The British Royal Family - news, views, clothes & shoes! #9

[maggieg]

How come Wills supports a Brummie team anyway?

He's in it for the emotional rollercoaster!
This is why Prince William supports Aston Villa

Prince William said: “A long time ago at school I got into football big time. I was looking around for clubs. All my friends at school were either Man United fans or Chelsea fans and I didn’t want to follow the run of the mill teams.

“I wanted to have a team that was more mid-table that could give me more emotional rollercoaster moments.

“Aston Villa’s always had a great history. I have got friends of mine who support Aston Villa and one of the first FA Cup games I went to was Bolton v Aston Villa back in 2000. Sadly, Villa went on to lose to Chelsea.

“It was fantastic, I sat with all the fans with my red beanie on, and I was sat with all the Brummie fans and had a great time.

“It was the atmosphere, the camaraderie and I really felt that there was something I could connect with.”

I question the timing. And, not telling anyone. —Just winging it? I doesn’t feel well thought out. They need a new PR firm.

Don't think they need more PR people, maybe they need less or to just listen to the ones they're paying right now. IMHO the Africa tour up to the statement was a major PR success and I presume was orchestrated through a joint effort of their people and the home office, they need to listen to the people who put the tour together, they know what they're doing

 

[Keine Engel]

Some good quotes...
Much more re Prince George in the article—
In 2015, a letter from Kensington Palace was published warning paparazzi photographers about going to "extreme lengths to observe and monitor" the children - in particular Prince George.

The stuff about the kids is just gross imo

In 2015, a letter from Kensington Palace was published warning paparazzi photographers about going to "extreme lengths to observe and monitor" the children - in particular Prince George.

To be fair it specifically states this WAS NOT the British press;

A letter from Kensington Palace
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...While it thanked British media for respecting their privacy and refusing to "fuel the market for the unauthorised photos", it said photographers are still trying to "covertly capture images of him [George] to sell to the handful of international media titles still willing to pay for them".

The vast majority of publications around the world – and all British publications – have refused to fuel the market for such photos.

The Prince of Wales & The Duchess of Cornwall

 

[maggieg]

'Xenophobia' yes, that is exactly how I would describe it.

I don't know if its even xenophobia, I think above all else its just a fear of change or dislike of the change thats happened. If you think of it, apart from her and Peter Philips selling their wedding photos to Hello, I've never heard anyone say anything disparaging about Autumn Philips or when Beatrice dated the American guy for years, Dave something.

 

[Herat]

I have no problem if Harry wants to express his feelings about the press. They are intrusive.

I question the timing. And, not telling anyone. —Just winging it? I doesn’t feel well thought out. They need a new PR firm.

Eta: The press has drastically changed since Princess Diana’s time. Major royal story on east coast USA news for last two days was lawsuit, not Africa. —News can get to Mars, circle the moon a few times, and back in a hot minute. So, it was a blundered opportunity. It shouldn’t have been their farewell to Africa story.

Jmo

Hurrah, hurrah.

M & H put their own petty interests and his emotional issues out ahead of all those people and causes they said they cared about on their African trip. It makes them look like immature, self-centered hypocrites and shams.

He was even unneccesarily rude to an established UK journalist before the news hit.

 

[AllyBeeUK]

I don't know if its even xenophobia, I think above all else its just a fear of change or dislike of the change thats happened. If you think of it, apart from her and Peter Philips selling their wedding photos to Hello, I've never heard anyone say anything disparaging about Autumn Philips or when Beatrice dated the American guy for years, Dave something.

I think the difference with Meghan is that she comes with all the Hollywood bells and whistles. People talk about change but I'm not sure exactly what changes they've made other than repeatedly ignoring protocol. In all honesty and with no disrespect, they are so low down the pecking order they are in no position to be changing anything. The Queen has worked tirelessly for over 60 years to establish a respected monarchy that serves the British people well. I really think they should respect that or leave. Princess Anne's children have the right balance I believe, they live their own private lives whilst still maintaining good relationships with their family. It can be done.

Hurrah, hurrah.

M & H put their own petty interests and his emotional issues out ahead of all those people and causes they said they cared about on their African trip. It makes them look like immature, self-centered hypocrites and shams.

He was even unneccesarily rude to an established UK journalist before the news hit.

BBM: Gosh, that was awful. I felt so sorry for her, she was just doing her job. How dare he!

 

[gregjrichards]

Why I shared Meghan's 'hurtful' letter: Duchess's father Thomas Markle reveals he kept note secret for SIX MONTHS and never intended share it until HER friends spoke to a US magazine about it and 'misrepresented' its contents

Duchess's father Thomas Markle reveals he kept note secret for MONTHS and never intended share it | Daily Mail Online

Please know I’m only posting this because of the lawsuit. I wish Thomas would keep quiet and stop causing his daughter further public distress.

 

[Keine Engel]

...Can you imagine how excited people in South Africa, Angola, Botswanna, and Malawi were for their visit and some world-wide exposure for their projects and good works?

Likewise, they subverted the goals of the UK Foreign Service who spent all this time organizing this trip, which had heretofore gone quite well.

To me, this is unforgiveable. And yes, Meghan was in on it, too. Nothing Harry does is done without her advice, IMHO.

This was a huge mistake in timing and sensitivity. And it's perplexing as to how a couple paying for several PR advisors and PR companies of both UK and American origin can keep bobbling things. I think these two are heading into Edward and Simpson behavior.

And that it isn't it, they were getting a lot of positive reports the whole tour until...
Any good they had done has already been obliterated.
Even if the legal papers were filed due to some deadline there was absolutely NO reason the releasing of the 'Statement' could not wait (maybe if he calmed his little self down first he've realised how dumb a move it is?) No one would have bat-an-eyelid at Megs lawsuit. This is ALL down to Harry's childish rant.

I kinda disagree about Meg, I think she did go along with all, more than likely encouraged, this but to be fair she doesn't really have a clue. She should NOT naively listen to Harry's advice thou, she an idiot if she doesn't get that by now. If she doesn't like the criticisms then why isn't she asking or more to the point listening to any advisers who've had years of experience in British ways & laws? The lawsuit is a big fail but no big deal in the long run, eveyone would just put it down to 'it's an American thing'

But Harry must surely should realise his little temper tantrum is only gonna cause antagonism with the Media, who no matter what the outcome now, are not gonna be playing ball with him long term?

For a very, very long time they're gonna be watching & jump on every little thing he does, and not in a positive way.

I don't think I have ever known the entire British Media stand so united, from the Sun, Daily Mail right thru to the Telegraph & Times (even the Financial Times! )

But at the end of the day all he's done is pretty much destroy Meghan chance of ever being accepted as one of the 'Royal Family'

 

[gregjrichards]

I think the difference with Meghan is that she comes with all the Hollywood bells and whistles. People talk about change but I'm not sure exactly what changes they've made other than repeatedly ignoring protocol. In all honesty and with no disrespect, they are so low down the pecking order they are in no position to be changing anything. The Queen has worked tirelessly for over 60 years to establish a respected monarchy that serves the British people well. I really think they should respect that or leave. Princess Anne's children have the right balance I believe, they live their own private lives whilst still maintaining good relationships with their family. It can be done.



BBM: Gosh, that was awful. I felt so sorry for her, she was just doing her job. How dare he!

The Duke of Sussex was out of order speaking to the Sky News Reporter like that. He could have found a more diplomatic and respectful way to answer her question as she was only doing her job.

 

[maggieg]

Why I shared Meghan's 'hurtful' letter: Duchess's father Thomas Markle reveals he kept note secret for SIX MONTHS and never intended share it until HER friends spoke to a US magazine about it and 'misrepresented' its contents

Nothing new from TM, as predicted this case is giving him oxygen again, just like the people magazine article did.

What the Mail are focusing on is interesting, it shows the strategy that they will probably take when it comes to litigating this, they will have all of the friends who spoke to the magazine as witnesses and quiz them about Meghan's involvement in the article etc.

The letter was forgotten about, when Thomas Markle complained a month or two ago about no baby photos of Archie, people either didn't care or were on Meghan's side because its obvious hes toxic.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think this is all because of the private jet criticism, IMHO thats the straw that broke Harrys relationship with the media for good, since he can't sue for that he's suing for anything that he can sue them for

 

[Kensie]

Ellen DeGeneres Applauds Prince Harry and Meghan Markle for Taking Legal Action Against Press

Well, I am so relieved that Ellen approves. Good grief. I guess Hilary and Michelle will be jumping on the bandwagon. Ellen, go away please.

 

[maggieg]

Love this video of George celebrating
Boldmere Road on Twitter

 

[Keine Engel]

I don't know if its even xenophobia, I think above all else its just a fear of change or dislike of the change thats happened. If you think of it, apart from her and Peter Philips selling their wedding photos to Hello, I've never heard anyone say anything disparaging about Autumn Philips or when Beatrice dated the American guy for years, Dave something.

I don't think there's any real 'dislike/disparaging' even, it's just simply that she's 'American' not with any negative meaning to it, in other words, she's NOT British So all these articles which keep bring 'racism' up have completely misunderstood. Colour/Race is a non-issue, they're 'confusing what would be better described as 'Xenophobia' than 'racisim' in respect of what we're trying to explain (but not used in any 'anti' kinda way?)

My God I've confused myself now

 

[Gardenista]

Just saw the video of Harry disrespecting the reporter. His sarcastic comment before his mean comment give a real sense of who he is as a person and it's not good.

 

[gregjrichards]

“Scammers sending letters 'from the Queen' saying she needs £19billion for Brexit

EXCLUSIVE: The bogus letter pretends to be from a senior aide of her majesty and is even stamped with a fake royal seal, as it asks for cash to be sent using electronic currency bitcoin”

Scammers sending letters 'from the Queen' saying she needs £19billion for Brexit

I really hope nobody is foolish enough to fall for this.

 

[gregjrichards]

In a remarkable show of modern manners, Princess Beatrice is inviting her fiance’s former lover to her wedding – and wants her little boy to be the best man.

Beatrice’s husband-to-be, Italian property developer Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi, was previously engaged to Dara Huang and the pair have a two-year-old son, Wolfie.

After the couple split, Edo, 36, began dating Beatrice, 31, and the Princess became a ‘stepmother’ to the boy, as I revealed in August.

Princess Bea invites fiance's ex to her wedding and wants love rival's little boy to be best man | Daily Mail Online

 

[human]

I have no problem if Harry wants to express his feelings about the press. They are intrusive.

I question the timing. And, not telling anyone. —Just winging it? I doesn’t feel well thought out. They need a new PR firm.

Eta: The press has drastically changed since Princess Diana’s time. Major royal story on east coast USA news for last two days was lawsuit, not Africa. —News can get to Mars, circle the moon a few times, and back in a hot minute. So, it was a blundered opportunity. It shouldn’t have been their farewell to Africa story.

Jmo

I doubt if many are interested in Africa. Many people think Africa is a country.

A lawsuit is much more tantalizing. Good works?Not so much

 

[Keine Engel]

Why I shared Meghan's 'hurtful' letter: Duchess's father Thomas Markle reveals he kept note secret for SIX MONTHS and never intended share it until HER friends spoke to a US magazine about it and 'misrepresented' its contents

Please know I’m only posting this because of the lawsuit. I wish Thomas would keep quiet and stop causing his daughter further public distress.

Well this is;

The British Royal Family - news, views, ...

I don't think you can really blame Thomas, this is old news it only 'headlines' now coz of the lawsuit.

Which no one would have cared about as it's not gonna go anywhere in a U.K. Court.

I'm confused how exactly they think The Sun or Mail have managed to survive this long, after they've been publishing other 'private leaked' letters & diary extracts all these years, without knowing the ins & outs of copyright laws?

I'm pretty sure Harry's rant actually includes the fact they didn't 'reproduce the actual letter' in full which WOULD have been infringement. They published 'extracts' (which obviously is the same as editing?)

British Copyright Council
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Information: Letters
As letters are normally sent by the author to a third party, the owner of the physical object i.e. the letter, may not be the copyright owner...

However, copyright does not prevent the recipient of a letter from showing the original letter to another third party as this does not involve reproduction.

These are circumstances where permission is not needed – for example, if the use is for the purpose of criticism, review or quotation, or for the purpose of reporting current events...

The exception for criticism, review or quotation requires that the material used was already available to the public

So the fact is the 'letter' & it's content being discussed in the People article, with Meghans alleged consent, it covers the 'available to the public'?
The People article is definitely a clear CYA for The Sun & Mail with;
'the purpose of reporting current events'

And now we have The Sun throwing down the gauntlet

'LEAKED' LETTER CLAIM: Meghan Markle ‘invaded her OWN privacy by leaking letter to dad at centre of court fight to pals’​

THE Duchess of Sussex may face claims she invaded her OWN privacy if her newspaper fight ends in court...

In court, privacy arguments could centre on the People story in February when five pals were cleared to give Meghan’s side of her fall-out with Thomas...

But it is suggested she put it in the public domain herself by telling friends about it and giving them the nod to go public.

The pals then briefed journalists at celebrity magazine People...
going into details about the letter.

One refers to the letter, saying she...

And, if the Duchess is called as a witness in court, she may have to swear on oath she did not give her friends permission to discuss the letter...

The case could mean Thomas, who has not met grandson Archie, is called to give evidence.

Royal author Patrick Jephson said: “This kind of litigation is easy to start but nobody can predict the path it will take or the damage it will cause.”

I think this is making it very clear The Sun are prepared to take this to a Court of Law & WILL put both Meghan & Thomas on the stand under Oath
The Sun

 

[Keine Engel]

...Well, I am so relieved that Ellen approves. Good grief. I guess Hilary and Michelle will be jumping on the bandwagon. Ellen, go away please.

 

[maggieg]

Wow, the hacking case just got a lot more interesting! They're saying that Harry is suing for Diana's phone being hacked in the 90's among other things and if its able to be proven that evidence was destroyed the historic nature of the claims will be allowed.

WORLD EXCLUSIVE: Prince Harry Set to Claim Princess Diana was Hacked by The Sun AND The Mirror - which then 'Covered Up' — Byline Investigates

Prince Harry: tabloids hid hacking crimes for 20 years

"Legal experts have suggested the duke would have a problem bringing the claim. Under the Limitation Act, there is a six-year window from when a claimant becomes aware of the privacy breach to bring a claim."
"However, it is clear that the duke’s claim extends at least a decade beyond that 2007 case. As with the other group claims, the duke alleges evidence was destroyed and concealed and so any limitation defence would fail under Section 32 of the Act if it were shown to have concealed wrongdoing."
"“This is far more serious than just phone-hacking because these allegations involve perverting the course of justice, perjury and fraud against senior executives and senior editors,” a source familiar with the claim explained. This would shift the focus away from the actions of individual journalists to the higher echelons of the newspaper organisations."

"In 2015, the Crown Prosecution Service said there was “no evidence” NGN had deleted emails to pervert the course of justice. Both News UK and Reach UK, owner of the Mirror, declined to comment."

 

[Keine Engel]

Wow, the hacking case just got a lot more interesting! They're saying that Harry is suing for Diana's phone being hacked in the 90's among other things and if its able to be proven that evidence was destroyed the historic nature of the claims will be allowed.

WORLD EXCLUSIVE: Prince Harry Set to Claim Princess Diana was Hacked by The Sun AND The Mirror - which then 'Covered Up' — Byline Investigates

Prince Harry: tabloids hid hacking crimes for 20 years

"Legal experts have suggested the duke would have a problem bringing the claim. Under the Limitation Act, there is a six-year window from when a claimant becomes aware of the privacy breach to bring a claim."
"However, it is clear that the duke’s claim extends at least a decade beyond that 2007 case. As with the other group claims, the duke alleges evidence was destroyed and concealed and so any limitation defence would fail under Section 32 of the Act if it were shown to have concealed wrongdoing."
"“This is far more serious than just phone-hacking because these allegations involve perverting the course of justice, perjury and fraud against senior executives and senior editors,” a source familiar with the claim explained. This would shift the focus away from the actions of individual journalists to the higher echelons of the newspaper organisations."

"In 2015, the Crown Prosecution Service said there was “no evidence” NGN had deleted emails to pervert the course of justice. Both News UK and Reach UK, owner of the Mirror, declined to comment."

Voicemails from, or about, the now 35-year-old Duke of Sussex were also likely to have been left on the phones of Princess Diana’s confidantes and staff, which being targeted by Mirror and News of The World journalists...

The generic allegations in documents due to be served by the Duke of Sussex accuse The Sun and The Mirror of behaving more like organised crime groups than newspapers.

And here we have is, at last, WHO Harry's real target is,;

like that wasn't already glaringly obvious
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Piers Morgan and Rebekah Brooks, two of the most powerful figures in British media, have already been named as alleged conspirators...