The Last Happy Hour, book by Charles Joseph Hackett

[truthspider]

BBM

Thank you for this! It sounds like you had to pay for access to it, and I'm really grateful that you paid for it and shared it here.

I bolded those two sentences above for two reasons:
1. A lawn seed company would definitely use burlap bags. Perhaps there were a bunch of old bags that were kept by the father after he moved, and they ended up with CPH?

yes i paid for all of the old newsday articles.

from what i have been able to gather, either the father, CJH, moved in with the son and fam and they all moved into the same house in OB in 1991 or the father and son moved to OB at the same time but into their own houses...

how f#%$^ stupid would you have to be to use burlap that is so unique? I could totally see that happening with this comfortable clown though. After all they are a family infatuated with parks, county, state and national, Henry David Thoreau, hiking, environmentalism, cleaning up the beaches, and we all know where these bodies have been dumped; on county or state park property. lol



from one of my old posts:


Captree State Park - Shannan Gilbert

Hempstead Lake State Park - "Peaches"

Jones Beach State Park - Unidentified remains, gender unknown.

JFK Memorial Wildlife Sanctuary - skull, gender unknown.

Gilgo Beach Park - Gilgo 4, asian male, j. taylor, manorville female #2, child.

Peconic River County Park - J. Taylor, Manorville female #2.

LI State Pine Barrens Preserve - Manorville Male #2.

Dennistown Bell Park - decomposed body missing a head. (not convinced this is LISK)

James Baird State Park - "Lotus Flowers"


(what's really interesting is that if you look at the exact locations of the remains, the dumper seems to REALLY know where the border is between park and non park property)
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...464323262376358.0004a24253ae4f383c01d&t=h&z=9

It's pretty clear that the suspect has knowledge of and is comfortable in Long Island's County and State Parks. I think he is an avid user of such parks and probably knows the ins and outs of their regulation, access, hours of operation, and if they are patrolled by anyone and during what hours.
He may partake in activities such as hiking, fishing, birding or just getting away from it all and spending time in parks. I think his experience with parks makes him comfortable lying about his reason for being in a park and generally using his interest in the park as a cover for criminal activities.

Finally, I believe his acute interest in parks and experience as a Suffolk County Director carried over onto his family, especially his childrens lives and their work experience.

the following are verifiable facts about Mr. Hyde:

child #1:
Has worked in Robert Moses State Park (at the light house), and is currently a National Park Ranger out west.

child #2:
has stated "I have an obsession with National Parks. I want to learn more. ALL THE TIME."

child #3:
Works at Captree State Park on charter fishing boats

 

[PAXIMUS]

http://www.oakbeachcivicassociation.com/kids


Kids in OB during burlap sack races, hmmm.

 

[marie-chantal]

http://www.oakbeachcivicassociation.com/kids


Kids in OB during burlap sack races, hmmm.

There's something written on the sack used by the little girl in the middle/right in the photo. Does anyone have a way to enlarge this photo to see what it says?

Also, is there any way to find out where the association got these sacks for this event? It's my guess that they were provided by one person-that's usually how these type of events work-one person supplies tables, another provides burlap sacks, and others are in charge of food, etc. It's possible that these sacks have been used for more than one event; but if there's a way to trace the origin of the sacks, it might tell us something.

 

[MrsPC]

if you look at the other kids picture on that website -- it was taken in 1974

 

[Clem Snide]

http://www.oakbeachcivicassociation.com/kids


Kids in OB during burlap sack races, hmmm.

So you're saying that we're not looking for a single killer, but a gang of bloodthirsty children pretending to be taking part in a sock hop competition? Of course! It's been right in front of our eyes this whole time!

I kid, I kid.

It's pretty clear that the suspect has knowledge of and is comfortable in Long Island's County and State Parks. I think he is an avid user of such parks and probably knows the ins and outs of their regulation, access, hours of operation, and if they are patrolled by anyone and during what hours.
He may partake in activities such as hiking, fishing, birding or just getting away from it all and spending time in parks. I think his experience with parks makes him comfortable lying about his reason for being in a park and generally using his interest in the park as a cover for criminal activities.

Yeah. Plus, I could see a law enforcement wannabe getting a job at the park district as some kind of enforcer of rules. It would be a great cover. Plus, he would have endless hours off by himself where he could be placing phone calls and trolling on a computer. If you look at the S.T.A.L.K. inc profile, you could easily see that character in this type of a job.

http://www.stalkinc.com/profile6.html

What do we know about the lifeguard who screamed at GC at the press conference?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

A lifeguard screamed at GC during a presser? Can anyone give me the bones of that story, please?

 

[Droopy]

A lifeguard screamed at GC during a presser? Can anyone give me the bones of that story, please?

Here you go MK

http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-shannan-gilbert-mother-fbi,0,6430871.story?track=rss

About 2 minutes in a lifeguard confronts GC about the gatehouse tape. It is believed that the lifeguard is JS and based on a post he left on a persons facebook. I don't have the screenshot of the facebook post, but I did copy and paste it into my notes.

Here it is. Nice talking to you today...I don't think Gus liked me asking about "the missing video". tuesday december 20 9:29 pm. That post was deleted shortly after someone on the LISK site posted the facebook link and claimed that flukeyou is JS.

 

[Sillybilly]

Here you go MK

http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-shannan-gilbert-mother-fbi,0,6430871.story?track=rss

About 2 minutes in a lifeguard confronts GC about the gatehouse tape. It is believed that the lifeguard is JS and based on a post he left on a persons facebook. I don't have the screenshot of the facebook post, but I did copy and paste it into my notes.

Here it is. Nice talking to you today...I don't think Gus liked me asking about "the missing video". tuesday december 20 9:29 pm. That post was deleted shortly after someone on the LISK site posted the facebook link and claimed that flukeyou is JS.

Sorry, can someone please refresh my memory on who JS is? Thanks !!

I know he may be the lifeguard, i know he may be Fluke, but can't recall who he may be in real life

 

[truthspider]

Sorry, can someone please refresh my memory on who JS is? Thanks !!

I know he may be the lifeguard, i know he may be Fluke, but can't recall who he may be in real life

sounds like 'yosef car-lease'.

In my opinon he has been close enough to ground zero of this case and knows some of the key players well enough to somewhat "put it all together"

what is for certain is that tooclosetoohome (BH) really hates this kid.

 

[Redbird]

One thing I have to say about Flukeyou is I don't believe anyone has proven any of the info he has revealed at the LISK site to be wrong.

 

[Clone101]

sounds like 'yosef car-lease'.

In my opinon he has been close enough to ground zero of this case and knows some of the key players well enough to somewhat "put it all together"

what is for certain is that tooclosetoohome (BH) really hates this kid.

I searched this person and couldnt find a facebook and only found mob ties with the same first and last name.. Is this his dad or gramps or family member?

 

[Aleph]

what is for certain is that tooclosetoohome (BH) really hates this kid.

It's a slow week indeed if I'm looking at LISK.com but, be that as it may, how do we know that tooclosetohome = BH? And BH = the wife of Dr. CPH, correct?

 

[Clem Snide]

One thing I have to say about Flukeyou is I don't believe anyone has proven any of the info he has revealed at the LISK site to be wrong.

Maybe not, but on multiple occasions I requested that he give a synopsis of what he thinks happened that night, and he hasn't done so. He makes accusations and is sometimes kind of vague about what he thinks he knows.

I think if Fluke talks about the case as if he knows something for sure, he should just come out with it. If not, then I question his veracity.

 

[truthspider]

Maybe not, but on multiple occasions I requested that he give a synopsis of what he thinks happened that night, and he hasn't done so. He makes accusations and is sometimes kind of vague about what he thinks he knows.

I think if Fluke talks about the case as if he knows something for sure, he should just come out with it. If not, then I question his veracity.

I don't think he really reads anyone's posts or questions, seems like he just logs in when he is frustrated with the case and spouts the stuff he knows from real life relationships. He's not a sleuther so I don't think he feels the need to verify his claims to people online (who are not locals).

somebody very early on told me tooclosetohome was BH. only after reading their posts over a long period of time did I build confidence that it was. They accused each other of knowing their identities and airing it online, then they finally did, and as of recent months, they don't seem to even hide it anymore.
There is no technical way for anyone to prove that is who they are, but if you follow (or go back and read all their posts ugg) their argument, eventually you will see or believe that it is indeed them. I did do some basic facebook and other googling to semi-corroborate the identity of JS and I feel comfortable saying it is him.

fluke lives very close to cph and knows cph jr, i think they worked together etc, fluke has aired lots of details about the family.

 

[Clem Snide]

Well what's your take on Fluke? You're a local, correct? Admittedly, I rarely go to that board anymore due to all the nastiness and nut balls.

 

[truthspider]

Well what's your take on Fluke? You're a local, correct? Admittedly, I rarely go to that board anymore due to all the nastiness and nut balls.

I don't live on Jones Island (the island that oak beach and gilgo are on) but live close enough and use ocean parkway regularly. My take on him is that he knows so much because of his prior relationship with the family and relationship to the son. He also has spoken to LE in detail about the investigation and can determine who has been lying (GC) and who hasn't (BA). He seems to also have gleaned info from detectives which confirmed what he (and probably cph jr) have suspected about some of the details: original location of the remains and their subsequent movement. He is probably the closest person to the SK who doesn't have conflicting feelings about his guilt ie. he isn't family.

I had already made up my mind back in April, and I thought fluke was just another looney tune on LISK, until his statements started to get confirmed: the A&E special phone calls on record, and SG in the marsh out back.

What I am still yet to "buy" is the group aspect. fluke says its a group thing, I think there is only 1 killer, and if there was ever involvement on any level by others they didn't know anyone was going to end up dead. but then again, i thought flukes previous statements where hollywood driven and they turned out to be true or now believable.

 

[Redbird]

I think the story of the woman running and screaming that a group of men were trying to kill her could be related to the poker parties that the sex traffic ring allegedly set up and not related to the SK.

 

[Droopy]

sounds like 'yosef car-lease'.

In my opinon he has been close enough to ground zero of this case and knows some of the key players well enough to somewhat "put it all together"

what is for certain is that tooclosetoohome (BH) really hates this kid.

If BH is indeed 2close2home, I could see why she would hate Flukeyou. He has repeatedly implicated her husband as a SK. Claimed the whole family is hiding information and has implicated nearly the whole community as being involved in hiding the truth. If I was her I'd probably feel the same way.

 

[Dwntwnslim]

It's a slow week indeed if I'm looking at LISK.com but, be that as it may, how do we know that tooclosetohome = BH? And BH = the wife of Dr. CPH, correct?

I was wondering the same thing myself.

 

[SherlockHomes]

Tooclosetohome has a red handle that if you drag your mouse over shows a url link as "neighborsofdr.hackett"