The Hispanic Guy & The Couple

[NewMommy09]

This is something that's been floating around and is patently false. There is no tape of Elizabeth Johnson and Gabriel at Six flags or near six flags. I'm not quite sure where this started but it's false. It was probably by one of these TV stations that just starts reporting rumors and doesn't source the information.

The last time Elizabeth and Gabriel were seen together in San Antonio was December 22nd. There's also the pictures of Gabriel, taken by elizabeth, in the HomeGate Suites hotel room.

They never visited Six Flags.

Welcome to Websleuths ShowboatMB

Do you have any links or evidence that EJ and Gabriel never visited Six Flags, or is that opinion only?
Also, there have been several sightings of Elizabeth and Gabriel in the media. The babysitter came to the hotel anywhere from the 19th to the 23rd of Dec. (most of us at WS lean towards the 23rd). There were two sightings of EJ with a hispanic man, once they were also said to be with a couple. A possible sighting of Elizabeth on Christmas Day at Jack In The Box. A pizza delivery man who remembers delivering pizza to EJ's hotel room on the 21st, and they are currently looking for another pizza delivery man who delivered pizza to her on the 24th. I don't know that ANY of these are VERIFIED sightings including the babysitter, as I have not specifically seen LE confirm ANY of this. But then, how often are sightings undeniably confirmed in cases like this? We can only speculate on what is released through media and LE.

One other thing, we don't know for sure that Elizabeth took the pictures of Gabriel, we only know those pictures were found on her camera when she was arrested.

I am not trying to be mean, but your post made it seem as though you have inside info on this case. If that is true, you need to be verified by Tricia (Websleuths owner) before posting.

 

[NewMommy09]

The existence of surveillance video just came out. The article said it was of Eliz 'outside' Six Flags.

I'm able to find articles with Google Labs News Timeline that I can't find otherwise.

ETA: surveillance footage and 'outside' Six Flags:
http://www.kpho.com/news/22494558/detail.html

Hmm, have we discussed the part of this article snipped below?
snip:“I have three kids and I couldn’t even imagine. Good luck to you, really good luck. I’ll be praying for you all night,” said one man at the Subway where Johnson was spotted.

So this is another possible sighting?

 

[ShowboatMB]

I'm sure my employer wouldn't be thrilled about me posting on a web forum regarding the case, so lets just say that I've been following the case. If the board ops want to verify who I am, that's cool, but I'd rather not say.

As far as sightings, I'm talking about physical evidence (camera, video, etc.) I'm not doubting the babysitter... even thought I think some of what she has said is hyped up for the camera. That's my opinion. I'm also not doubting the pizza deliveryman.

The Tempe police have said that elizabeth took the pictures of gabriel on her digital camera, which was found with her in the Maimi hostel. That's close enough to prove that the two were together at the HomeGate Suites on December 26th.

There is no video/camera evidence that ej and gabriel visited six flags or the parking lot. It is simply not true and it's frustrating as heck that some people report it as fact.

I guess what they say is true. If something gets repeated over and over again, it will eventually be accpeted as fact.

 

[vjlaw]

I'm sure my employer wouldn't be thrilled about me posting on a web forum regarding the case, so lets just say that I've been following the case. If the board ops want to verify who I am, that's cool, but I'd rather not say.

As far as sightings, I'm talking about physical evidence (camera, video, etc.) I'm not doubting the babysitter... even thought I think some of what she has said is hyped up for the camera. That's my opinion. I'm also not doubting the pizza deliveryman.

The Tempe police have said that elizabeth took the pictures of gabriel on her digital camera, which was found with her in the Maimi hostel. That's close enough to prove that the two were together at the HomeGate Suites on December 26th.

There is no video/camera evidence that ej and gabriel visited six flags or the parking lot. It is simply not true and it's frustrating as heck that some people report it as fact.

I guess what they say is true. If something gets repeated over and over again, it will eventually be accpeted as fact.

When speaking on camera, Lisa Peters, a family member on the search in SA, seemed to believe she took some pictures on the 26th, then drove to Six Flags.

 

[BeanE]

I'm sure my employer wouldn't be thrilled about me posting on a web forum regarding the case, so lets just say that I've been following the case. If the board ops want to verify who I am, that's cool, but I'd rather not say.

As far as sightings, I'm talking about physical evidence (camera, video, etc.) I'm not doubting the babysitter... even thought I think some of what she has said is hyped up for the camera. That's my opinion. I'm also not doubting the pizza deliveryman.

The Tempe police have said that elizabeth took the pictures of gabriel on her digital camera, which was found with her in the Maimi hostel. That's close enough to prove that the two were together at the HomeGate Suites on December 26th.

There is no video/camera evidence that ej and gabriel visited six flags or the parking lot. It is simply not true and it's frustrating as heck that some people report it as fact.

I guess what they say is true. If something gets repeated over and over again, it will eventually be accpeted as fact.

I can appreciate that, Showboat. It would be great if you could verify with Tricia so we can substantiate about there being no video of Eliz at Six Flags, and that she never visited Six Flags.

Also, you stated as fact that Eliz and Gabe were never seen together after Dec 22. If you could substantiate that, it would be appreciated.

 

[vjlaw]

I can appreciate that, Showboat. It would be great if you could verify with Tricia so we can substantiate about there being no video of Eliz at Six Flags, and that she never visited Six Flags.

Also, you stated as fact that Eliz and Gabe were never seen together after Dec 22. If you could substantiate that, it would be appreciated.

Bean E, when you watch the video of Lisa Peters, it sounds like she believes that EJ drove to Six Flags. If there was no video of her there, I would hope LE would have told them there was no video of her there. Also, I wonder if the family could contact security at Six Flags and get any kind of info.

 

[NewMommy09]

I'm sure my employer wouldn't be thrilled about me posting on a web forum regarding the case, so lets just say that I've been following the case. If the board ops want to verify who I am, that's cool, but I'd rather not say.

As far as sightings, I'm talking about physical evidence (camera, video, etc.) I'm not doubting the babysitter... even thought I think some of what she has said is hyped up for the camera. That's my opinion. I'm also not doubting the pizza deliveryman.

The Tempe police have said that elizabeth took the pictures of gabriel on her digital camera, which was found with her in the Maimi hostel. That's close enough to prove that the two were together at the HomeGate Suites on December 26th.
There is no video/camera evidence that ej and gabriel visited six flags or the parking lot. It is simply not true and it's frustrating as heck that some people report it as fact.

I guess what they say is true. If something gets repeated over and over again, it will eventually be accpeted as fact.

BBM, I have only seen it reported that those pictures were found on her camera after her arrest. I don't see how they can KNOW Elizabeth took those pictures unless they were in the room when she took them. Even if Elizabeth told them she took the pictures, that doesn't make it true.

I just don't see how you can make that claim without any proof or evidence, yet you insist that Elizabeth and Gabriel never went to Six Flags, also without evidence.

But...to each his own, I guess. I do appreciate all different opinions, which is why I read here.

ETA: it is okay to have opinions or theories here at WS, but we have to specify when it is opinion, or we try to provide links to back up what we post.

 

[ShowboatMB]

When I said "seen togehter" I guess what I should have said was "there is no video or photographs of them together."

They were seen together by the babysitter, maybe the pizza delivery man, maybe one of the workers at the restaurants nearby. I don't doubt them!

 

[BeanE]

Bean E, when you watch the video of Lisa Peters, it sounds like she believes that EJ drove to Six Flags. If there was no video of her there, I would hope LE would have told them there was no video of her there. Also, I wonder if the family could contact security at Six Flags and get any kind of info.

I've already contacted the family in regards to this. I'll let you know you when they get back to me.

I really hope that nobody is giving unconfirmed info to the family as if it is fact. That just leads them on wild goose chases, and it's just plain cruel.

Thanks, vj.

 

[BeanE]

When I said "seen togehter" I guess what I should have said was "there is no video or photographs of them together."

They were seen together by the babysitter, maybe the pizza delivery man, maybe one of the workers at the restaurants nearby. I don't doubt them!

Thanks. Can you tell me what leads you to believe the babysitter was at the hotel prior to Dec 23, rather than on Dec 23 as the housekeeper stated?

 

[JBean]

If anyone would like to post an as insider to the family or on behalf of someone you absolutely MUST be verified by the owner of the forum.
This is for the benefit of the family.
[email protected]

I am closing this for just a moment to make sure everyone sees this note.

 

[JBean]

ok now that I can see who has read the thread and when I am not worried about anyone being unaware of the rules.
thanks.

 

[not_my_kids]

Didn't LE verify that those pictures in the hotel were the 26th, not the 22nd?

 

[NewMommy09]

Didn't LE verify that those pictures in the hotel were the 26th, not the 22nd?

What I've always seen reported is that the last two pictures on the camera were from the 26th. It's possible one/some of the other pics are from the other dates though.

eta: I'm not really sure where the last known sighting on the 22nd is coming from. Any idea's?

 

[jenny1976]

When I said "seen togehter" I guess what I should have said was "there is no video or photographs of them together."

They were seen together by the babysitter, maybe the pizza delivery man, maybe one of the workers at the restaurants nearby. I don't doubt them!

So, you say there is no "video or photograph of them TOGETHER." And you are also saying that they were NEVER at six flags, or there is no video evidence of them at six flags at all. Right?

Or are you saying the video from six flags shows one of them, but not both of them together?

I'm confused.....AND disappointed!

 

[momtective]

I'm sure my employer wouldn't be thrilled about me posting on a web forum regarding the case, so lets just say that I've been following the case. If the board ops want to verify who I am, that's cool, but I'd rather not say.

As far as sightings, I'm talking about physical evidence (camera, video, etc.) I'm not doubting the babysitter... even thought I think some of what she has said is hyped up for the camera. That's my opinion. I'm also not doubting the pizza deliveryman.

The Tempe police have said that elizabeth took the pictures of gabriel on her digital camera, which was found with her in the Maimi hostel. That's close enough to prove that the two were together at the HomeGate Suites on December 26th.

There is no video/camera evidence that ej and gabriel visited six flags or the parking lot. It is simply not true and it's frustrating as heck that some people report it as fact.

I guess what they say is true. If something gets repeated over and over again, it will eventually be accpeted as fact.

Welcome to WS ShowBoatMB~~~:wave:~~~
I hope that you will be verified by Tricia and that you will hang around. Please don't let our tough interrogation scare you away:crazy:
We are at the point here where we absolutely crave any valid information that might lead to finding Gabriel. If you were there, if you have information that could possibly clear up some of the confusion, then I'm all ears.
You will find that WS is full of dedicated posters and those of us who hang out on Gabriel's page desperately want to see him found alive and well.

Can you tell us if you have seen any of the video that is said to exist from the Homegate or surrounding restaurants?

I'm sure there are a few of us here that would love to pm you but you can't receive pm's until you have 50 posts. You can post in a game thread to get your post count up.

Again, welcome!

 

[captdj]

Nancy Grace
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BOARD: Well, it is very shaky. We don`t have a specific — we don`t even have a hair color or a size. We know that the Hispanic male that she met with twice is apparently in his late 20s. And she also had a meeting with a couple that the witnesses believe are in their late 30s.

Now, we know in the past, Elizabeth Johnson has told police investigators that she met with a couple there, that there was — this was not in a meeting with investigators, but this was in an interview, I believe, with Tammi Smith.

During the jailhouse interview, she said that she met a couple there, one was a woman with blond hair. Another one was a larger Hispanic man. That fits this. So you know, this is some consistency in some of her stories for the first time. This is starting to match up here.[/I]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1002/01/ng.01.html

BBM

More than one witness:woohoo:

 

[DaneBramage]

Food for thought:
"During the jailhouse interview, she said that she met a couple there, one was a woman with blond hair. Another one was a larger Hispanic man."

What could be more opposite than JS and TPS?

 

[BeanE]

BBM

More than one witness:woohoo:

Great observation

 

[BeanE]

Okay, we need to proceed with caution on the Six Flags video. I just heard back from LP34 and she said. Well I won't say what she said LOL.

They're having a meeting with LE in the morning, and one of their questions will be to get a good, reliable, final answer on whether a Six Flags video exists.

Previously info they've been given has been conflicting, so proceed with caution.