The Croslin & Cummings families, what's going on?

[Emeralgem]

IF Hank Sr. was referring to the trailer he and his wife were occupying on Magnolia at the time Haleigh was falsely reported as being abducted, then I say Yes. he is right when he claims he knows Misty was at the trailer.. Since both TN and GGMS have done everything within their power to attempt to prove Misty was at the MH on Green Lane that night, I'm going with Misty wasn't there..at least until it was time to prepare to stage the scene for an alleged abduction... JMHO.

 

[titanfan62702]

IF Hank Sr. was referring to the trailer he and his wife were occupying on Magnolia at the time Haleigh was falsely reported as being abducted, then I say Yes. he is right when he claims he knows Misty was at the trailer.. Since both TN and GGMS have done everything within their power to attempt to prove Misty was at the MH on Green Lane that night, I'm going with Misty wasn't there..at least until it was time to prepare to stage the scene for an alleged abduction... JMHO.

That would make sense, but, if true, Hank Sr needs to tell LE.

LE needs to have a heart to heart talk with both TN and GGMS.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I bet Ron did something to Haleigh after he got her off the bus. He probably returned home without her and Misty and Tommy were there and thats where all the confusion begins. I wouldnt doubt he told Misty Annette would drop her off when she came by, probably to drop off Junior, I think this could account for a lot of the confusion.

jmo

I agree that, IMO, Ron did something to Haleigh shortly after she got off the bus. But I still have a problem believing that Ron is the one that picked her up at the bus stop. I think this is what they (the one's telling that story) want us to believe. Wasn't there other witnesses saying that Haleigh got into a van with Misty or Chelsea at the bus stop? And didn't those witnesses say the van went in the opposite direction from the trailer? JMO

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I'm glad you brought up the call between Ron and Tommy, because I have an idea. If you remember, Tommy claimed that Ron asked him to go to the trailer. Ron, through his lawyer, denied that. He claimed that he only asked Tommy if Misty was there with him. The fact that Ron spoke through his attorney, IMO, says that Ron meant business. Also, as far as I know, Tommy never disputed this. Anyway, I've always been bugged by the significance. What I think is this...maybe Ron knew Misty wasn't home and was simply trying to find her. How could he have known this? maybe his work hours weren't what he said. Maybe he went in later or took a break and went by the trailer. KP said he wasn't upfront about his hours. Anyway, I see a couple of implications here. #1, Ron knew the kids were alone, and #2, he didn't want to be associated with sending Tommy to the trailer. There are a lot of reasonable theories out there, naming different perps, but there are several reasons I think Misty might not have been home that night. Really, this idea doesn't exonerate anybody, except Misty. just an idea and JMO, but once the idea got a hold of me that Ron knew Misty wasn't home and the kids were alone, it wouldn't let go.JMO.[/QUOTE]

BBM
I'm glad you brought this point up again, Dodie. It is one we don't need to forget. I agree with you. I believe RC knew, or at least suspected that , because Misty wouldn't answer her phone, that she wasn't home. I have fealt all along that she wasn't there. I'm also not totally convinced that the kids were there either. As others have said, I honestly feel that the crime happened at the home of Hank Sr and Lisa, and that home, as far as we know, was never looked at. My onter theory (one of them) is that Ron did something to Haleigh right after she got off the bus, but not at his trailer. The family was all to ready to walk us through the trailer and show us everything in the beginning. They knew there would be no evidence found there. They also have too anxious to establish that as the scene of the incident. I really believe it happened somewhere else. JMO

 

[titanfan62702]

I'm glad you brought up the call between Ron and Tommy, because I have an idea. If you remember, Tommy claimed that Ron asked him to go to the trailer. Ron, through his lawyer, denied that. He claimed that he only asked Tommy if Misty was there with him. The fact that Ron spoke through his attorney, IMO, says that Ron meant business. Also, as far as I know, Tommy never disputed this. Anyway, I've always been bugged by the significance. What I think is this...maybe Ron knew Misty wasn't home and was simply trying to find her. How could he have known this? maybe his work hours weren't what he said. Maybe he went in later or took a break and went by the trailer. KP said he wasn't upfront about his hours. Anyway, I see a couple of implications here. #1, Ron knew the kids were alone, and #2, he didn't want to be associated with sending Tommy to the trailer. There are a lot of reasonable theories out there, naming different perps, but there are several reasons I think Misty might not have been home that night. Really, this idea doesn't exonerate anybody, except Misty. just an idea and JMO, but once the idea got a hold of me that Ron knew Misty wasn't home and the kids were alone, it wouldn't let go.JMO.[/QUOTE]

BBM
I'm glad you brought this point up again, Dodie. It is one we don't need to forget. I agree with you. I believe RC knew, or at least suspected that , because Misty wouldn't answer her phone, that she wasn't home. I have fealt all along that she wasn't there. I'm also not totally convinced that the kids were there either. As others have said, I honestly feel that the crime happened at the home of Hank Sr and Lisa, and that home, as far as we know, was never looked at. My onter theory (one of them) is that Ron did something to Haleigh right after she got off the bus, but not at his trailer. The family was all to ready to walk us through the trailer and show us everything in the beginning. They knew there would be no evidence found there. They also have too anxious to establish that as the scene of the incident. I really believe it happened somewhere else. JMO

Call me slow, but I'm leaning that way too.

 

[dodie20]

I'm glad you brought up the call between Ron and Tommy, because I have an idea. If you remember, Tommy claimed that Ron asked him to go to the trailer. Ron, through his lawyer, denied that. He claimed that he only asked Tommy if Misty was there with him. The fact that Ron spoke through his attorney, IMO, says that Ron meant business. Also, as far as I know, Tommy never disputed this. Anyway, I've always been bugged by the significance. What I think is this...maybe Ron knew Misty wasn't home and was simply trying to find her. How could he have known this? maybe his work hours weren't what he said. Maybe he went in later or took a break and went by the trailer. KP said he wasn't upfront about his hours. Anyway, I see a couple of implications here. #1, Ron knew the kids were alone, and #2, he didn't want to be associated with sending Tommy to the trailer. There are a lot of reasonable theories out there, naming different perps, but there are several reasons I think Misty might not have been home that night. Really, this idea doesn't exonerate anybody, except Misty. just an idea and JMO, but once the idea got a hold of me that Ron knew Misty wasn't home and the kids were alone, it wouldn't let go.JMO.[/QUOTE]

BBM
I'm glad you brought this point up again, Dodie. It is one we don't need to forget. I agree with you. I believe RC knew, or at least suspected that , because Misty wouldn't answer her phone, that she wasn't home. I have fealt all along that she wasn't there. I'm also not totally convinced that the kids were there either. As others have said, I honestly feel that the crime happened at the home of Hank Sr and Lisa, and that home, as far as we know, was never looked at. My onter theory (one of them) is that Ron did something to Haleigh right after she got off the bus, but not at his trailer. The family was all to ready to walk us through the trailer and show us everything in the beginning. They knew there would be no evidence found there. They also have too anxious to establish that as the scene of the incident. I really believe it happened somewhere else. JMO

If you think about it, Ron's version of the phone call doesn't make sense. Tommy's does. Ron claimed Misty would never leave the kids and knew she was home. He called Tommy asking about her, and the next logical step SHOULD have been to ask him to check on her. (since he knew she was home, something could have been wrong), but he didn't...and on that, I believe him. because of him making a statement through his lawyer and because of Tommy letting it go. So, logic says Ron didn't send Tommy to the trailer, because he knew Misty wasn't there. Anyway, I'm half inclined to think that a big portion of the problem has been caused by Misty being gone and Ron knowing the kids were alone. Instead of admitting to that, it's MOO, that they might have said Misty slept through the whole thing to avoid negligence charges. When Ron got home, Misty supposedly asked him if he had Haleigh. That sounds like she had just gotten there and was caught unaware. KP said Ron wasn't up front about his work hours, so it's possible that he was either still at the trailer, or had just gotten to work, and was trying to round up Misty, to babysit. JMO.

 

[Flossie JMO]

I agree that, IMO, Ron did something to Haleigh shortly after she got off the bus. But I still have a problem believing that Ron is the one that picked her up at the bus stop. I think this is what they (the one's telling that story) want us to believe. Wasn't there other witnesses saying that Haleigh got into a van with Misty or Chelsea at the bus stop? And didn't those witnesses say the van went in the opposite direction from the trailer? JMO

iirc, santos and his gf and an "un named" grampa said Misty picked her up. LE said Ron did, and other folks apparently also did but Art Harris didn't speak to them iirc. JMO The bus driver is one of those who said Ron picked HaLeigh up. JMO

 

[Emeralgem]

To my knowledge we have never heard a word from LE as to who the bus driver is or what the bus driver may have seen or heard that afternoon.. When the bus driver identifies himself, comes forward and states he saw Haleigh get into Ron C's car and Ron C drove of with her sitting on his lap, then I may believe Ron C picked her up.. Even IF he did pick her up does not mean he isn't the one responsible for whatever happened to her..JMHO..

 

[titanfan62702]

iirc, santos and his gf and an "un named" grampa said Misty picked her up. LE said Ron did, and other folks apparently also did but Art Harris didn't speak to them iirc. JMO The bus driver is one of those who said Ron picked HaLeigh up. JMO

So it's your opinion that the bus driver said that Ron picked up HaLeigh. Got it. Sounds like a rumor to me.

 

[titanfan62702]

If you think about it, Ron's version of the phone call doesn't make sense. Tommy's does. Ron claimed Misty would never leave the kids and knew she was home. He called Tommy asking about her, and the next logical step SHOULD have been to ask him to check on her. (since he knew she was home, something could have been wrong), but he didn't...and on that, I believe him. because of him making a statement through his lawyer and because of Tommy letting it go. So, logic says Ron didn't send Tommy to the trailer, because he knew Misty wasn't there. Anyway, I'm half inclined to think that a big portion of the problem has been caused by Misty being gone and Ron knowing the kids were alone. Instead of admitting to that, it's MOO, that they might have said Misty slept through the whole thing to avoid negligence charges. When Ron got home, Misty supposedly asked him if he had Haleigh. That sounds like she had just gotten there and was caught unaware. KP said Ron wasn't up front about his work hours, so it's possible that he was either still at the trailer, or had just gotten to work, and was trying to round up Misty, to babysit. JMO.

Very little of Ron said makes sense.

 

[Chablis]

Very little of Ron said makes sense.

And thats why hes in Prison- jmo

 

[pinkfly]

I so wish this case would break wide open. Poor little Haleigh deserved so much better, and at the very least a proper burial. I hate watching a case like this quietly go cold.

 

[mkay882]

And thats why hes in Prison- jmo

Um, :giggle: I think it's for drug trafficking.

 

[Flossie JMO]

So it's your opinion that the bus driver said that Ron picked up HaLeigh. Got it. Sounds like a rumor to me.

bbm, Yes it's my opinion.

iirc, santos and his gf and an "un named" grampa said Misty picked her up. LE said Ron did, and other folks apparently also did but Art Harris didn't speak to them iirc. JMO The bus driver is one of those who said Ron picked HaLeigh up. JMO

 

[Chablis]

Um, :giggle: I think it's for drug trafficking.

As much as I am aware hes in there for being a mega druggie, hes in Prison because of what he did to his daughter, how he can sleep knowing he left her to rot is beyond me but know I have a lot of pleasure knowing hes locked up, and so should the young gals of Satsuma. jmo

 

[Donjeta]

I'm glad you brought up the call between Ron and Tommy, because I have an idea. If you remember, Tommy claimed that Ron asked him to go to the trailer. Ron, through his lawyer, denied that. He claimed that he only asked Tommy if Misty was there with him. The fact that Ron spoke through his attorney, IMO, says that Ron meant business. Also, as far as I know, Tommy never disputed this. Anyway, I've always been bugged by the significance. What I think is this...maybe Ron knew Misty wasn't home and was simply trying to find her. How could he have known this? maybe his work hours weren't what he said. Maybe he went in later or took a break and went by the trailer. KP said he wasn't upfront about his hours. Anyway, I see a couple of implications here. #1, Ron knew the kids were alone, and #2, he didn't want to be associated with sending Tommy to the trailer. There are a lot of reasonable theories out there, naming different perps, but there are several reasons I think Misty might not have been home that night. Really, this idea doesn't exonerate anybody, except Misty. just an idea and JMO, but once the idea got a hold of me that Ron knew Misty wasn't home and the kids were alone, it wouldn't let go.JMO.

I'm not following. Why does it exonerate Misty if Ronald knew or thought she wasn't at the trailer? Of course if she had an airtight alibi and Haleigh was observed somewhere Misty was not... but apparently it's not the case. If Misty wasn't there the whole story about the evening goes down the drain and who knows where Haleigh was. She could have been killed by Misty wherever, or maybe they used to be at the trailer earlier but she had to leave to find a place to dispose of the body.

 

[titanfan62702]

bbm, Yes it's my opinion.

I stand corrected. That ain't even a rumor, but that's how rumors get started.

 

[mkay882]

I'm not following. Why does it exonerate Misty if Ronald knew or thought she wasn't at the trailer? Of course if she had an airtight alibi and Haleigh was observed somewhere Misty was not... but apparently it's not the case. If Misty wasn't there the whole story about the evening goes down the drain and who knows where Haleigh was. She could have been killed by Misty wherever, or maybe they used to be at the trailer earlier but she had to leave to find a place to dispose of the body.

Misty has stated to detectives she was gone from the house for a while.
I've linked it on this thread numerous times.
It is not a rumor and could be why LE, from day one, wanted people who may have seen her out... to come forward.

Ron is not a suspect.
It is a police statement given after Ron's alibi was checked out.
This is not a rumor or my opinion.
It is fact.

LE has focused on the Croslin family from the beginning.
They have also looked closely at a family member of the Croslins'.
Joe Overstreet.

This one note band of 'Ron is guilty' has been playing from day one.

He is not a suspect according to those investigating.
Opinions, rumor or the sheer glee of slicing and dicing this guy won't make it so.

 

[Chablis]

Ron is not a suspect.
It is a police statement given after Ron's alibi was checked out.
This is not a rumor or my opinion.
It is fact.

.

Why you gloss over or forget to mention the cops said Ron was at work, HOWEVER, they dont know what time what happened to Haleigh did meaning Ron being at work means nothing? A child is missing here and dead and to pretend the great Dad of the decade who is in Prison now is a misunderstood macho boy is truly insulting to this little girl,you could at least put jmo at the end of your posts so people dont take your words as FACT. JMO

 

[mkay882]

Why you gloss over or forget to mention the cops said Ron was at work, HOWEVER, they dont know what time what happened to Haleigh did meaning Ron being at work means nothing? A child is missing here and dead and to pretend the great Dad of the decade who is in Prison now is a misunderstood macho boy is truly insulting to this little girl,you could at least put jmo at the end of your posts so people dont take your words as FACT. JMO

Why do you continue to gloss over or deny there is a time line for HaLeigh's disappearance?
Perhaps you should ask someone in the know what that means exactly.

HOWEVER
At the end of every post of mine there is a jmo.
Perhaps if you read the complete post(s), instead of jumping so fast to condemn Ron, you might have noticed.