The State Rests in the State v Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #10

[Linda7NJ]

I choose #2.

That last pic of him alive...he appears to be seated in the shower with hoist arms resting on his knees..and he looked surprised in a way. JMO



I think she had a gun pointed at him. After the first shot she realizes he is not dead..and when she tried to shoot again the gun jammed.

I am one who doesn't believe she came with both weapons..just the gun.

JMO

So you believe the knife was part of the sex play? Where is the silky rope she claims? According to her iirc the knife was all the way in the other room...on the bed.

 

[LotusPawprint]

Sad part is the really ugly that will said about Travis is yet to come. I feel for his Family and Friends. Especially his Sisters who have been visibly upset in the Courtroom. Gonna be tough for them :rose:

It's going to be rough. I just hope the defense case is relatively quick and the prosecutor cleans up the witnesses so his family and friends can have this part behind them, finally.
I really hate how certain defense attorneys frame their cases, ripping deceased victims apart so callously... even though I understand their only concern is getting their client off, to completely distort the truth in such vicious ways is so ugly.

 

[Bravo]

I forgot about the ninjas. Doubt my loofah will help fight off the ninjas. I'll have to look into the best way to combat bathroom ninjas.

Bullet proof door with many many deadbolts? Rule of thumb. Dont cheese off the Ninjas :waitasec:lol

 

[Linda7NJ]

He could have been doing anything at the time. Its hard to say. It takes a lot to stab someone and a lot to kill with a knife, despite what you may see on TV. I don't think she would have been comfortable starting with a knife. Just my opinion.

Wow Travis body sure proves she got very comfortable, very quick.

Have you seen the pics ? She almost decapitated him

 

[nanny1]

The break really concerns me. These people aren't sitting at home with earplugs in and blinders on. They have to go to work and listen to people around the watercooler or have folks come up and comment. They have to go to the grocery store with Natl Enquirer staring them in the face. They have family members/friends who are bursting to tell them what they've found out. And this is all in addition to each juror fighting their own curiosity to just glance online or at a magazine or newspaper.

And it's not just the break. I just don't understand why - in such a high profile death penalty case - these jurors aren't sequestered. :waitasec:

I am also concerned about the break..Does anyone know why this is such a long break ?

 

[Snoopy1]

How do you explain the fact he was down near the ground already when he was shot?

I think when Travis got in the shower, she got dressed. I think she duct taped that gun under her shirt....insurance purposes. She stabbed him in the heart....when he didn't immediate die she kept at it. She didn't shoot him until after she dragged him back to the bathroom.

Im with you here - except the duct tape theory - no one has said a PEEP about the duct tape... unless I missed it of course, which is possible.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I am also concerned about the break..Does anyone know why this is such a long break ?

I have things to do? J/k lol

 

[Linda7NJ]

Im with you here - except the duct tape theory - no one has said a PEEP about the duct tape... unless I missed it of course, which is possible.

No, you're right. It's just an evidence pic taken on the laundry room floor. A loosely crumpled strip of duct tape. Hasn't come up in court.

 

[dgfred]

He could have been doing anything at the time. Its hard to say. It takes a lot to stab someone and a lot to kill with a knife, despite what you may see on TV. I don't think she would have been comfortable starting with a knife. Just my opinion.

But then you have the shot, gun jam, heavily bleeding wounds near the sink, heavy blood pools down the hall.... then BACK into the shower.

Somehow he made it to the sink area with a major wound causing blood spray.

This would not have been the gun shot wound IMO. If the gun shot was first, would the blood be running straight down his face after all the stabbing and throat cutting afterwards?

 

[Curious Me]

I don't imagine the jurors putting much weight on the hair dye. It's not like you can prove why she did that, but JMO. I do need help thinking all this out like a jury member thinks.

Did she steal a gun from her grandparents with premeditation? That, I think will be a big question for jurors. Defense could say she didn't even steal a gun, so prove it. Defense could say she did take a gun because Travis had abused her before. The gun was not found and yet is being used as a fact she had the gun. He was shot with a gun of the same caliber. What will jurors think?

 

[Snoopy1]

No, you're right. It's just an evidence pic taken on the laundry room floor. A loosely crumpled strip of duct tape. Hasn't come up in court.

Thank you!

And I know its not just me that thinks of CA when I hear duct tape.... :banghead:

 

[BD1]

The blinking thing: isn't there some study saying sociopaths blink less often than regular folks?

 

[dani]

Back to the Defense's case - premeditated?

You can argue the hairdye was to "spice up her hope to lure him to sex"
You can argue the photos were a "normal event"
You can argue that she was dressed while he was in the shower because she simply got dressed first

I can't 'splain away:
her insistence on the white rental car
the front plate being removed and the back one upside down
the coincidence of her GPs gun being stolen just before this trip
the lack of her ever acknowledging that she did it in a moment of passion/emotion etc

…and her voice mails to Travis AFTER she already killed him in "self-defense", not realizing she would have to change her story about "not being anywhere near Arizona". (This is even discounting the "Ninjas did it".)

I think it's great when she provides the nails for her own coffin. :great:

 

[Snoopy1]

But then you have the shot, gun jam, heavily bleeding wounds near the sink, heavy blood pools down the hall.... then BACK into the shower.

Somehow he made it to the sink area with a major wound causing blood spray.

This would not have been the gun shot wound IMO. If the gun shot was first, would the blood be running straight down his face after all the stabbing and throat cutting afterwards?

I agree 1000000000%

 

[David_Lohr]

Wow Travis body sure proves she got very comfortable, very quick.

Have you seen the pics ? She almost decapitated him

That does not mean anything. With that logic you could say she must have had previous experience.

If your going to kill someone and you have a choice between a knife and a gun, 9 times out of ten you are going to use the gun.

She stole the gun to kill him. That is why the elaborate theft. It jammed, whatever and she got scared so she stabbed the heck out of him. He was still breathing so she cut his throat.

If we were talking about a man doing the killing (no not a sexist comment) I might lean a little toward the kinife first (not much). But with her, I would put my money on the gun first. He could easily over power her and she knew that so why risk the knife first?

 

[nursebeeme]

here it is:

Jodi Arias; the sequence of events - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

bumping this up...

 

[Chanler]

Some people want a certain color car for other reasons.

Hair dye? That could be many reasons. Who wasn't going to recognize her?

We don't know where the weapons were. Say he slapped her... then she goes and gets one. Then attacks.

Of course she is going to lie... she didn't have any other options but to call the authorities IMO.

Seems if you take out the stolen gun... things are not so clear cut.

Hi, DGFred. The cumulative impact of her lies far outweighs any single defense rationalization. Her preparations and deceptions for trip, multiple stories, and post-homicide performances are damning. In decades and decades of trial-watching, I hadn't previously seen a defendant self-destruct themselves so relentlessly.

 

[Linda7NJ]

But then you have the shot, gun jam, heavily bleeding wounds near the sink, heavy blood pools down the hall.... then BACK into the shower.

Somehow he made it to the sink area with a major wound causing blood spray.

This would not have been the gun shot wound IMO. If the gun shot was first, would the blood be running straight down his face after all the stabbing and throat cutting afterwards?

How about this...lets say for some reason he was on the floor, she shoots him, he gets up, stands in front of sink....when is he stabbed in the heart? He's struggling at the sink....his back is to her. He falls and starts to crawl...how does the heart get stabbed? Where and when does that wound fit in?

 

[David_Lohr]

But then you have the shot, gun jam, heavily bleeding wounds near the sink, heavy blood pools down the hall.... then BACK into the shower.

Somehow he made it to the sink area with a major wound causing blood spray.

This would not have been the gun shot wound IMO. If the gun shot was first, would the blood be running straight down his face after all the stabbing and throat cutting afterwards?

You hve to keep in mind this happened somewhat quickly. Gunshot wounds do not always cause immediate blood loss.

 

[thistle]

I agree that Travis's friends & family testimony should be able to counter any negative picture that the defense team would try to mount, & I think the only one of JA's friends that we've heard so far (who was a prosecution witness) just proves how she is able to present a good facade, she's sweet & calm, but the other evidence is there that she is obsessive, focused on a relationship w/ him, & could quickly try to put him behind her, after she murdered him...