The dead squirrel

[Harmony 2]

I'm officially a WS addict! I can't believe I've spent almost an entire day on a thread about squirrels, and particularly squirrels that weren't even there - didn't even stroll by close to this car, let alone dive into the engine, burrow their way back into the trunk lining, hang out in the garbage back there, dining on empty pizza boxes, then crawled back down to the chassis, glued themselves to it and died - completely stinking up the place for months to come. I've also officially lost my mind.

We have All gone squirrely!!

 

[mydailyopinions]

Exactly...the squirrel thing was obviously a lie, and the only point of the lie would be to explain the smell (with something other than the true explanation), and it would never occur to Casey to make up a false explanation for the smell if the true explanation was bacon grease. Why wouldn't she just say, "Boy, my car stinks. I forgot to take out a trash bag with some bacon grease in it and man oh man it smells bad. I think I'll just leave it in there for another couple of days." :waitasec:

Which brings up another point: if bacon grease (or anything at all in the trash) was causing the smell, Casey would have simply thrown out the bag once she realized that fact. We know she was aware of the smell before she left the car at the Amscot. If she thought the smell was coming from the trash bag, she would have tossed the bag into the dumpster that was RIGHT NEXT TO HER CAR when she left it at Amscot.

The squirrel lie, once it is recognized as a lie, allows 2 reasonable conclusions: (1) Casey was aware something was making a smell in her car, (2) she thought she had gotten rid of the thing making the smell (therefore she did not think the trash bag was making the smell).

Exactly!
And if by chance she were to run into anyone like her parents, or any of her friends while in that car, and they smelled it, then she could throw the trash off as the excuse for the smell...and the ones who have no idea what the smell of death is would have believed the odor was coming from the trash. The morning Tony picked her up from Amscot, if he were to have gotten out, smelled anything, she had the perfect excuse.

 

[magic-cat]

Cadaver dogs do not hit on bacon.
Seasoned homicide detectives do not confuse the scent of dead people with the scent of bacon fat.
There is no reason to make up a dead squirrel story to explain the horrible smell of death(thus DEAD squirrel story) if it was bacon in the trunk.

Bacon?
Seriously?

I HOPE that is the best that the defense can come up with to try to explain away that smell. That will be perfect coupled with Joy R.'s testimony! Double whammy smack down the day THAT happens...

JMO:innocent:

 

[manatee]

Cadaver dogs do not hit on bacon.
Seasoned homicide detectives do not confuse the scent of dead people with the scent of bacon fat.
There is no reason to make up a dead squirrel story to explain the horrible smell of death(thus DEAD squirrel story) if it was bacon in the trunk.

Bacon?
Seriously?

I HOPE that is the best that the defense can come up with to try to explain away that smell. That will be perfect coupled with Joy R.'s testimony! Double whammy smack down the day THAT happens...

JMO:innocent:

THANK YOU! Why are we arguing this? we need a new thread on the "evidence of dead body in dam car"

 

[BeanE]

I'm officially a WS addict! I can't believe I've spent almost an entire day on a thread about squirrels, and particularly squirrels that weren't even there - didn't even stroll by close to this car, let alone dive into the engine, burrow their way back into the trunk lining, hang out in the garbage back there, dining on empty pizza boxes, then crawled back down to the chassis, glued themselves to it and died - completely stinking up the place for months to come. I've also officially lost my mind.

Welcome to the Institute!

 

[wenwe4]

Cadaver dogs do not hit on bacon Seasoned homicide detectives :

I only made it this far in your post before I cracked up. I edited your post to add emphasis as I somehow missed the pause between bacon and seasoned.

 

[LambChop]

THANK YOU! Why are we arguing this? we need a new thread on the "evidence of dead body in dam car"

We already have a thread where we discussed this months ago. It seems like every time someone mentions a dead animal or the car this same subject comes up, yet again. Same argument, different day. Facts, links, quotes all have been presented on this subject but it is still out there being argued and often taking us all totally OT in any given thread.

I feel we need to look at all things objectively but clearly to me the trunk held that poor baby's body and I just can't get past that. Nothing I have seen posted here leads me to believe it was anything other than Caylee in KC's trunk and the speculation presented at times is disrespectful to her memory. JMO

 

[marspiter]

Well dangnabit I saw this thread topic and came here looking for some good Brunswick stew recipes.

I agree this dead squirrel story and trash in the car is there for one simple reason. Casey knew what the smell was from and was trying to find a way to explain it when the inevitable question of "what is that smell?" comes up.

I think Casey figured that the trash and road kill stories wouldn't work so she ditched the car in an effort to say I don't know what happened to my car someone else did it while it was abandoned.

The really scary thing I think with this whole case is that we are seeing elements that could be used in a how to do the perfect crime scenario book. The good thing is it wasn't entirely well thought out and there were plenty of mistakes made. Still though as stupid as some of the explanations are like this squirrel thing for example. Just sit back and look at how devious and planned this was.

 

[manatee]

We already have a thread where we discussed this months ago. It seems like every time someone mentions a dead animal or the car this same subject comes up, yet again. Same argument, different day. Facts, links, quotes all have been presented on this subject but it is still out there being argued and often taking us all totally OT in any given thread.

I feel we need to look at all things objectively but clearly to me the trunk held that poor baby's body and I just can't get past that. Nothing I have seen posted here leads me to believe it was anything other than Caylee in KC's trunk and the speculation presented at times is disrespectful to her memory. JMO

completetely agree. So what's the problem with agreeing that there was a dead body in that pontiac? We are spinning our wheels for no reason.

 

[RR0004]

Why would she put a bag of trash in the car to cover the smell if she already told everyone it was a dead squirrel?

It's Casey. She has multiple explanations...look at the switch to the JBP story when the nanny story wasn't working out too well.

 

[LambChop]

The really scary thing I think with this whole case is that we are seeing elements that could be used in a how to do the perfect crime scenario book. The good thing is it wasn't entirely well thought out and there were plenty of mistakes made. Still though as stupid as some of the explanations are like this squirrel thing for example. Just sit back and look at how devious and planned this was.

BBM
LOL. That would be because her lies had always worked before. Don't think she ever put much effort into her lies because no one ever challenged her on them. Both CA and GA admit KC has been stealing from them for years.

 

[marspiter]

All this talk of bacon fat and squirrels is making me hungry. I think it's time to step away from the thread and grab dinner especially now that I'm reminded of good ol nana's cookin.

 

[Eidetic]

Ew. LOL

 

[TorisMom003]

All this talk of bacon fat and squirrels is making me hungry. I think it's time to step away from the thread and grab dinner especially now that I'm reminded of good ol nana's cookin.

Roadkill stew?!? Sounds yummy.

 

[LC446]

It's Casey. She has multiple explanations...look at the switch to the JBP story when the nanny story wasn't working out too well.

Exactly what I thought...backup plan.

 

[kaRN]

BBM -

Where did you read that? I would say that it is incorrect. The smell would not be that bad at first, but the longer the car sat in the hot sun, the worse it would get.

From a Death/Decomp cleanup service website:
http://www.cendecon.com/services/human-decomposition/decomp-cleanup

Something to know about doing a decomposition cleanup – there is more than meets the eye. Body fluids can and will seep into any porous surface. If a body decomposes on the 2nd floor of a building, chances are you will need to locate, remove and treat areas on the 1st floor, depending on how long the body was left.

Another thing to consider with a decomp cleanup - the longer the body went undiscovered the worse the damage and smell. It’s pretty much a guarantee that all carpet, furniture, clothing and other belongings will retain the death odor until properly treated - even if these items were on the opposite end of the house.


ETA - As for the "Trace Evidence" sentence, well, Casey and the family had some time to clean up the trunk BEFORE they called LE. We'll never know what they did, probably.

The odour returns when it's humid enough even years after the fact, faint but there. I have a friend who lives in a unit that was professionally cleaned as you mentioned and you can smell it, but thankfull only where the body was found.

 

[JBean]

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