The state Rests in The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #12

[Boodles]

I am re-watching the cross of ME, and it occurs to me that the sequence of the wounds is very important to them. I believe they already know the sequence, and are going to use that (either by Jodi's testimony, or in their closing) to bolster their self defense claim. Since we are only making an educated guess to try to figure that out, they have the upper hand in that area. I don't think it has anything to do with the cruelty factor, and what would it have to do with the premeditation?
Why would the defense go to so much trouble in their cross since they acknowledge her guilt? I think they are trying to tailor the testimony to the scenario she has given them - or in the alternative, at least the story they believe will (weather from her or not) will bolster self defense.

I agree with you. I believe they need the gunshot wound to be first to support whatever story they plan to present.

I know it's twisted logic, but I think (posted this yesterday) they might present something like this:

Something happened and Jodi shot him. BUT THIS SHOT WAS NOT FATAL and he was still up and about, thus the defense going on about people walking around with an arrow in their head, etc. Then he came after her and tried to kill her, so she grabbed the knife in the bedroom and started stabbing him.

Someone responded saying this would not be legally possible as a self defense claim if she admitted to first shooting him, but why not? If the defense can say she shot him b/c she was afraid (or not) but that it was NOT A FATAL WOUND, (which is what Flores said in his investigative report!), then why couldn't the subsequent fatal stabs/slashes be claimed to be in self-defense.

What else could she possibly say to claim self-defense?

 

[Martin L]

5.24.48 photo looks like you can see the reflection of person taking photo superimposed right where the time stamp is?

I can see it also

 

[nursebeeme]

Braids. I think she braided her hair to lessen the chance of leaving any behind.

They only found one , right?


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I think he ripped it out in the struggle for his life (it had a root ball and had his blood on it)

 

[lonetraveler]

But she thought it was dog poop.

IMO it very well could have been a combo. Napoleon wasn't housebroken very well.



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There was a dog door though, maybe it was left open for him to use. Are there any photos of the dog door anywhere. I've often wondered about the size. Jodi had reportedly entered the house via dog door. It had to be a dog door way too large for that little dog for that to happen. Maybe it was already there when he moved in but a little dog like that would have a very hard time getting out of a large dog door ie., too high off the floor.

 

[FrayedKnot]

Anyone notice how JA drops her Jackie Kennedy voice when she is being interrogated and asked about the crime scene pics?

It sounds like she has a 'normal' voice there.

 

[lil_buddy]

Reading the police report really makes me see how well she planned this. I think her plans fell apart when she got to TA's house, though. I don't think she intended to have sex with him or take those pics.

She was really dumb for talking to LE so much. She really has a lot of over-confidence in her ability to charm the pants off men - hubris!

 

[popsicle]

That'd be great. I just see the wall, baseboard, and a raised blob.

That's okay, in the police report Flores says they can't figure out what it is either even after enhancing it, only that it matches the bloody picture of Travis bleeding on the floor.

 

[katiecoolady]

I just want to say that if some "expert" who has never met Travis is going to come in and te$tify about Travis , his behavior, his character traits on Jodi's behalf, then the State should be able to invite an expert to explain to the jury how the crime and her pre/post behaviors line up in terms of her personality traits and character.

In other words, let's bring a forensic Psychologist to outline for the jury the characteristics of sociopathy and how they line up to this defendant and this crime.

It just burns me just how much the system is slanted toward the defendant and how much true victims can be further victimized. :furious:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Still watching the trial re-cap, and am thinking Juan could possibly be more transparent as to what he's trying to get at. He knows the whole story, knows what he's trying to get at, but IMO, he may being leaving to much for the jury to speculate about.
He may need to "dumb it down" some???

I, for one thinks he is awesome.

He makes it very clear where everyone can understand.

I love when he is on re-direct the most. He comes out and in two seconds totally dispells everything it took the defense attorney time to put out.

I cant wait to see him on cross-examination with the defense witnesses. I have read that that is where he shines. So I think we should get ready to listen to a whole lot of evidence he wants the jury to know by asking leading questions. He couldnt do that in his case but he sure can in the defense CIC.

IMO

 

[minor4th]

Does anyone else think Melendez is kinda cute? :blushing:

Kinda .... :cool2:

 

[Boodles]

I also think it's really strange that the prosecution didn't show that Jodi never actually visited with a "friend in LA". Her story of being in the LA area was based upon her visiting a friend. Then, she said, she spoke to TA and decided, "hey it's only 5 hours, what the heck."

BUT the investigative report shows she told Flores she NEVER MET WITH A FRIEND IN LA. Who drives the length of the state of California to visit with a friend with whom you never even see? That's like a 10 hour drive!

I don't understand why the prosecution didn't point this out. Since she didn't see a friend, she had no other reason to be that far south unless she was on her way to AZ.

 

[katiecoolady]

Braids. I think she braided her hair to lessen the chance of leaving any behind.

They only found one , right?


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Hi Linda,

In one of the crime scene photos I've seen float through the screen during the trial, it looks like a huge clump of hair covered in blood up by the baseboard on the tiled floor. Anyone else see this?

 

[Chanler]

Remember, his bedroom doors had been shut and locked up until the roommate and friends gained entrance with the key. The door at this point was left open for the smell to now waft through the house until LE officers were to arrive. The smell was now evident when LE does, in fact, arrive because the door has now been open for awhile. Hope that makes sense!

Hi, Frigga, and thanks. I think that you are absolutely well. With human composition, it's all a matter of air circulation and remember that Travis was behind two closed doors. After a very solitary woman died upstairs, her death went apparently unnoticed for quite some time, but when the door (which everyone walking into the building had to pass) was finally opened, the smell permeated the entire floor and lingered. One neighbor told me that she actually gagged from the smell.

 

[katiecoolady]

I, for one thinks he is awesome.

He makes it very clear where everyone can understand.

I love when he is on re-directs the most. He comes out and in two seconds totally dispells everything it took the defense attorney time to put out.

I cant wait to see him on cross-examination with the defense witnesses. I have read that that is where he shines. So I think we should get ready to listen to a whole lot of evidence he wants the jury to know by asking leading questions. He couldnt do that in his case but he sure can in the defense CIC.

IMO

hear hear! Said it before and I'll say it again..this trial really begins with the defense case and rebuttal.

 

[popsicle]

Braids. I think she braided her hair to lessen the chance of leaving any behind.

They only found one , right?


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In Flores' report it says they found several hairs in and around the bathroom. It doesn't say what the tests on them showed tho. Also, some were obviously Travis'.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Hi Linda,

In one of the crime scene photos I've seen float through the screen during the trial, it looks like a huge clump of hair covered in blood up by the baseboard on the tiled floor. Anyone else see this?

I've seen a photo of strands of alleged pillow fringe in what looks to me like the bathroom floor. Is that the one?

 

[popsicle]

Hi Linda,

In one of the crime scene photos I've seen float through the screen during the trial, it looks like a huge clump of hair covered in blood up by the baseboard on the tiled floor. Anyone else see this?

I didn't do you know which one or have a link? thanks

 

[Boodles]

I am watching IS and it seems she focused pictures on the parts of the body she later slashed!

Definitely. I mentioned this previously but didn't get any agreement. It creeps me out and seems obvious to me, especially focusing on his neck. Ewwww.

 

[katiecoolady]

I agree, and if JA said anything that afternoon to Travis along the lines of the "whoredome" email she sent to Lisa (Andrews?) then I can only imagine what he must have been going through in his head and heart at that moment in the shower.

That email she sent to poor Lisa gives a great deal of insight into how JA plays on peoples weak points or beliefs/dogma/guilt etc. She is a trickster and I don't trust a word that comes out of her mouth.

JA is no gentle, lost, fragile, airhead; I can tell you that much. That is her MO ...what she would like for people to believe about her because then she appears harmless.

She is a ruthless predator but she hides it very well, until she can't control herself, and her true self leaks out.

She is DANGEROUS. According to the IR she made plans to take the trip to see Ryan Burns a full 2 weeks prior, a week before she stole the gun. Travis was never going to live past her visit. She wasn't going there to try and change his mind. She HATED Travis. Mimi was next or simultaneous but it didn't turn out that way.

She did what she did, and how long it took her to do it was because of circumstances and her ability to play tricks, manipulate, and pretend. He had only 45 minutes of sleep the night before, I believe that. I also don't believe they slept until 1-1:30. I think she came at Travis in a way that would make him feel sorry for her over, and over again- all morning. I think she played every trick she could emotionally, verbally, and mentally with him. I do not believe a word she says about how their day unfolded.

She is an actress starring in her own movie- everyone else is an extra in the film. He didn't fall for her like all the other men that did that came before him. He did at first, but it didn't last long.

After that she employed every skill she had- none of it worked and TA was done. Imagine that- he was done with her. Oh no, no one is going to get one over on JA.

She accomplished what she had set out weeks before to do, she made Travis pay. Then she shook off the hassle, messy blood, and fatigue and showed up at Ryan's for some food, fun with friends, PPL networking and possibly some good ol' sex. Jodi LOVES sex.

She almost got away with it. Poetic justice if you ask me, that the one thing she loved as much as herself- the inanimate camera, that allowed her to study peoples real emotions, and wallow in self adoration by viewing the many pictures she took of HERSELF- got the last laugh on her... the thing she loved most next to herself will now be her biggest downfall.

Tricks on you Jodi! RIP Travis.

Wow, what a great post. Can you please send this to Juan Martinez to use in his closing statement? Great writing...:gthanks:

 

[popsicle]

I also think it's really strange that the prosecution didn't show that Jodi never actually visited with a "friend in LA". Her story of being in the LA area was based upon her visiting a friend. Then, she said, she spoke to TA and decided, "hey it's only 5 hours, what the heck."

BUT the investigative report shows she told Flores she NEVER MET WITH A FRIEND IN LA. Who drives the length of the state of California to visit with a friend with whom you never even see? That's like a 10 hour drive!

I don't understand why the prosecution didn't point this out. Since she didn't see a friend, she had no other reason to be that far south unless she was on her way to AZ.

IMO, they didn't have to. They showed the evidence, after the defense puts on it's case if they need to bring it in to prove they are lying then they will. jmo