The state Rests in The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #12

[LadyEdith]

I know...good God. Do you think she did?

How does she know "they" didn't?

When she was speaking to Flores in interrogation she said "I know my prints are all over that place, I was there all the time". This is before she realized her palm print in blood was there.

 

[FrayedKnot]

Whoa whoa whoa. Zach saw Travis Thurs morning? Jodi would have already been there.

And Zach did laundry on Saturday? Was it at a laundromat?

Sumpin' ain't right, here.

ETA: no WAY did Zach see Travis on Thursday the 5th. Travis was dead.

 

[FrayedKnot]

I think they found her fingerprint on the dryer, IIRC, which they called the "drying machine". I don't know why but "drying machine" sounded silly to me.

And he keeps spelling it "deluded" blood . :?

 

[nursebeeme]

investigative report:

dang! Last computer activity was at 1619 (4PM) not 0400

(was this testified to? I cannot recall??)

 

[nursebeeme]

investigative report:

I didn't realize Travis' sister was a police officer

 

[nursebeeme]

investigative report:

I didn't realize Travis' sister was a police officer

 

[FrayedKnot]

Help! I'm confused.

Wasn't Travis murdered about 5:30pm on Wed, June 4?

How are his roommates seeing him both Wed pm and Thurs morning?

 

[FrayedKnot]

investigative report:

I didn't realize Travis' sister was a police officer

I just read that on, I think, one of the memorial blogs written by a friend just after his death. I was surprised, too!

 

[popsicle]

So apparently JA told the Detective she wanted to talk to a lawyer before giving a statement. Then she called him back on 6/24 and said she regretted saying that and she would be willing to speak to them. lol I bet because she couldn't get any information about the investigation from them so she had to talk.

 

[nursebeeme]

investigative report: last text was to his work buddy about his conference call. all other calls and texts (JODI) were not answered by Travis.

 

[FrayedKnot]

Sorry, guys for just running on today but I have alot of questions and I am home sick so plz bear with.....

Did TA wear the temple underwear all the time, do we know, or just when he entered the temple. Anyone know what is the modern custom for the Mormon underwear?

And this is kind of delicate, but in looking at pics of the old-timey sacred underwear, they have symbols of a "v" and a backwards "L" on them. In the awful shower pics (post mortem) Travis has a wound that looks like a "v" cut into his belly. Is that just a coincidence or is it possible JA did that on purpose?

Or maybe I need to step away for awhile, lol.

 

[popsicle]

Glancing thru that, I get the impression that Zach works from 8-8 or leaves for work at 8, not sure which. But he apparently did his laundry that morning before work.

 

[popsicle]

Sorry, guys for just running on today but I have alot of questions and I am home sick so plz bear with.....

Did TA wear the temple underwear all the time, do we know, or just when he entered the temple. Anyone know what is the modern custom for the Mormon underwear?

And this is kind of delicate, but in looking at pics of the old-timey sacred underwear, they have symbols of a "v" and a backwards "L" on them. In the awful shower pics (post mortem) Travis has a wound that looks like a "v" cut into his belly. Is that just a coincidence or is it possible JA did that on purpose?

Or maybe I need to step away for awhile, lol.

Sorry you are sick.

Reading the autopsy report I didn't get the impression he had a V shaped cut in his belly. jmo

 

[Isabelle]

WOW, really good info on there regarding the roommates. Both were there at the time Travis was found and also Zachary's gf. I didn't know that

I was surprised at that too, but think I confused that with the time Travis was killed and neither one was home at that time. That was a great read!

 

[FrayedKnot]

"According to Mormon doctrine, the marks in the garments are sacred symbols.[16] One proposed element of the symbolism was a link to the Square and Compasses, the symbols of freemasonry,[17] to which Joseph Smith, Jr. had been initiated about seven weeks prior to his introduction of the Endowment ceremony.[18]

Thus, the V-shaped symbol on the left breast was referred to as "The Compasses", while the reverse-L-shaped symbol on the right breast was referred to by early church leaders as "The Square".[19]

According to a description by LDS Church President John Taylor in 1883, the "Square" represents "the justice and fairness of our Heavenly Father, that we will receive all the good that is coming to us or all that we earn, on a square deal", and the "Compasses" represents "the North Star".[20] In addition to the Square and Compasses, Taylor described the other symbols as follows: the collar represented the idea that the Lord's "yoke is easy and [his] burden is light", or the "Crown of the Priesthood"; the double-knotted strings represented "the Trinity" and "the marriage covenant"; the navel mark represents "strength in the navel and marrow in the bones"; and the knee mark represents "that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is the Christ".[21]"


It's from Wiki, so grain of salt, but....

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_garment

 

[FrayedKnot]

Sorry you are sick.

Reading the autopsy report I didn't get the impression he had a V shaped cut in his belly. jmo

I saw that missing in the autopsy report, too, so maybe the V shape in the picture was (sorry) some decomp or fluid making that mark. It was pretty dark.

 

[Isabelle]

The portion of the brain which was still intact had no apparent injury. A portion of the frontal lobe was liquid due to decomposition. Dr. Horn said he looked at slices of the brain to determine injury so I would think the rest of the brain showed less decomposition than the area where the bullet passed through. The injuries on TA's body show signs of decomposition, more so than the rest of his body so I would think the same is true of the brain. That is what I am understanding from the point of view of not being a medical expert. jmo

My concern is with the intact state of the brain covering.

 

[atthelake]

investigative report:

dang! Last computer activity was at 1619 (4PM) not 0400

(was this testified to? I cannot recall??)

Link? Or are you watching something other tha InSession. Tia.

 

[nursebeeme]

Help! I'm confused.

Wasn't Travis murdered about 5:30pm on Wed, June 4?

How are his roommates seeing him both Wed pm and Thurs morning?

I am confused too.. but I think the guys were too

I *do* think it is possible that Jodi did not show up at 4am.. she well could have gotten there shortly before the sex photos... (as clearly Travis was not at his computer watching a youtube video at 0400 if the last activity was at 1615)

 

[nursebeeme]

Link? Or are you watching something other tha InSession. Tia.

I am referencing the investigative report that was linked (that is why I put "investigative report:")