We weren’t as privileged to know as much as we do now. Of course, it may be due to the technology in our world also.

It was mentioned that Charles and William did not know about the article on Harry and Meghan. Did the Queen know?

 

[Elley Mae]

Prince Harry 'ignored advice of senior aides and didn't tell Prince William or Prince Charles his plans' before launching extraordinary attack on the press

Prince Harry 'ignored advice of senior aides and didn't tell William or Charles about press attack' | Daily Mail Online

 

[Sherwood Park]

Well it was obvious to just about everyone Harry's little speil was gonna be taken as nothing short of a declaration of all out war by the press...
Oh hell this is gonna be good

PIERS MORGAN: Stop playing the victim, Harry - you and Meghan brought the negative press on yourselves, and just when you turn things around, you ruin it all
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O.k. so...
I was expecting it to a big lol rant but, somewhat worryingly, I once again find myself agreeing with him!

I should point out that the article is NOT a major 'bash the Sussexes' attack, it's actually very mild in my opinion, he does make a lot of good points so it is worth a read regardless of .... well it's Piers

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(Edit: I cut out all the info you had here)

What did irritate me was the hysterically over-the-top statement that the Sussexes decided to release to accompany their lawsuit.

It is honestly one of the most extraordinary rants I've ever read from anyone in the Royal Family, and one of the most inexplicable.
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(Edit: I cut out all the info you had here)

This seems like another catastrophic PR failure to me,..

And let's be brutally frank: they've brought most of that criticism on themselves.

Their constant hypocritical preaching over things like the environment has rightly grated with people...

(Edit: I cut out all the info you had here)
They see themselves as poor, downtrodden, massively misunderstood victims of horrible press 'bullies'.

Oh please. Give me a bloody break, your royal highness!

(Edit: I cut out all the info you had here)

Daily Mail

I have been so busy I haven't read about or paid attention to their tour of SA, I'm glad it has been a success so far considering Prince Harry's love of Africa.

BUT, I have to agree with Piers Morgan and every other sensible person who realizes that Harry was out of line to sue and to write his over the top letter to the press.

It's simple, Meghan needs to stop reading the tabloids and as a celebrity she already understands how these entertainment papers work. She is not new at this.

Could you imagine if the Queen sued every time they wrote a trashy story about her and her family? To be a royal you need to be think skinned and learn how to go about your business w/o worrying what newspaper rags are writing about you.

Harry is an overly sensitive person and he really needs to get a handle on his emotions. This is not how I expect a Royal family member to behave in response to trash talk. Thank goodness he's not a politician.

 

[Keine Engel]

What do you think of this? Demands of Prince Charles

Prince Charles has his shoelaces ironed every morning

The Prince of Wales, 69, has reportedly earned a special nickname among the staff at Clarence House: The Pampered Prince. That’s because, ...
Charles needs help doing just about everything.
“His pajamas are pressed every morning, his shoelaces are pressed flat with an iron, the bath plug has to be in a certain position and the water temperature has to be just tepid,” Princess Diana’s former butler,Paul Burrell, revealed...
It's Absolute...

Do these look like the shoes for which the 'Pampered Prince' would have the laces ironed each day?

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The Prince said his waste not want not attitude could save the planet. He said the clothes had been repeatedly patched up and was still going strong.

Charles said: 'I have always believed in trying to keep as many of my clothes and shoes going for as long as possible (some go back to 1971 and one jacket to 1969!) - through patches and repairs - and in this way I tend to be in fashion once every 25 years.

While it is unclear which of the prince's shoes have stood the test of time, the royal has consistently worn a mahogany pair of brogues from 1971 onward.

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To my knowledge 'brogues' like these would usually have 'round' laces anyway?

This isn’t the first time that Prince Charles’ odd behavior has made headlines.
Apparently Princess Diana’s ex brings his own toilet seat with him when he travels, changes outfits five times a day, only recently discovered what Saran wrap is and never shows up to a dinner party without his own food.

Well someone came right out & asked Charlie about that rumour;

Earlier in the seven-day visit he turned the air blue as a cheeky Aussie asked on radio if he took a personal toilet seat on tour.

Radio listeners heard him reply: 'My own what? Oh, don't believe all that crap.' - lol -

The rumour was published in a new biography,

Everything in that article is totally contradictory to the man we all know Prince Charlie, supposedly, is

I mean he spends most of his free-time in his garden, no doubt in his wellies.

I had no idea what 'saran' wrap was until very recently, (within past 12 months) it's only due it being mentioned a few times, possibly a case on here? which niggled at me till I asked Grand Master Googley.

He's English - It's Cling-Film!

I would LOVE him to turn up at mine with his own food, dinner party, birthday party, rave or not, whenever.

(ps. If you're ever reading this Dukey Roth can you bring 1 of these with you, pretty please) ​

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Codswallop
Prince Charles reveals he still wears a pair of shoes bought in 1971

 

[Elley Mae]

Video shows Prince Harry reprimanding a Sky News reporter for asking him a question during Malawi hospital visit - just hours before the royal launched attack on the media

Prince Harry reprimands a Sky News reporter in Malawi | Daily Mail Online

Sky News royal reporter Rhiannon Mills asked the Duke of Sussex an unscheduled question as he got into a car after a visit to the Mauwa Health Centre on Tuesday.

Harry, 35, had told a group of young people to 'hold on to your dreams' while talking to them as he visited the clinic during his ten-day tour of southern Africa.

But as he was being led away into a waiting vehicle by palace officials, Ms Mills asked him: 'That short conversation, what do you hope to achieve through it?

He replied: 'What? Ask them', pointing back towards the hospital – but the reporter added: 'Is that why it's important for you to come and talk to them?'

Harry appeared to become frustrated with Ms Mills and gestured for her to move away from him as he got into the car, saying: 'Rhiannon, don't behave like this.'

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[Simply Southern]

What I don't get about the statements Harry has put out over the years over the press and Meghan is why is it always him defending her and never her standing up for herself? The first one when they were dating was understandable as she was relatively unknown, it was a joint statement by William and Harry if I recall correctly.

Maybe this was all his idea and shes an unwilling participant but it seems odd that its forever people like her friends, make up artist, Harry defending her. Does it play better if someone else is defending you rather than defending yourself? A joint statement would have seemed more apt in this situation IMHO

IMHO they've opened up a bag of worms,I guarantee you the Daily Mail will have all the anonymous "friends" who contributed to the People magazine article where the letter was mentioned deposed and used as witnesses and they will have to disclose a lot of private details about Meghan. They'll probably be able to depose anyone who was working for Harry and Meghan at the time. I bet they're going to get more stories out of this than any fine that could be imposed is worth. The DM have said they're going to defend it vigorously

If this was in the US courts it could be worth a lot of money but I doubt even if they're successful it will be a lot of money. The UK courts are more generally more generous than France but if you look at the Kate Middleton topless shots mentioned above, all that was awarded was €100k in damages

Edit: By a lot of money I mean a lot of money for the Royals not for normal people. IMHO its a gamble in a case that isn't cut and dry considering they'll be liable for the Mails costs if they lose which could be several hundred thousand

Totally agree. Such a shame the tour was ruin by Harry's announcement. If Megan is suing , why would she not issue the statement?

Harry and Meghan chose not to meet with or include her father during the engagement or wedding. He was told to keep his mouth shut, like a servant who had no voice or importance other than to show up and walk her down the isle. Harry's...Do as you are told attitude. I've wonder why Harry would treat a total stranger this way, based only on information from Meghan.

Yes, Thomas did some bazaar things, but never ever did Harry and Meghan meet with or embrace him as family.

Big mistake !!! IMOO.

She chose to write a letter, knowing full and well printed material could be released in the media, especially based on previous events. Why not a phone call.. two way communication. That's how problems are solved. JMHO, she set this up.

After all the good PR, lowering herself to appearing in off the rack dresses, giving up private jets, they do this. Is it to say Meghan is at risk and he needs to protect her?

I wish the press would just leave these two alone. They want good PR, then do good things.

Imho....

 

[enelram]

Totally agree. Such a shame the tour was ruin by Harry's announcement. If Megan is suing , why would she not issue the statement?

Harry and Meghan chose not to meet with or include her father during the engagement or wedding. He was told to keep his mouth shut, like a servant who had no voice or importance other than to show up and walk her down the isle. Harry's...Do as you are told attitude. I've wonder why Harry would treat a total stranger this way, based only on information from Meghan.

Yes, Thomas did some bazaar things, but never ever did Harry and Meghan meet with or embrace him as family.

Big mistake !!! IMOO.

She chose to write a letter, knowing full and well printed material could be released in the media, especially based on previous events. Why not a phone call.. two way communication. That's how problems are solved. JMHO, she set this up.

After all the good PR, lowering herself to appearing in off the rack dresses, giving up private jets, they do this. Is it to say Meghan is at risk and he needs to protect her?

I wish the press would just leave these two alone. They want good PR, then do good things.

Imho....

good post.

I don't follow their travails as closely as most of you, but a couple things stand out to me.

For Meghan, who was a career woman, making her own money, living on her own, to now suddenly become the 'damsel in distress' and
cower in the corner while her big, brave protective husband chides the press and files
suit on her behalf, is looking to me like something she has been behind all along.

Might she be concerned she could end up penniless like Sarah F. and be thrown out onto the street after the novelty of the marriage has worn off?

I wouldn't be surprised if all the media attention is simply her way of insuring the name MM has marketable value to it. Sort of like financial security.
I do believe much of Prince Harry's actions are
at her behest. She's running the Sussex show,
not Harry. moo.

 

[human]

So William can sue over photos but Harry cannot say anything about Meghan.

Why didn’t Kate sue? Too helpless?

Meghan is getting the vile , ridiculous things said about her as is shown by the crazy things said about Charles.

But why should anyone accept things like that. Are the Royals not human beings?

The other Royals are much older and lived in a time before the internet. They got a slower and less intense introduction to vile publicity.

Just because someone is a father does not mean one has to accept abusive disgusting behavior. Thomas Markle is no father to Meghan. He is an opportunistic con man. Goodbye to that toxic poison

 

[Simply Southern]

So William can sue over photos but Harry cannot say anything about Meghan.

Why didn’t Kate sue? Too helpless?

Meghan is getting the vile , ridiculous things said about her as is shown by the crazy things said about Charles.

But why should anyone accept things like that. Are the Royals not human beings?

The other Royals are much older and lived in a time before the internet. They got a slower and less intense introduction to vile publicity.

Just because someone is a father does not mean one has to accept abusive disgusting behavior. Thomas Markle is no father to Meghan. He is an opportunistic con man. Goodbye to that toxic poison

Respectfully, Meghan does have the right to sue the newspaper in the UK. This would not be possible in the US.

I mainly question, why she would write a letter to man who had caused her so much trouble? Why put her thoughts in writing, when a phone call could have mended fences and stopped Thomas from future abuse? The only reason/motive I see, is knowing her thoughts would be shared publicly. Yes, history repeats its self with Thomas and family.

How can they speak of empathy, kindness and forgiveness, when they do not apply within her family?

JMHO...

 

[human]

Respectfully, Meghan does have the right to sue the newspaper in the UK. This would not be possible in the US.

I mainly question, why she would write a letter to man who had caused her so much trouble? Why put her thoughts in writing, when a phone call could have mended fences and stopped Thomas from future abuse? The only reason/motive I see, is knowing her thoughts would be shared publicly. Yes, history repeats its self with Thomas and family.

How can they speak of empathy, kindness and forgiveness, when they do not apply within her family?

JMHO...

Meghan’s father apparently was her father for years and apparently she had a relationship with him . When one has a relationship with someone, ,one assumes that the person is a decent human. Why would Meghan think that her father would do what he has done? Originally he was to come to the wedding.

It is probable that he had plenty of things that signaled what kind of person he is but it takes a long time to admit it to one’s self. Look how many women stay in abusive relationships for years.

Meghan can forgive him but that does not mean she has to have anything to do with him. No one owes toxic parents, friends, or siblings anything. People need to take care of their mental health and being in a toxic relationship is not helping only enabling the toxic person to continue with their behavior

 

[maggieg]

Why didn’t Kate sue? Too helpless?

She did sue, the case was in her name as it was her privacy that was invaded. This case will be in Meghan's name too given its her copyright being asserted

Just because someone is a father does not mean one has to accept abusive disgusting behavior. Thomas Markle is no father to Meghan. He is an opportunistic con man. Goodbye to that toxic poison

Agree completely which is why I don't understand this case as its bringing him up and giving his story oxygen again

 

[gregjrichards]

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The Prince of Wales, 69, has reportedly earned a special nickname among the staff at Clarence House: The Pampered Prince. That’s because, ...
Charles needs help doing just about everything.
“His pajamas are pressed every morning, his shoelaces are pressed flat with an iron, the bath plug has to be in a certain position and the water temperature has to be just tepid,” Princess Diana’s former butler,Paul Burrell, revealed...
It's Absolute...

Do these look like the shoes for which the 'Pampered Prince' would have the laces ironed each day?

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The Prince said his waste not want not attitude could save the planet. He said the clothes had been repeatedly patched up and was still going strong.

Charles said: 'I have always believed in trying to keep as many of my clothes and shoes going for as long as possible (some go back to 1971 and one jacket to 1969!) - through patches and repairs - and in this way I tend to be in fashion once every 25 years.

While it is unclear which of the prince's shoes have stood the test of time, the royal has consistently worn a mahogany pair of brogues from 1971 onward.

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To my knowledge 'brogues' like these would usually have 'round' laces anyway?

This isn’t the first time that Prince Charles’ odd behavior has made headlines.
Apparently Princess Diana’s ex brings his own toilet seat with him when he travels, changes outfits five times a day, only recently discovered what Saran wrap is and never shows up to a dinner party without his own food.

Well someone came right out & asked Charlie about that rumour;

Earlier in the seven-day visit he turned the air blue as a cheeky Aussie asked on radio if he took a personal toilet seat on tour.

Radio listeners heard him reply: 'My own what? Oh, don't believe all that crap.' - lol -

The rumour was published in a new biography,

Everything in that article is totally contradictory to the man we all know Prince Charlie, supposedly, is

I mean he spends most of his free-time in his garden, no doubt in his wellies.

I had no idea what 'saran' wrap was until very recently, (within past 12 months) it's only due it being mentioned a few times, possibly a case on here? which niggled at me till I asked Grand Master Googley.

He's English - It's Cling-Film!

I would LOVE him to turn up at mine with his own food, dinner party, birthday party, rave or not, whenever.

(ps. If you're ever reading this Dukey Roth can you bring 1 of these with you, pretty please) ​

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Codswallop
Prince Charles reveals he still wears a pair of shoes bought in 1971

I wish a software company would develop a Paul Burrell block so I never saw anything about the man. He is disgraceful he has made a career out of working for the royals and Princess Diana. I wish he had signed a non-disclosure agreement and been taken to court years ago. The royal family must bitterly regret hiring him.

 

[Herat]

Yeah, but after 125+ years that's not really 'News' to anyone thou.

The Daily Mail’s ‘historic 1914 edition’ is not quite as billed...​

The Daily Mail's front page today urges readers to turn inside to read a "historic 1914 edition of the Daily Mail."

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What they find, however, are not replicas of the pages that the Mail actually published on 29 June 1914 but modernised versions, with different layouts, up-to-date typefaces and pin-sharp restored photographs.

...I'm not certain whether the Mail wishes its readers to think they are seeing and reading the real paper it produced a century ago or whether its editors imagine its readers are sophisticated enough to catch on that it's not.

I think they should have owned up to it being entirely bogus. That said, I concede that the modern make-over was enjoyable to read.

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The actual Daily Mail front page from 29th June 1914

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On a more serious note, wouldn't there be copyright issues (or something similar) if they published it un-edited?

● Daily Mail/Mail on Sunday* are the masters of the media manipulation art. Everyone knows this, don't you think they're also masters of the CYA art as well?
Their lawyers most certainly are.

● Unless the letter was stolen from Megs possession then it's tough luck, (I think?)
The minute that letter, in it's stamped addressed envelope, was posted she no longer has control of what happens to it or any information in it.

● What's with all this 'Suing' nonsense?
Someone should let Meg know that's not really a British thing

● The Royal Family DO NOT SUE the media

-Unless it's necessary in serious/legal type issues-

FFS they're butt-hurt coz theyz not getting the most 'likes? Really...

This is all just embarrassing now

* The Mail on Sunday ...launched 1982 by Lord Rothermere.
Like the Daily Mail it is owned by the Daily Mail and General Trust (DMGT), but the editorial staffs of the two papers are entirely separate.

OMG
Megan’s letter is nothing like the truly cringe-worthy stuff that was released about Charles during the days he was estranged from Diana.

Megan sounds very Hollywood-y and Harry sounds like a manipulated man when you consider how stoic the Royal Family has been about the ubiquitous tabloids and their blather.

Bad move by the Sussexes, methinks. Only binds them publicly into the sticky web of tabloid fodder. Do they not see this won’t stop anything, only make them more fodder as pariahs?

I do recall they have several PR companies working for them, both British and American. Why bother paying them if you wont take their advice? They were doing a good job with the PR on this trip, but now it’s been totally overshadowed and will be furthemore only a footnote.

 

[gregjrichards]

Prince William and Kate Middleton delight fans with cards thanking them for their 'kind thoughts' on Prince George’s sixth birthday

Prince William and Kate Middleton send thank you cards to well-wishes on Prince George's birthday | Daily Mail Online

 

[oviedo]

Kate’s dress is so dowdy. Worse than a mother of the bride dress.

She is 37 years old, not 73

Her longer demure dresses remind me so much of early Princess Diana dresses after marriage in the 80's - although her heels were low but Kate's are high. I think she is dressing like a future queen. Elizabeth's dresses were conservative in her younger years too. JMO

 

[Herat]

Her longer demure dresses remind me so much of early Princess Diana dresses after marriage in the 80's - although her heels were low but Kate's are high. I think she is dressing like a future queen. Elizabeth's dresses were conservative in her younger years too. JMO

I think in the context of visiting a conservative Muslim spiritual leader at his Aga Khan Centre, I think it is entirely respectful and appropriate.

And I think it’s a lovely gown.

And I see nothing wrong with wearing a long dress at anytime.

 

[Herat]

The Sussex’s seemed to be able to stay out of trouble when they socialized well with the Cambridges and other members of the royal family.

Doesn’t sound like Markle took the Queen’s hint about associating with Sophie of Essex.

Isolating themselves from The Firm is just a bad idea.