The case for murder

[Mrs. Holmes]

BBM. What I believe is that RZ was no longer the "beloved girlfriend" after doctors questioned the events leading to Max's injuries and requested CPS get involved. Thus, her suicide.

Dina is no longer Jonah's wife and he certainly has no control over her actions going forward to try to honor his son. We all mourn in different ways. If you expect JS to do so publicly, I think you'll have a long wait.

JS started a charity for Max months ago... and he created a trust weeks after MS's death.... but he never questioned Max's death nor RZ's...

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/...shacknai-launches-foundation-in.html?page=all

and no memorial... nothing for RZ... maybe he actually believes she did harm his son... and that is why he is a murder suspect in my mind....

 

[MyBelle]

Actually, the reason *I*(like many other posters) quit posting in this forum is because if you think Rebecca did commit suicide and it was not murder, those that don't agree with you are mean, hateful and downright condescending. I felt unwelcome on a website I've been a member of for 4 years every time I posted.
Even though I don't post in this forum anymore, I do read about this case all over the internet. The only time I ever see theories shut down is when someone does not agree with the majority, regardless of which side of the fence they are on.
It's just internet forum posters, not aggressive, all powerful PR goobers.

Yes, it seems some feel there is a vast conspiracy of corrupt law enforcement, corporate officers and PR "goobers" (I love that term) all focused on free Internet forums. In reality, I can't imagine anyone actually paying a professional PR person to post here. It would be less wasteful to burn the money to at least warm the hands.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

JS started a charity for Max months ago... and he created a trust weeks after MS's death.... but he never questioned Max's death nor RZ's...

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/...shacknai-launches-foundation-in.html?page=all

and no memorial... nothing for RZ... maybe he actually believes she did harm his son... and that is why he is a murder suspect in my mind....

JS also ignored Dina's pleas not to leave Max alone with RZ so I really don't get the point you are trying to make. My comment was in response to your complaints about Dina waiting so long.

JMO

 

[Mrs. Holmes]

It would be great if you could fix the quote so that it reads properly.
I made no mention of campaign dollars nor did I imply it.

It is not at all unusual for LE to be hired privately or otherwise be re-imbursed for resources deployed such as in helping private investigators review a closed case.

JMO

Follow the money..... wether it is campaign donations or being PAID to review a closed case... that stinks....

So LE would re-investigate if they were given money..... that is disgusting... a perversion of justice... how much does Gore want....$$$$$ because the public would at this frustrating point gladly PAY to make him do his job correctly.

 

[Mrs. Holmes]

JS also ignored Dina's pleas not to leave Max alone with RZ so I really don't get the point you are trying to make. My comment was in response to your complaints about Dina waiting so long.

JMO

So Dinah says but we don't know that for fact. If she was so concerned about RZ why did she not go to the courts or the authorities?

Previous posts have gone over in depth how the family law courts protect parents with regards to the care and welfare while in joint custody.

 

[Mrs. Holmes]

Yes, it seems some feel there is a vast conspiracy of corrupt law enforcement, corporate officers and PR "goobers" (I love that term) all focused on free Internet forums. In reality, I can't imagine anyone actually paying a professional PR person to post here. It would be less wasteful to burn the money to at least warm the hands.

JMO

I agree... I don't believe in a conspiracy.... just inept lazy police work... Gore has a nice big list in his careeer with the FBI Ruby Ridge & 911 a few other murder cases as Sheriff in SD and this very famous case of course... he is a magnet for huge blunders...

PR companies do in fact pay people to sway opinion on internet forums...
but all it does is fuel the fire... as you say.... many of us would have quietly waited for the results from the AG request.... but are pushed into posting
when inaccurate and untruthful statements are made by misinformed posters..
creating pages and pages left on the internet..... unscrubbed.

 

[freespeech]

Actually, the reason *I*(like many other posters) quit posting in this forum is because if you think Rebecca did commit suicide and it was not murder, those that don't agree with you are mean, hateful and downright condescending. I felt unwelcome on a website I've been a member of for 4 years every time I posted.
Even though I don't post in this forum anymore, I do read about this case all over the internet. The only time I ever see theories shut down is when someone does not agree with the majority, regardless of which side of the fence they are on.
It's just internet forum posters, not aggressive, all powerful PR goobers.

What have I said that was mean? Can you be specific? I would like to apologize for offending you but I am not sure what exactly makes you feel unwelcome. This is somewhat of a debate between opposite views which is challenging but also fun so I am not sure what you mean.

I hope you do not take anything personally. These are just people expressing their opinions and arguing their POV. Imo, this is an adult activity but not meant to be personal or hurtful but a thought producing activity. However, things do get heated at times.

Please let me know what I said that bothered you and I will either explain what I meant or try to be more sensitive in the future. Tia.

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

Spreckels is not owned by Medicis, it is owned by the Jonah Shacknai Revocable Trust, just as 1124 G Ave. And yes, he is moving back into Spreckels.

Do you have a link proving that? Otherwise, I will wait to believe that when I see it confirmed in msm. TIA.

 

[freespeech]

I agree... I don't believe in a conspiracy.... just inept lazy police work... Gore has a nice big list in his careeer with the FBI Ruby Ridge & 911 a few other murder cases as Sheriff in SD and this very famous case of course... he is a magnet for huge blunders...

PR companies do in fact pay people to sway opinion on internet forums...
but all it does is fuel the fire... as you say.... many of us would have quietly waited for the results from the AG request.... but are pushed into posting
when inaccurate and untruthful statements are made by misinformed posters..
creating pages and pages left on the internet..... unscrubbed.

I agree. The internet generates big $$$s for PR companies. Of course, when they are doing damage control they are patrolling private sites, trying to influence opinion, scrubbing articles and re-writing history. That's their job. Would you pay exorbitant fees for less than that. I think not. Imoo.

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

I agree. The internet generates big $$$s for PR companies. Of course, when they are doing damage control they are patrolling private sites, trying to influence opinion, scrubbing articles and re-writing history. That's their job. Would you pay exorbitant fees for less than that. I think not. Imoo.

Do you have any proof that they have been "scrubbing" articles? I have not seen any signs of that, so am thinking that is just another one of the many rumors around Jonah Shacknai, his family, and the Romanos.

JMO

 

[Mrs. Holmes]

Actually, the reason *I*(like many other posters) quit posting in this forum is because if you think Rebecca did commit suicide and it was not murder, those that don't agree with you are mean, hateful and downright condescending. I felt unwelcome on a website I've been a member of for 4 years every time I posted.
Even though I don't post in this forum anymore, I do read about this case all over the internet. The only time I ever see theories shut down is when someone does not agree with the majority, regardless of which side of the fence they are on.
It's just internet forum posters, not aggressive, all powerful PR goobers.

It can be difficult on the ego.... when your opinion or conlcusions do not hold up when tested by known facts....

I sway my opinion with the cold hard facts as we know them.... I like to live in as much truth as I can find....

I have had the same reaction in other cases on Websleuths....where the majority REFUSE to consider cold hard facts...

The Zahau forum in my opinon thankfully is quite rigid when it comes to stating facts.... opinions and theories are great but they are always vetted by the facts.... for me it is more interesting to be dealing with as much truth as we can find...

 

[Inparadise]

Do you have a link proving that? Otherwise, I will wait to believe that when I see it confirmed in msm. TIA.

A link to the property record, or that he is moving back in?

 

[Mrs. Holmes]

Do you have any proof that they have been "scrubbing" articles? I have not seen any signs of that, so am thinking that is just another one of the many rumors around Jonah Shacknai, his family, and the Romanos.

JMO

Do a search on scrubbing on this forum CG.... there are quite a few examples from websites... we have posted this just in the past day for you.... did you not read it?

 

[Mrs. Holmes]

A link to the property record, or that he is moving back in?

with regards to the property record... I have seen the info thanks....

I am just curious as to how you know he is moving back in?

 

[Inparadise]

with regards to the property record... I have seen the info thanks....

I am just curious as to how you know he is moving back in?

He was there the other day, and moving furniture and boxes from the garage into the main house with Caylee Pinsonneault and Sherryl Jackman (mother-daughter interior designers/decorators). Jackman's husband was the contractor who did the remodel, and Caylee is married to Joe Pinsonneault, the Principal of "1043 Ocean LLC", the investment group that supposedly purchased Spreckels last October.........something that we know never happened.

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

Do a search on scrubbing on this forum CG.... there are quite a few examples from websites... we have posted this just in the past day for you.... did you not read it?

On which forum is this posted? Websites and MSM articles examples? I have not seen that. TIA

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

He was there the other day, and moving furniture and boxes from the garage into the main house with Caylee Pinsonneault and Sherryl Jackman (mother-daughter interior designers/decorators). Jackman's husband was the contractor who did the remodel, and Caylee is married to Joe Pinsonneault, the Principal of "1043 Ocean LLC", the investment group that supposedly purchased Spreckels last October.........something that we know never happened.

That is not proof that he is moving back in, and only have your word that he was there. Do you have any other proof? TIA

 

[freespeech]

He was there the other day, and moving furniture and boxes from the garage into the main house with Caylee Pinsonneault and Sherryl Jackman (mother-daughter interior designers/decorators). Jackman's husband was the contractor who did the remodel, and Caylee is married to Joe Pinsonneault, the Principal of "1043 Ocean LLC", the investment group that supposedly purchased Spreckels last October.........something that we know never happened.

Can we also expect to see a 'new' lady of the house soon?

 

[Mrs. Holmes]

Do you have any proof that they have been "scrubbing" articles? I have not seen any signs of that, so am thinking that is just another one of the many rumors around Jonah Shacknai, his family, and the Romanos.

JMO

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freespeech
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CuriousGeorgia
freespeech, I have not seen any evidence of "PR people trying to get people to stop posting" anywhere. It sounds like another of the endless, ridiculous rumors that have been running rampid in this case.

Do you have any real evidence of this, or a msm link that shows this is actually happening?


Freespeech postes this last night for you.....
please READ the articles....


CEO Shacknai Wields Small Army Against Speculation on Death of His Girlfriend

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_1...tag=bnetdomain

Sitrick and Company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitrick_and_Company

Jonah Shacknai Hires PR Firm as Police Probe Death of Rebecca Nalepa

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun...tzik2-20100602

 

[justice be served]

He was there the other day, and moving furniture and boxes from the garage into the main house with Caylee Pinsonneault and Sherryl Jackman (mother-daughter interior designers/decorators). Jackman's husband was the contractor who did the remodel, and Caylee is married to Joe Pinsonneault, the Principal of "1043 Ocean LLC", the investment group that supposedly purchased Spreckels last October.........something that we know never happened.

First-hand knowledge is compelling. Thank you.