The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 11th -12th June - Trial Days 2 & 3 - Week 1

[drsleuth]

I'm sorry, I was following Francene Norton but she's not tweeting anymore so switched to Kate. :blushing:

Do you want to continue? I can do up to the next break if you like.

Probably better not to double up??

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 5s

Milne says he couldn't find information on how much is therapeutic levels of Sertraline in the liver. #badenclay

 

[DrWatson]

I'm sorry, I was following Francene Norton but she's not tweeting anymore so switched to Kate. :blushing:

For those following Twitter feeds, the easiest way to do it is to set up a search for the hashtag #badenclay and just have that running as a real time feed. That's what I have running on the laptop in the corner here

That way you get everything being tweeted by anyone who uses that hashtag

 

[Fuskier]

Question for DocWatson:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...s-wife-allison/story-fnihsrf2-1226950152264e:

"...11.30am: Forensic pathologist Dr Nathan Milne said the brain was examined by a neuropathologist but it was particularly difficult because of the level of decomposition.
He said the only finding was inconclusive, that there was modest amounts of granular material on the brain"...

What would be the significance of granular material on the brain? Could you assist with an understanding here Doc?

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 2m
Milne says he couldn't find information on how much is therapeutic levels of Sertraline in the liver. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 4m
Milne says it's hard to say anything about liver and stomach levels, but blood was higher than you would expect from therapeutic levels.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1m
Dr Milne being x exam by Michael Byrne QC about the levels of anti-depressant drug found in Allison Baden-Clay's system. #badenclay @abcnews

 

[DrWatson]

Question for DocWatson:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...s-wife-allison/story-fnihsrf2-1226950152264e:

"...11.30am: Forensic pathologist Dr Nathan Milne said the brain was examined by a neuropathologist but it was particularly difficult because of the level of decomposition.
He said the only finding was inconclusive, that there was modest amounts of granular material on the brain"...

What would be the significance of granular material on the brain? It would be appreciated if you could assist with out understanding here Doc.

Hi Fuskier

That granular material - probably a result of decomposition - is what raised the possibility of a very small subdural haematoma (bleed) on the surface of the brain. They're just being thorough. But that could not be confirmed, even under the microscope.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
Milne says Sertraline can shift around the body after death, changing the blood levels in different areas. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
Byrne tells Dr Milne his report couldn't exclude drug overdose or alcohol toxicity as cause of death. Milne: I think it's unlikely.

 

[Amee]

12:11pm: Gerard Baden-Clay's defence counsel Michael Byrne QC has detailed Mrs Baden-Clay's medical records, as noted by Dr Milne.

Mr Byrne told the court Mrs Baden-Clay had been diagnosed with depression after the birth of her first child for which she was prescribed 100 milligrams of Zoloft per day.

"She had also been prone to transient suicidal thoughts?" Mr Byrne asked.

"Yes," Dr Milne replied.

"There was an associated panic disorder?" Mr Byrne asked.

"Yes," Dr Milne replied.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-2-week-1-20140611-39wcd.html#ixzz34IDOrc2u

 

[drsleuth]

ate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 3m

Milne says he couldn't find information on how much is therapeutic levels of Sertraline in the liver. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 21s

Milne says Sertraline can shift around the body after death, changing the blood levels in different areas. #badenclay http://bit.ly/badenclayday2

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 20s

Byrne tells Dr Milne his report couldn't exclude drug overdose or alcohol toxicity as cause of death. Milne: I think it's unlikely.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
Dr Milne agrees he "couldn't rule out" the body was moved by water, causing superficial lacerations. #badenclay

 

[Deleted member 102539]

fftobed:

I'm not ready with sleeping (04:16 am), but all others already on thread?

Guten Morgen!

 

[Amee]

Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 2m

Dr Milne can't exclude drowning, fall from height or anti-depressant/alcohol toxicity as causes of death @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
Byrne says Dr Milne also couldn't determine the time of death. Milne says you can rarely be accurate. #badenclay

1m
Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
Byrne says the place of death could not be determined. Milne agrees. #badenclay http://bit.ly/badenclayday2

 

[marlywings]

fftobed:

I'm not ready with sleeping (04:16 am), but all others already on thread?

Guten Morgen!

G'day from Oz! 12.18pm Wednesday here

 

[DrWatson]

Good grief - don't tell me they're going to try the suicide theory again? The prosecution had access to some very specific information on liver levels of sertraline at the bail hearing, which was presented in court and put paid to any notions of overdose. This evidence was presented by one of the other pathologists, not Nathan Milne. (It was Dr Rob Hoskin)

If they're really going to try that one on again, it'll be interesting to see how the defence explain how she got to Kholo with no car....

 

[Jo04]

G'day from Oz! 12.18pm Wednesday here

11.49am here in SA hi


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[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
The pathologist has finished giving evidence. #badenclay

1m
Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
Milne says decomposition of body affected external examination of the body, internal, toxicology, determining place and time of death.

 

[Total]

Good grief - don't tell me they're going to try the suicide theory again? The prosecution had access to some very specific information on liver levels of sertraline at the bail hearing, which was presented in court and put paid to any notions of overdose. This evidence was presented by one of the other pathologists, not Nathan Milne.

If they're really going to try that one on again, it'll be interesting to see how the defence explain how she got to Kholo with no car....

...and only picking up plant material found in the driveway and at Kholo.