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[BetteDavisEyes]

With Meghan and Harry moving away from London, might they have plans for their baby to be born closer to their new home instead of the hospital where Kate delivered her three children?

 

[Curious.1]

With Meghan and Harry moving away from London, might they have plans for their baby to be born closer to their new home instead of the hospital where Kate delivered her three children?

That's an interesting point. It is a bit of a drive if she goes into labour quickly. I can't see her giving birth at Heatherwood or Wexham Park but the thought of it is making me chuckle - not exactly great hospitals for a photo op afterwards! I'm guessing Lindo at the first twinge but it will be interesting to see if they deviate from that.

 

[Curious.1]

The kids and I were in Windsor so decided to look for Frogmore House. We saw the Queen's deer, the Queen's cows, decided to look on Google Maps as we were clearly nowhere near, and ended up at Windsor Farm Shop where we could see absolutely nothing! It is apparently 0.6 miles from the farm shop but the wall around the shop is tall. But we did come away with scones, lemon curd, and clotted cream so all was not lost. Frogmore Cottage would seem to be very private so that will be nice for their family.

 

[La Louve]

With Meghan and Harry moving away from London, might they have plans for their baby to be born closer to their new home instead of the hospital where Kate delivered her three children?

Will the renovations on Frogmore Cottage be done by then? Perhaps the plan is to physically move out there after the baby arrives. I would think since Lindo Wing is set up security-wise - without going to additional expense for that at another hospital - that Meghan will give birth there.

 

[JDG]

Its only an hours drive, with a police escort a lot quicker I'd think.
I suspect that she will go to Lindo wing as well.

Is it true that she wants an 'at home' birth in water? Don't think the Queen will let that happen to her lineage.

 

[La Louve]

Its only an hours drive, with a police escort a lot quicker I'd think.
I suspect that she will go to Lindo wing as well.

Is it true that she wants an 'at home' birth in water? Don't think the Queen will let that happen to her lineage.

FWIW, several hospitals in my locale offer hot tub options in their birthing centers, just for water labor and/or delivery.

I nearly edited my previous post to add my musings whether a home birth might be Meghan's preference. Which I can't imagine the queen would go for.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Googled "Meghan home birth" and found several article from various sources. Here's one:

Meghan Markle May Break a Major Royal Baby Tradition

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

New on my Xfinity homepage: Meghan Markle may reportedly have a home birth—which would break years of royal tradition

Given that Meghan is 37 years old, I wonder how safe a home birth would be?

 

[JDG]

That baby 'belongs' to the Monarch. Unless the Queen okays it, Meghan will have to give birth with assistants i.e. MidWives/doctors

England has a long history of using warm water bathing during labour, of course they have tubs but Meghan might be told to do it under supervision.
Probably a good idea too.

 

[SandyQLS]

Hilarious! Good news, bad news, just gossip, the Royals sell newspapers. I have a question for the Brit posters here: Do you think Harry & Meghan are being relegated to Frogmore Cottage, sort of shoved over there? It seems all fine to have more house space and grounds, more privacy, too. But Windsor is only the Queen's sometime-weekend getaway; she lives at Buckingham weekdays. Charles lives in London at Clarence House, and everyone else lives at Kensington. After the baby is born, will Meghan feel left out of the excitement, out of the loop, over at Frogmore? The selection of Frogmore Cottage seems to imply "you are an outsider" given its history - does Meghan know this?

Just curious about the Brit perspective.

 

[JDG]

Well, my take on it is certainly different from the Daily Mail.
I think they're being given a choice of country homes and have chosen Frogmore for its privacy and spaciousness.

PH, the party prince, probably wants to entertain a lot and that's not really possible at KP except in small doses.

All other couples in the RF have country places, why not the Sussexs'?

They want to raise this child(ren) in privacy and they'll have lots of that at Windsor too.

It's only an hour from London, not a terrible drive for visitors.

But, if I was trying to sell papers, I might tell tall tales.

 

[human]

There is no way she would be allowed a home birth. At 37 she is considered an older mother which means she is more at risk. Yes, 37 is considered older by the medical profession.

 

[SandyQLS]

Well, my take on it is certainly different from the Daily Mail.
I think they're being given a choice of country homes and have chosen Frogmore for its privacy and spaciousness.

PH, the party prince, probably wants to entertain a lot and that's not really possible at KP except in small doses.

All other couples have country places, why not the Sussexs'?

They want to raise this child(ren) in privacy and they'll have lots of that at Windsor too.

It's only an hour from London, not a terrible drive for visitors.

But, if I was trying to sell papers, I might tell tall tales.

Thanks for your reply! I'm old, so I remember Koo Stark gracing the cover of The Sun. I am sensing a tabloid redux here - Diana was perfect, everything she did was perfect; that "chunky" "commoner" Fergie could do no thing right. Now it's perfect Kate and brash foreigner Meghan, with the same older brother & younger brother story. The DM cannot decide which juicy rumors to publish, even though their stories cancel each other out.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

There is no way she would be allowed a home birth. At 37 she is considered an older mother which means she is more at risk. Yes, 37 is considered older by the medical profession.

I tend to agree with this, but maybe at my age (69 next month), maybe I'm out of the loop and don't know what might well be the new normal.

 

[JDG]

There is no way she would be allowed a home birth. At 37 she is considered an older mother which means she is more at risk. Yes, 37 is considered older by the medical profession.

That used to be true, not sure if its true in 2018 though.

40+ years ago, most mothers were in their 20s, early 30s.

Now, most are mid 30s and up due to financial reasons, educational aspiration and starting careers.

I wonder if the doctors have re-considered the 'age barrier' of 35?

It used to be said that older mothers were more likely to have genetically damaged children due to 'old' eggs but I don't think it was ever true, more of a 'bad science' thing. Statistically, its not true.

Seeing as its a Royal baby, I suspect there will be 'rules' about the birth.

 

[mickey2942]

Geriatric Pregnancy: Is Getting Pregnant After 35 Risky?

Over age 35, "Prima Gravida" or "Geriatric Pregnancy"! Nice.

 

[Betty P]

Ugh. Honestly, who on earth would want to marry into a royal family? Christmas ruled by a 90 year old Grandmother? What to eat, when to eat, what to wear, when to open gifts...sounds like Christmas in Hell to me.

As for the cost of fixing up an old castle to make it a cozy place to live, I bet it is costing a fortune. Probably needs duct work, heating, upgrade on electrical, plumbing, I have done that on an old house, it would have been cheaper to bulldoze it and build new. But imagine the uproar if Harry and Meghan had done that?!

As for the "tension", who really loves their in-laws? You didn't pick these folks, but you are stuck hanging out with them for life. You just try to make it brief and as unmiserable as possible.

True, but these are things MM knew going into the marriage. I'm wondering if she had the mistaken notion that she was going to completely revamp the BRF and the monarchy? There's a big difference between the BRF opening their arms to a new wife who is American, a commoner, bi-racial and divorced and assuming that all the protocol, traditions, etc. will be completely overhauled.

From the unsourced and sourced news stories, the impression is that Meghan and Kate had some kind of disagreement involving children. Recall the recent article where she announced her children wouldn't be raised as "spoiled"

Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan’s Baby ‘Won’t Be Spoiled’

The story wasn't refuted, so assume it was one leaked by Meghan or her PR staff.

Since MM doesn't have any children yet, it's assumed she's alluding to someone else's children being "spoiled".

She wants her little ones with Harry, 34, to live a far more regular life than their cousins, Prince George, 5, Princess Charlotte, 3, and Prince Louis, 6 months.

“Meghan will take her kids on a subway. They’ll have chores, and jobs one day,” Scobie tells Us. “They won’t be spoiled.”

BBM

Yeah, I'm reading that as a direct shot at William and Kate's kids. Sounds like an ongoing feud that Meghan took public by leaking this snipe to the celeb news media. Apparently, the employees of the BRF are now doing some leaking of their own.

The article is also pretty specific in demeaning the traditional rules and environment for raising kids in the BRF.

Their children will be "hard working global citizens"
Well, their children will be pretty far down the hierarchy in the BRF, so it seems unlikely they'll be traveling the world as ambassadors in adulthood. This may indicate another problem Meghan has in adjusting to life in the BRF - she's very competitive with other women. That's to be expected in Hollywood, where actresses must compete with each other for good roles, but it will definitely cause problems in the BRF. No matter how much she competes, how much positive PR she generates, Harry's rank (as well as MM's and their children) in the line of succession isn't going to change. William will be King some day and Kate will be Queen. MM can't change that, but I don't think she's accepted that reality.

Also notice Harry is no longer defending her to the news media on these gossipy stories.

 

[JDG]

^^^ Does anyone recall Kate being exactly the same way as a 'newbie'??
Remember when she was not getting on with the York sisters? Kate thought they should curtsy to HER as she was married to William.

She thought she was running the show til the Queen was forced to release a 'code of order' or whatever it was called, putting the blood princesses ahead of her. The only time they have to show reverence is if William is present, if not, Kate must show reverence to them.

We must remember 'waity Kate', the dolittles, etc because she's had seven + years to adjust and Meghan has been there 5 minutes.

Also, Meghan was the captain of her own ship for years, hard to step back into antiquity and a rule book from the 1400s.

She will either adjust or leave. I still cross my fingers that it will work out over time.

Perhaps that's another reason to go to Windsor, most brothers do not live next door to one another after marriage....why them??

And, like it or not, her children will be 'spoiled'. They are royal children, it defines being spoiled I think. lol

 

[Lilibet]

True, but these are things MM knew going into the marriage. I'm wondering if she had the mistaken notion that she was going to completely revamp the BRF and the monarchy? There's a big difference between the BRF opening their arms to a new wife who is American, a commoner, bi-racial and divorced and assuming that all the protocol, traditions, etc. will be completely overhauled.

From the unsourced and sourced news stories, the impression is that Meghan and Kate had some kind of disagreement involving children. Recall the recent article where she announced her children wouldn't be raised as "spoiled"

Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan’s Baby ‘Won’t Be Spoiled’

The story wasn't refuted, so assume it was one leaked by Meghan or her PR staff.

Since MM doesn't have any children yet, it's assumed she's alluding to someone else's children being "spoiled".



BBM

Yeah, I'm reading that as a direct shot at William and Kate's kids. Sounds like an ongoing feud that Meghan took public by leaking this snipe to the celeb news media. Apparently, the employees of the BRF are now doing some leaking of their own.

The article is also pretty specific in demeaning the traditional rules and environment for raising kids in the BRF.

Their children will be "hard working global citizens"
Well, their children will be pretty far down the hierarchy in the BRF, so it seems unlikely they'll be traveling the world as ambassadors in adulthood. This may indicate another problem Meghan has in adjusting to life in the BRF - she's very competitive with other women. That's to be expected in Hollywood, where actresses must compete with each other for good roles, but it will definitely cause problems in the BRF. No matter how much she competes, how much positive PR she generates, Harry's rank (as well as MM's and their children) in the line of succession isn't going to change. William will be King some day and Kate will be Queen. MM can't change that, but I don't think she's accepted that reality.

Also notice Harry is no longer defending her to the news media on these gossipy stories.

Note who is speaking in the article linked about Meghan and Harry’s children not being “spoiled”:

Royal contributor Omid Scobie reveals exclusively in the new issue of Us Weekly that the pregnant Suits alum, 37, hopes to “bring up children who know the values of normal things in life.” She wants her little ones with Harry, 34, to live a far more regular life than their cousins, Prince George, 5, Princess Charlotte, 3, and Prince Louis, 6 months.

“Meghan will take her kids on a subway. They’ll have chores, and jobs one day,” Scobie tells Us. “They won’t be spoiled.”
Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan’s Baby ‘Won’t Be Spoiled’

Omid Scobie is just a reporter who has covered the young Royals for seven years. This is his opinion. He is not quoting anyone, but is implying that he was told this by Meghan and Harry. Is there an actual interview with Meghan published somewhere? I think he is probably expanding on a general comment one of them may have made (or not), and has turned it into a veiled insult to Kate and William to stir the pot. I don’t believe any of this negative stuff.

I really don’t think Harry or William and their wives are going to confide their feelings or plans for child rearing to the press. After the way their mother was treated, the princes walk a very careful line with the press.

JMO

 

[JDG]

Thanks for your reply! I'm old, so I remember Koo Stark gracing the cover of The Sun. I am sensing a tabloid redux here - Diana was perfect, everything she did was perfect; that "chunky" "commoner" Fergie could do no thing right. Now it's perfect Kate and brash foreigner Meghan, with the same older brother & younger brother story. The DM cannot decide which juicy rumors to publish, even though their stories cancel each other out.

Me too! I thought she was quite pretty and very in love with Andrew.
Oh well, on really slow days the DM occasionally runs pictures of her now.
I still think she's a looker, although a bit down on her luck.

She looks good for her age and has stories to tell but doesn't, faithful and loyal.