The Duggar Family: 18 Kids & Counting

  • #281
LOL)

we werent home schooled, but all of us benefited from auntie's love and wisdom. her hair was never 'styled' it just was. nobody seemed to care, we just wanted to be the first to tell her our news, or get to sit by her.
The home school is my biggest beef. I have nothing against chores or older ones helping younger ones. Also, why put a 15 and 17 year old in charge of cooking for the whole group? I think that should be Mom's responsibility with HELP from the girls.
 
  • #282
According to the religion, this is how they dress. Who says the Mom does a good job of raising them, it is basically she gives birth, tends to the youngest and the others raise themselves and depend on older brothers and sisters to pick up the slack.

Sort of like having live in nannies and housekeepers all rolled into one. After all the girls need practice to take care of all of the babies they are expected to have. So they need to start young, after all their job is to be pregnant, cook, clean, teach, have babies, cook, clean, teach have babies, etc.

That is the only life they are going to have, so I can see why they are assigned buddies as parents.




I agree with you. This mom is a breed mare.
 
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  • #284
The home school is my biggest beef. I have nothing against chores or older ones helping younger ones. Also, why put a 15 and 17 year old in charge of cooking for the whole group? I think that should be Mom's responsibility with HELP from the girls.

Why can't the boys help?

My boys cook.
 
  • #285
Eventually this woman will stop ovulating or die in childbirth.
My gramma had 16 homebirths. She is still alive and kicking at 93 years old. She would be quite surprised that her life has been reduced to being a "breedmare".
 
  • #286
  • #287
They are too busy building the house and chopping wood! LMAO!:D



Lol... true.

It's more like an institution, with dorms, a commercial laundry room and kitchen.

Building your own institution....that's a thought.
 
  • #288
They don't look corny at all to me, but then I was raised around families like that. I don't "get" the hostility towards this family. I have watched the show.

The kids are not lacking in their education, being homeschooled. I would bet that they will be as well, or better prepared to deal with the real world than many of the graduates of the public school system. The older ones were all involved in the house building. They have schooling in the arts, play musical instruments, and I think I remember watching that they have a tutor teaching them a foriegn language. (I might be confusing that with another show) Just because they dress like Mennonites, and refuse to conform to societys fashion standards does not mean that they are weird, odd, whatever.

The parents do not believe in birth control. That does not mean they are sex maniacs, humping at every opportunity. It means they have a loving, healthy relationship, and do not use b/c. Good for them! At least their kids are not latchkey children, like many families today... off doing who knows what, on the streets with no supervision.

I am so surprised at how folks want to judge this family. The kids are learning responsibility, just like any children on any working farm, etc. (the family IS a work in progress.. a working family) would learn. This is not child labor. This is good for them. Just because they are different than our families does not make it wrong.

If that is the case, then many of my own relatives, including my mothers family is wrong. Weird. Etc. It just is not so. A large family like that can function beautifully and produce responsible adults who are productive members of society.
I tried to get to the Duggar website, because I am sure they answer many of the questions you all have about them. But... the website must be overloaded with the latest interest in them, because I was not able to get to it.


I bolded the parts of your post that I wanted to comment on. It doesn't sound like they will be partaking much in "real world" so I don't see how they will be "productive members of society". From what I've read here, they'll only grow up and build houses near their parents and copy the lives of their parents. It doesn't sound like they will move away and experience all walks of life, other races/cultures, employment (such as accountants, lawyers, nurses, computer specialists, counselors). It sounds like there is only a handful of approved employment choices (real estate, politics, midwifery). And if they go into politics, they will only serve family members if they all live in the same community.

It's their business to live life as they please as long as they aren't abusive and don't rely on handouts from the gov't, as others have pointed out. But to argue that they are getting this top-notch education and work ethic for the real world is kind of silly because the real world is nothing like where they'll ever live IMO.

JMO
 
  • #289
I bolded the parts of your post that I wanted to comment on. It doesn't sound like they will be partaking much in "real world" so I don't see how they will be "productive members of society". From what I've read here, they'll only grow up and build houses near their parents and copy the lives of their parents. It doesn't sound like they will move away and experience all walks of life, other races/cultures, employment (such as accountants, lawyers, nurses, computer specialists, counselors). It sounds like there is only a handful of approved employment choices (real estate, politics, midwifery). And if they go into politics, they will only serve family members if they all live in the same community.

It's their business to live life as they please as long as they aren't abusive and don't rely on handouts from the gov't, as others have pointed out. But to argue that they are getting this top-notch education and work ethic for the real world is kind of silly because the real world is nothing like where they'll ever live IMO.

JMO
Well, we will have to wait and see. The Amish and Mennonites around me are productive members of my society. I am not sure about the Duggars, but isnt the eldest son the age to go on to college? We will have to see what choices he makes for his life. On edit... I found this, with the future goals of the children. The eldest wants to be an attorney. http://health.discovery.com/convergence/duggars/duggarkids_03.html
I wish him the best!
 
  • #290
I do not have any issue with their physical appearance. I do not have issue with homeschooling them.
The only problem I have with this in general is how can parents devote enough time to each individual child? I come from a family of 8 kids and I know it was extremely difficult for us to get one on one special time. I think that is critical part of child development and in that regard I feel bad for these kids.
Some say one on one time with parents is over rated..I disagree I think it is really important.
JMHO of course.
 
  • #291
Well, we will have to wait and see. The Amish and Mennonites around me are productive members of my society. I am not sure about the Duggars, but isnt the eldest son the age to go on to college? We will have to see what choices he makes for his life. On edit... I found this, with the future goals of the children. The eldest wants to be an attorney. http://health.discovery.com/convergence/duggars/duggarkids_03.html
I wish him the best!

That link isn't working right now, but I'll try it later. I wish ALL of them the best, sincerely. And I have no issues with they way they are being raised, my point was that the likelihoodof them living and mingling with the real world didn't seem all that great, if they are all going to live on the family compound and repeat the lives of their parents. NOT saying in any way that it's wrong, just not what I consider the real world.

I frequent a Mennonite bakery quite often and they are some of the sweetest, most caring people (women mostly) I've ever met. So while I don't know their lives firsthand, I am a little familiar with similar religions and their lives. And while they do interact with other people, they all still work together and live close to each other. I'd be embarrased (and might get told off) if I asked them if they'd ever gone to college away from home, or travelled or did any other activity that allowed them to experience the great, big world.
 
  • #292
I do not have any issue with their physical appearance. I do not have issue with homeschooling them.
The only problem I have with this in general is how can parents devote enough time to each individual child? I come from a family of 8 kids and I know it was extremely difficult for us to get one on one special time. I think that is critical part of child development and in that regard I feel bad for these kids.
Some say one on one time with parents is over rated..I disagree I think it is really important.
JMHO of course.

Thanks for putting into words my feelings on the subject.
 
  • #293
The name of their next child should be Jesus Notagain!!! :p
 
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  • #295
Well, we will have to wait and see. The Amish and Mennonites around me are productive members of my society. I am not sure about the Duggars, but isnt the eldest son the age to go on to college? We will have to see what choices he makes for his life. On edit... I found this, with the future goals of the children. The eldest wants to be an attorney. http://health.discovery.com/convergence/duggars/duggarkids_03.html
I wish him the best!
We
all wish them the best....but the chances of that happening?? I really doubt it. He will compete with the best educated students in his state. I doubt a mom with a high school education was able to teach him all the necessary skills to have the edge it takes. That is why even teachers have areas of specialties. Even teachers can't "teach it all."
 
  • #296
Especially some student who are home schooled "in a religious" home, know the bible and everything associated with the bible. But "what life" experiences does he have. He has no frame of reference to the outside world, the world outside of his home, his church and community.

What are his SAT scores, for an undergrad program. How will he study and prep for the LSAT. What skills does he have at reasoning, logic, deduction.

He and his siblings have been sheltered from TV and the Internet. There is a whole world out there, that is not biblically based.

What about research that needs to be done on the Internet. Work that must be typed in a word processing program.
 
  • #297
Good one MarthaTex! LOL.
 
  • #298
I am just reading up on this...found something on their website I hadn't seen mentioned on here:

Jim Bob & Michelle Duggar married July 21st, 1984. At that time, they chose to use the birth control pill. They thought, “We don’t want children right now. We can’t afford them. We want children in our timing, when we’re ready.” Four years later they decided to have their first child. Then, Michelle went back on the pill, but she conceived and had a miscarriage. At that point they talked with a Christian medical doctor and read the fine print in the contraceptives package. They found that while taking the pill you can get pregnant and then miscarry. They were grieved! They were Christians! They were pro-life! They realized that their selfish actions had taken the life of their child. They prayed and asked God to forgive them, and to teach them to love children like He loves children. They asked God to bless them with as many children as He saw fit in His timing. Right after that Michelle got pregnant with twins!

http://www.duggarfamily.com/aboutus.html
 
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  • #300
I find it funny that while they don't watch or believe in T.V...... yet they choose to do TV specials? Kind of a double standard don't you think?:confused:
 

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