The British Royal Family

[HongKongPhooey]

I was a teacher and we learned that a step in reading is learning how to rhyme. Children would learn nursery rhymes.
After my tour in England, I never looked at nursery rhymes the same again. They are not for children.

This article gives a very abbreviated version of what the rhymes are about.

The Dark Origins of 11 Classic Nursery Rhymes

Interesting the link to royalty in so many of them.

We sing "atishoo atishoo" in ring of roses - not ashes - still meant to signify a plague symptom ofc.

 

[Herat]

I think Harry wants privacy at least.

Does he realize his wife doesn’t AND probably intends to make money off of selling photos of him and his child?

 

[squareandrabbet]

My guess is they know the address of the mansion and have staked it out so that when her vehicle leaves they follow ? And then when they park and get out they see this and do the same ? Maybe one or two runs ahead to get the face shots? I watched the documentary about Diana in her own words and I was shocked at the lengths the photographers went to -
I think she wants to look like she’s a normal mom walking her dogs with her baby - but I think it was set up For them to get these pics
JMO

I'm shocked at normal paparazzi picture scenes. The flashes are blinding, so much so that it's like daylight even in the pitch black (remembering people tracking Britney Spears after she shaved her head). I don't know how people can function in those situations - I'd trip and fall over my own feet.

 

[human]

Interesting the link to royalty in so many of them.

We sing "atishoo atishoo" in ring of roses - not ashes - still meant to signify a plague symptom ofc.

do children in England learn nursery rhymes and do they learn the meanings or do they simply repeat the words like in the US?

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I'm shocked at normal paparazzi picture scenes. The flashes are blinding, so much so that it's like daylight even in the pitch black (remembering people tracking Britney Spears after she shaved her head). I don't know how people can function in those situations - I'd trip and fall over my own feet.

Yep, it must be very disorientating - even blinding - and also very intimidating, plus trying not to pull an ugly face with all those flashes going off! Hard enough when you want it (ie on the red carpet) but quite an ordeal when you don't.

 

[squareandrabbet]

I don't follow many celebrities but Alec Baldwin's wife Hilaria posts a picture every morning on instagram with her outfit for the day and asks all of the celebrity magazines to use her photo instead of buying photos of her from the paparazzi. She said they still follow her sometimes but it has gotten much better for her since anyone writing a story about her has lots of free photos to choose from! I thought that was a creative way to deal with the issue.

This article is humor, but it's pretty good IMO:

Star trix nix pix

Hire security: David and Victoria Beckham, as well as Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, are among the hardest celebrities to get pictures of. The Beckhams travel with a phalanx of SUVs that block the view of restaurant entrances. Cruise’s SUV has a dividing wall and window curtains. Also, he can melt film with his mind.

Try decoys: The important part is the decoy car. “Sienna Miller was leaving Villa, and they had the car she came in pull up to the side. And then she ran out the front into a different car,” Sun says. He got fooled. But when Leonardo DiCaprio got a guy who looked like him to run out of a club with his hat pulled low, Leo-style, no one followed because they hadn’t been primed with the decoy car. “Without the car, no one was ready,” Sun says. “Very few times they will care enough to run after someone to see who it is.” Another tip, apparently, is to run.

The same-clothes trick doesn’t work: At the height of the Jen-Brad-Angelina scandal, Jennifer Aniston kept wearing the same outfit to deliberately bore magazine editors who couldn’t confirm they were new shots. After the first “Harry Potter,” Daniel Radcliffe did it too. Oh, those innocent times. Now, Sun says, “they’ll still use the pictures, but they’ll talk smack about you for wearing the same clothes over and over.”

 

[CoverMeCagney]

do children in England learn nursery rhymes and do they learn the meanings or do they simply repeat the words like in the US?

Yes we learn them as cute little songs, no history involved at that young age. I heard about the Ring o' Roses thing as a teen, but some of those meaning in the link are new to me. One of my kids came home from pre-school singing Baa Baa Pink Sheep.

 

[ZsaZsa]

‘Meghan wanted a deferential press – we said no’

That's exactly what she wants.

 

[momrids6]

I can't figure out if PH knew this all along or he just believed MM when she told him it would be better in NA. I know he has lived a sheltered life, but how could he not know?

The answer is in this post, imo ...rsbm

?
and I don't really want to have to go into a thread titled The Narcissist Duchess and Her Doormat Prince

 

[Steft50]

Yes, Fergie wrote Budgie the Helicopter, and Charles wrote The Old Man of Lochnagar. Queen Victoria wrote The Adventures of Alice Laselles when she was just 10 years old and apparently produced a total of 141 volumes of journals from the age of 13.

*Laselles, actually Lascelles, is one of the royal cousin surnames. They live in Harewood House in Leeds near me. The state rooms are as flowery and ornate as you'd expect, but the old kitchen "below stairs" is my favourite room - huge fireplaces/stoves, a solid oak table, hanging copper pans etc, plain and spacious and just wow!

View attachment 227228

View attachment 227229


View attachment 227230

View attachment 227231

(pics from google images)

In love with that kitchen! Thanks for posting the pics.

 

[Yvettea]

Is any one here qualified to determine the mental health of a person. I’m speaking of professional qualifications. And have you examined the person in question?

If not everyone should avoid speaking of anyone as anything other than normal. Or should we be free to speak of one another as mentally ill?

IMHO

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Harry and Meghan claim paparazzi 'stalked' them within hours of their reunion in Canada

The incident will raise questions about the couple’s decision to quit the UK due to the “bullying” British tabloids when they were rarely pursued by paparazzi photographers due to a longstanding agreement between the palace and newspaper editors not to publish any intrusive images following the death of Diana, Princess of Wales.

Now no longer members of the royal family, nor subject to the royal rota system which provides the UK media with lawfully obtained imagery - the couple are effectively being treated as ‘celebrities’ in North America - which one paparazzo told the Telegraph was “like the wild west compared to Britain”.

Sources close to the celebrity picture agencies, which are both based in Los Angeles but have photographers based around the world, insist that the Duchesses’ bodyguards were aware the latest pictures were being taken in a public place.

Yup. As royals they were protected. If they really thought North American media would be better, they're in for a rude awakening.

I do believe that MM at a minimum was aware of their presence. No one walks through the woods with a giant smile on their face.

I'm kind of glad she's holding Archie so low and off to one side, her face is more visible that way. It's nice to see her smiling and happy.

 

[Trudie]

Or should we be free to speak of one another as mentally ill?

I have never been on a WS thread that shied from diagnosing the suspect (criminal cases) as narcissistic, psycho or sociopath. I wondered how one would know if a person suffers from such conditions but reached the conclusion many are capable of diagnosing based on the crime (I guess). I’m unable to, personally.
If you are referring to PH &/or MM, Harry has stated
he suffers from mental health issues & is concerned about MM’s mental health. Moo

Prince Harry fast-tracked plans as he feared his wife would have a 'meltdown' | Daily Mail Online

link claims PH feared MM would experience “meltdown”.....

this link is informative as well:

Meghan Markle's Concern About Prince Harry's Mental Health Revealed: Why Doing This One Thing Is 'Damaging'

 

[Mominmi]

Yes, Fergie wrote Budgie the Helicopter, and Charles wrote The Old Man of Lochnagar. Queen Victoria wrote The Adventures of Alice Laselles when she was just 10 years old and apparently produced a total of 141 volumes of journals from the age of 13.

*Laselles, actually Lascelles, is one of the royal cousin surnames. They live in Harewood House in Leeds near me. The state rooms are as flowery and ornate as you'd expect, but the old kitchen "below stairs" is my favourite room - huge fireplaces/stoves, a solid oak table, hanging copper pans etc, plain and spacious and just wow!

View attachment 227228

View attachment 227229


View attachment 227230

View attachment 227231

(pics from google images)

What an amazing kitchen!

 

[ZsaZsa]

What an amazing kitchen!

Keep the kitchen, I'll take the copper pots!

 

[Gardenista]

Thomas Markle fears Meghan and Prince Harry won't see him until he 'is lowered into the ground' | Daily Mail Online

 

[gregjrichards]

He also says that he's going to start defending himself, and will take payment for interviews he does - including the Channel 5 chat.

He said: "I'm going to defend myself and I'm going to be paid for it. I don't care. At this point, they owe me. The Royals owe me. Harry owes me, Meghan owes me. What I've been through I should be rewarded for.

"My daughter told me that when I reach my senior years she'll take care of me. I'm in my senior years now, it's time to look after daddy."

Thomas Markle accuses Harry of being 'way too sensitive' and says royals owe him

Good grief!

 

[Gardenista]

He also says that he's going to start defending himself, and will take payment for interviews he does - including the Channel 5 chat.

He said: "I'm going to defend myself and I'm going to be paid for it. I don't care. At this point, they owe me. The Royals owe me. Harry owes me, Meghan owes me. What I've been through I should be rewarded for.

"My daughter told me that when I reach my senior years she'll take care of me. I'm in my senior years now, it's time to look after daddy."

Thomas Markle accuses Harry of being 'way too sensitive' and says royals owe him

Good grief!

Seems like the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Thomas Markle fears Meghan and Prince Harry won't see him until he 'is lowered into the ground' | Daily Mail Online

He's starting to remind me of someone... Hmmm

 

[Mominmi]

Seems like the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

LOL!