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Oh, not for another decade or longer, one most sincerely hopes and prays. Remember, the Queen Mum lived to age 101:). I'd love to have those longevity genes, as they are truly beyond remarkable.
Those genes missed George VI, however.
 
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You haven't been around Meghan constantly, or at all. You've seen carefully selected photos picked out of thousands if not tens of thousands of still shots of Meghan while she is on a public tour meant to bring good will and publicity to the British monarchy. As the public is very excited and interested in her pregnancy, photographers for news organizations are going to select the shots where she's touching her belly or that focus on her body.

Every single pregnancy announcement or weekly pregnancy update post from every person I know has a happy and excited mom cradling a barely there bump.

That's true, I've never been around Meghan and don't know her, as neither do you or anyone else posting on this site. I only see what is published. I don't find occasionally touching a pregnant belly a problem. Not in the least. I also don't find it odd to not see a woman touching her own pregnant belly. That pictures happen to have been taken on tour in which Meghan has been usually touching her belly (and we're talking dozens of different outfits so it's not all on the same day) leads one to believe she is often touching her belly. It's something people (not just here on WS) have noticed and commented on. I noticed it as well and at some point I found it a bit much, which is my opinion.
 
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Those genes missed George VI, however.

No anti- smoking meds, anti-smoking laws or push back then. No real diagnostic tools for early cancer detection ( not that it probably would have mattered).
No chemotherapy to speak of, and definitely no immunotherapy for lung cancers as it is emerging right now as first line treatment for most cancers .

IF he hadn't smoked, he might have lived to a very old age. But, I suspect the Queen's longevity comes through her maternal DNA. :)
 
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JMO, on the subject of " Royal pregnancies" in general.
The world watched Duchess Catherine " grow" her three beautiful children, and now the world is watching Duchess Meghan " grow" her sweet baby.

The perception of " bumps" is likely not exactly what's happening with either one of them, because all we do see are photographs. The photographers take about 1000 shots and 2 get published. IF the article is about how tiny one of their bumps is, then the photo shown is one taken at an angle where the signs of pregnancy barely show.

If the story has the slant of " She touches her bump lovingly very frequently", then the 1000 photos taken will have 2 selected for publication which show the Royal Duchess ( either one of them) seeming to cradle or touch her abdomen.

Me? I was a very healthy young RN who had complication after complication. I had hyperemesis graviderium, multiple IV fluids, one rare ominous non-genetic, non- maternal factor after the other develop to the point that I wanted to hide being pregnant.

My husband knew nothing about pregnancy and was not very supportive, except in his everlasting love for me, which continues after his death, I believe. I did not ever touch my bump or even look at it, and I knew the outcome was going to be utter disaster for both of us ( baby and I) through intuition although I had an outstandingly wonderful OB team at one of the best maternal- child hospitals in a state full of wonderful OB care.
The doctors and their helpful nurse midwives were also my co-workers so I likely had care comparable to what's given in the Lindo Wing.

Because of the complications, though, I never bonded well with my unborn child. Sometimes, mothers just KNOW.
I see the loving gestures as being extremely positive and beneficial to the mother's state of emotional and possibly physical health.
I wish I could have had that bond. I tried, but even with hundreds of people in two states praying for my little family, things didn't go well from first trimester to emergency C section.

I'm so thrilled to see women who are healthy like I was ( although I was 12 years younger than Meghan, so in my prime of child-bearing window) embracing their bodies and their unborn babies. I know, from research, that they are bonding with the fluttering, starting to move and grow child in a very positive way. It makes me more confident that the pregnancy will have a happy course and the best possible ending for mother and Royal baby. JMO, but from my heart and soul.
 
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Victoria Arbiter explains: What Harry and Meghan will call baby Sussex.

Under the current rules, and for the duration of the Queen’s reign, the Sussexes’ children would be styled as those of a duke. A firstborn boy would be known as, the Earl of Dumbarton, one of the subsidiary titles bestowed upon Prince Harry by the Queen on his wedding day. A little girl would be Lady (fill in the blank) Mountbatten-Windsor and any subsequent boys would be Lord (fill in the blank) Mountbatten-Windsor.
 
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JMO, on the subject of " Royal pregnancies" in general.
The world watched Duchess Catherine " grow" her three beautiful children, and now the world is watching Duchess Meghan " grow" her sweet baby.

The perception of " bumps" is likely not exactly what's happening with either one of them, because all we do see are photographs. The photographers take about 1000 shots and 2 get published. IF the article is about how tiny one of their bumps is, then the photo shown is one taken at an angle where the signs of pregnancy barely show.

If the story has the slant of " She touches her bump lovingly very frequently", then the 1000 photos taken will have 2 selected for publication which show the Royal Duchess ( either one of them) seeming to cradle or touch her abdomen.

Me? I was a very healthy young RN who had complication after complication. I had hyperemesis graviderium, multiple IV fluids, one rare ominous non-genetic, non- maternal factor after the other develop to the point that I wanted to hide being pregnant. I did not ever touch my bump or even look at it, and I knew the outcome was going to be utter disaster for both of us ( baby and I) through intuition although I had an outstandingly wonderful OB team at one of the best maternal- child hospitals in a state full of wonderful OB care.
The doctors and their helpful nurse midwives were also my co-workers so I likely had care comparable to what's given in the Lindo Wing.

Because of the complications, though, I never bonded well with my unborn child. Sometimes, mothers just KNOW.
I see the loving gestures as being extremely positive and beneficial to the mother's state of emotional and possibly physical health.
I wish I could have had that bond. I tried, but even with hundreds of people in two states praying for my little family, things didn't go well from first trimester to emergency C section.

I'm so thrilled to see women who are healthy like I was ( although I was 12 years younger than Meghan, so in my prime of child-bearing window) embracing their bodies and their unborn babies. I know, from research, that they are bonding with the fluttering, starting to move and grow child in a very positive way. It makes me more confident that the pregnancy will have a happy course and the best possible ending for mother and Royal baby. JMO, but from my heart and soul.
I’m so sorry. *hug*
 
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I read about this a few weeks ago. :)
" Earl of Dumbarton" doesn't really have a nice flow to it but it may be important in Great Britain.
I know it's obvious that I'm a dyed in the wool Anglophile, but I LOVE Mountbatten- Windsor as their Lordship/ Ladyship.
 
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I’m so sorry. *hug*

SeekingJana, hugs from me as well! I have tears in my eyes right now remembering my one early miscarriage, and I can turn my head just a little to see photographs of very healthy children.

Sincere condolence for your immense loss, SeekingJana.
 
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Whenever this thread pops up I am convinced that the Queen must have died.

There is a thread called " breaking news" that you can subscribe to. I'm sure it would make its way there if that happened. Putting the link here as some folks may not know about this thread.

***BREAKING NEWS!***
 
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Shout out to CoverMeCagney: Thank you for this thread. It's the first forum I read when I visit Websleuths. If I lived closer, I'd take you to afternoon tea. Bettys York
 
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Princess Beatrice looks blooming beautiful with her vibrant flower crown as she joins newly married Eugenie at lavish Mayfair restaurant

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....-joins-Eugenie-lavish-Mayfair-restaurant.html

Princess Beatrice wearing Gucci whilst dining with Princess Eugenie last night.
 
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Shout out to CoverMeCagney: Thank you for this thread. It's the first forum I read when I visit Websleuths. If I lived closer, I'd take you to afternoon tea. Bettys York

Ooh wouldn't that be lovely, Bette!! Haven't been to Betty's for ages even though there's one just a few miles away in Ilkley.
 
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SeekingJana, hugs from me as well! I have tears in my eyes right now remembering my one early miscarriage, and I can turn my head just a little to see photographs of very healthy children.

Sincere condolence for your immense loss, SeekingJana.
Thank you. I hope I didn't turn a happy thread about the BRF into a sad thread, but I think it's SO important for all of us to support expectant moms as they work their way through pregnancies. No one knew what I was going through because I worked in a busy ICU and I had to be " on" all the time for those 10 hours every evening/ night.
I was blessed to have had a child and I did get to know the joy of them as a baby and young child.
The child I am referring to grew up very well, is successful, extremely intelligent, but of the generation which has a lot of young adults who don't want to bond with their parents as adult to adult. They like being " islands", thus our meaningful interaction was when offspring was so sweet and young and loving. :)
 
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SeekingJana, I am so thankful you let us know that you did have another baby.

Believe me when I say those “islands” are too familiar. In my world, it only happens to the mother of sons. It is a horrible way of life. Where did this thinking come from!
 
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SeekingJana, I am so thankful you let us know that you did have another baby.
Believe me when I say those “islands” are too familiar. In my world, it only happens to the mother of sons. It is a horrible way of life. Where did this thinking come from!

I'm going to reply as an on-topic post because I think it's important to consider parenting and " adult child-ing" as it likely does have implications regarding the Royal Family.
I am too close to my own situation to have a well- formed response, so I'm going to say what I believe I see in the heirs to the British throne ( and one spare :)).
I read an article today which stated that Charles felt unloved and unmothered as a child and never truly outgrew some of the hurt or maybe resentments towards siblings. It's in the Daily Mail, but they likely purloined it from another news source in G.B.

We have ample photos showing that little Charles was loved, although his mum and dad had enormous responsibilities to the Monarchy shortly after his birth.. Also, that Princess Anne, only 3 years younger, has never seemed to show one inkling of the " I'm an island' kind of mindset.

I'll tell you how I think it develops, both from watching and listening to my own child and also from my professional viewpoint.
There are some children who, for one reason or another, have an acutely sensitive personality and develop a very early feeling of imbalance in their lives. Maybe it's a matter of the first stage in emotional growth which is " Trust vs. Mistrust".

When there's this sense of " All's not right in my world" ( usually " world" means what the child can see, feel and hear day to day) they develop insecurities. NO parent is perfect. No perfect set of parents has ever lived, but most children do idealize their parents due to both survival needs and bonding/ love needs. If the child is an introspective, possibly somewhat moody or brooding child, they may compare their world to that of their peers and feel both superior in some ways and inferior in others, thus, the imbalance persists.

Obviously, we know why Charles and his offspring would feel superior. They have been the most famous " celebs" in a greater portion of the world than any other currently living persons for all their lives, excepting the Queen, most likely. The British Commonwealth is huge and they have been set apart as sovereigns in training/ waiting ( and eligible bachelors) for almost all their non-chosen celebrity lives.
Plus, in the boys, there's remnants of the resentment that their mom had for the press, although she would have been crushed had she been even slightly ignored once during her years as Charles's wife, truth be told. God rest her beautiful soul.

I think the " You are special but we have other obligations" happened to both Charles and Diana in their childhoods, likely because their parents did not have a daily regular routine when each was very young, then Diana believed her mother up and left her. She didn't realize what happened in the courts with the parents' divorce, she only knew that Frances was there one day and gone the next.

When they met, each of them recognized the loneliness in the other's heart. Diana said in Andrew Morton's book ( either version 1 or 2) that although she was so shy, she was prompted by his sad face to ask Charles about his mentor and great uncle,
Lord Dickie Mountbatten, and about Charles's feelings after his death in 1979 in the IRA assassination. She never got over the loss of her mother from her life, and suspected Charles missed his great uncle in a similar way. I think she was quite right. In fact, I think Lord Mountbatten's death was the likely reason Charles started actively looking for a wife to produce the royal heir. Sometimes, it takes a tragic death to fully appreciate life.

The difficulty comes when the child is set apart from other children in one way or another. I know how my child was set apart and it was seen as a very positive thing, but it changed a young child's world view.

In the case of Charles, it was because he was born to reign.
In the cases of William and Harry, I think they have finally both admitted to having deeply troubled teen years after their mom died and Charles was fairly permissive and fairly " lost" as a single parent to 2 teen boys. Harry has expressed more feelings of loneliness and feeling " different from others" than William. Commentary and common sense says this is because William was considered to be so special as the future King. Harry may not have had the same amount of personalized attention within the Royal Family that William had from what I've read just recently. Plus, they aren't clones of each other, so their emotional make up is different. Harry seems to be more sensitive and anxious in general than William. William maintains his mother's later distance from the press as he can, and I think it's very healthy for him as he and Catherine are growing their family.

It's been reported that the brothers will likely be going their separate ways with different staff members and different events in the future. I hope this will be mutually beneficial to all of them, and that they will have personal time with their families together at KP. I hope that the connecting door between the apartments #1A and #1 isn't plastered over, just maybe locked from little childrens' fingers for a bit... :)
The Royal Family's future doesn't look nearly as happy or healthy when I consider Harry and William not collaborating on small things, and now, with their wives, and soon, children.
JMO, of course..
 
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Queen 'invites Meghan's mother Doria to spend Christmas with Royal Family at Sandringham' - an offer never made to Kate's relatives

Queen 'invites Meghan's mother Doria to spend Christmas with Royal Family' | Daily Mail Online

Well they wouldn't want Meghan jetting off to America for the festivities. Tricky one, when you only have one parent (I know she has two, but...). OMG CHRISTMAS WITH THE FLIPPIN' QUEEN, Doria must be pinching herself. I wonder if she might move over here to be nearer the grandchild.
 
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