The Neighbors Yard

[Bibliophile]

Nancy may have been involved in birth control, but I can't see Mr. Perp doing that.

Oh I don't think he did it out of consideration for Kaycee - I think he did it for him. He couldn't risk that many pregnancies, births or children. Too many arrangements to make, too much trouble, too much of a risk of something going wrong and too much noise. He wanted the sexual thrills - not the responsibilities.

It was all about him.

 

[arielilane]

That monster needs to provide LE with the names of those "men".

 

[mysteriew]

A neighboring house was also searched but Contra Costa Sheriff's Office spokesman Jimmy Lee emphasized that Garrido's neighbor, Damon Robinson, was not a suspect. Rather, Robinson's house was being searched because of Garrido's connection to it.

"We know Phillip Garrido had access to the property," Lee said. "It looks like he lived in a shed on that property." The house was vacant in 2006, but Lee said authorities did not know when Garrido might have lived there
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_13236039

 

[Misfitdolly]

Nancy may have been involved in birth control, but I can't see Mr. Perp doing that.

If he was having parties in which men lined up to have sex with Jaycee that could be a reason for him to be sure to get her birth control, he wouldn't want her having someone else's baby.

 

[DJ3569]

I drive past the Garrido's residence everyday on my way to my parents home and I never saw a bunch of men partying and lined up in the yard. He has kept his dirty secret for 18 years and he did not keep it by inviting every pervert in the area over to party and have sex with her!!(Jaycee) He may be sick but he played his game well look how long he got away with it......

 

[LinasK]

Cadaver dogs join police in hunt for links to killings
By Mike Taugher
Contra Costa Times
Posted: 08/30/2009 08:08:16 PM PDT
Updated: 08/31/2009 12:01:20 PM PDT
Searching continued today, though with fewer law enforcement officers, at the home of Phillip and Nancy Garrido, where police say kidnap victim Jaycee Dugard and her two young daughters lived for years in hidden backyard squalor.
The Garridos are now jailed on suspicion of kidnapping and a host of other rape and abuse charges.
This morning a chain-link fence had been erected at the Garrido's front property line and police had nailed boards over the single-story home's windows to prevent trespassing.
Dozens of media crews remained camped out on rural Walnut Avenue, where they had been since Thursday.
On Sunday police had extended their search to a next door neighbor's yard as they looked for evidence linking the Garridos to a number of unsolved homicides. Neighbors had told police that Phillip Garrido served as a caretaker at one point in the once-vacant home next to his.
The Sunday search for evidence involved more than 20 law enforcement officers moving in and around the Garridos' backyard — a collection of worn-out tents, sheds and piles of rubbish where Dugard, 29, and her 15- and 11-year-old daughters are believed to have lived, hidden by tarps and dense brush from neighbors and even a visiting parole agent.
Authorities had intended to complete the search late Sunday, but reported that evidence had emerged that would require further examination of the properties. more at link: http://www.contracostatimes.com/top-stories/ci_13236464?nclick_check=1

 

[Californian]

From The Camden Chronicle, Camden, TN


Local couple lived next to kidnapping suspect Phillip Garrido
Janet Higdon, staff writer
09/22/09

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The Sheltons got a surprise recently when Glenda’s daughter called from California and asked them if they had seen the news. Their former neighbor, Phillip Garrido and his wife Nancy had been arrested and charged with kidnapping, conspiracy, and rape of a minor.

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Mike and Glenda lived next door to Garrido on Walnut Ave. in Antioch, Ca. from 1996 through 1998. The Garridos and the Sheltons shared a driveway but little else. Both of the Sheltons have met and talked to Garrido but they both describe him as being “weird”. Mike stated that you could tell there was something funny about him because he was always real defensive. He didn’t want anybody to go near the yard and nobody was allowed behind the gate. Mike recalls one time the lock on the gate was broken and Garrido appeared to be almost in a panic until it was fixed.

Mike Shelton rented the house next door to the Garridos from a guy named Jack. Phillip’s mother was a retired real estate agent and handled the transaction for Jack. The Sheltons believe that Jack lived on the Garrido property but they cannot say for sure. Phillip’s mother also lived on the property with her son and the Sheltons feel that the mother must have known something about Jaycee and the children. It is unclear whether or not the mother is still alive.

Mike states that there was no way you could tell the compound was there because it was completely enclosed behind an 8-foot privacy fence. He also says the area was a rural area the was overgrown with brush. Garrido ran a printing business out of his home but he always took his orders away from the home in a gray Dodge van. Mike said it was always quiet next door and you would never know that anything of this magnitude was going on.
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Full article: http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?pnpID=319&NewsID=967002&CategoryID=8373&show=localnews&om=1

This article might bring up a few questions. For one, is it new or old info that they state PG's mom was a real estate agent? (I've also heard her described as a teacher and a janitor (??) )

 

[Natal]

It also tells us she was lucid enough to have known what was going on.

 

[kbl8201]

It also tells us she was lucid enough to have known what was going on.

everoyne in that house and neighborhood was lucid. they just didnt seem to care.........the woman who called 911 in 2006 just let it drop after that. how do you let it drop? you see little kids living in tents in a mans backyard, a man you decribed to the 911 dispatcher as a sex addict, and you just let it drop after that? i dont get it.

 

[jjenny]

everoyne in that house and neighborhood was lucid. they just didnt seem to care.........the woman who called 911 in 2006 just let it drop after that. how do you let it drop? you see little kids living in tents in a mans backyard, a man you decribed to the 911 dispatcher as a sex addict, and you just let it drop after that? i dont get it.

What exactly was she supposed to do? A policeman showed up, talked to Garrido for a short period of time and left. Why would she think it was going to turn out differently next time she called in?

 

[kbl8201]

What exactly was she supposed to do? A policeman showed up, talked to Garrido for a short period of time and left. Why would she think it was going to turn out differently next time she called in?

get a camera and take pictures.....jesus. give them some proof. dont take a cops incompetence over what you see with your own eyes

 

[Natal]

Dubious living conditions are probably pretty common there, it's not like its an upscale neighborhood.

It also seems the kind of area where if you cause too much grief for your neighbors, bad things will happen to you.

 

[kbl8201]

Dubious living conditions are probably pretty common there, it's not like its an upscale neighborhood.

It also seems the kind of area where if you cause too much grief for your neighbors, bad things will happen to you.

remind me to never move there then jeesh:furious:

 

[i.b.nora]

I have heard previously that when the Garrido mom was active and healthy, she was a real estate agent. I have never heard that she was teacher or a janitor.

 

[Stephens]

@kbl8201: That woman who called 9-1-1, I believe, was a girlfriend of one of the neighbors and she's no longer in a relationship with that man. I don't know what more she could have done considering the police failed horribly, even lying to her telling her a warrant was needed (The deputy should have done a background check and the PO should have known about that call). Remember, Garrido is a violent man. This woman, who had a child, was likely scared off.

She tried. She did the right thing. The police lied to her, telling her there was nothing to be done. She assumed they were right and she left. The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the CC sheriff's department. They couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.

 

[westerncolorado]

You are absolutely right! Most folks, tend to believe that whatever LE says is law. She did her part and then mistakenly believed LE did their part, never dreaming that they didn't even begin to scratch the surface!

 

[kbl8201]

@kbl8201: That woman who called 9-1-1, I believe, was a girlfriend of one of the neighbors and she's no longer in a relationship with that man. I don't know what more she could have done considering the police failed horribly, even lying to her telling her a warrant was needed (The deputy should have done a background check and the PO should have known about that call). Remember, Garrido is a violent man. This woman, who had a child, was likely scared off.

She tried. She did the right thing. The police lied to her, telling her there was nothing to be done. She assumed they were right and she left. The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the CC sheriff's department. They couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.

thanks for the clarification stephens. this was bungled so big by the authhorities from the start..........from the jaycee end (thinking carl killer her and buried her somewhere) to the parole officer to these keystone cops.......and of course nothing is being done to reprimand any of them either.

 

[Natal]

They allways look at the family first because in most cases it is someone in the family or someone known to the family that is responsible. Attacks by complete strangers is relatively rare.

 

[kbl8201]

They allways look at the family first because in most cases it is someone in the family or someone known to the family that is responsible. Attacks by complete strangers is relatively rare.

you right. they have to look at the step dad in this case. but they cant look at him to the exclusion of all other possibillities......a match to the car he described and local sex offenders, or the sketch that matches his wife, and this could have been over befort it started

 

[kbl8201]

you right. they have to look at the step dad in this case. but they cant look at him to the exclusion of all other possibillities......a match to the car he described and local sex offenders, or the sketch that matches his wife, and this could have been over befort it started

a little extra to this.....look at the elizabeth smart case. they focused in on the non violent petty thief from the start, to the exclusion of all other suspects......thought elizabeth was dead. i thought this is what the fbi had criminal profilers for? they must have been sleeping on the job.