The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #13 *ADULT CONTENT*

[manzana]

We do know she threatened to kill herself over TA.

Link please

 

[Chester_from_THM]

Interesting that the day Lisa phoned Travis after a couple months of ignoring his calls ..just so happens to be the same day a .25 pistol was reported missing from Jodi's house. Probably coincidence since she had already started constructing her alibi with Ryan a week or so before.

That is an interesting coincidence, minor4th! Or maybe not a coincidence at all. Maybe Jodi listened to a message from Lisa on TA's voicemail that made her think TA was finally going to be finished with JA and that set Jodi's plan into action?

Just speculating. IMO, Jodi was prepared to kill TA that day, but was was going to first try to talk (sex) him out of going to Cancun. I think something TA said or did convinced her their relationship was over and he was really moving on without her this time.

I can't find it now, but thank you to whomever posted that link to the forensic astrology site. Fascinating!

 

[LambChop]

If I was young and single TA would not have been appealing to me for many reasons. heh-heh there was something of a jerk factor about him for sure from my perspective too. Yes they both used each other and manipulated but JA did it to the EXTREME and kept at it after he was done.

It's easy to judge someone when they are dead. Meeting someone in person you get a totally different perspective of who they are. Sometimes opinions we form about people we don't know and they often color our perspective on how we consider evidence in a case. It's human nature. We form opinions long before we know what the truth is and it's hard to be objective, but that is our goal here. Another goal as a victim friendly forum, I believe, is to give the victim the benefit of doubt. jmo

 

[Chanler]

If I was young and single TA would not have been appealing to me for many reasons. heh-heh there was something of a jerk factor about him for sure from my perspective too. Yes they both used each other and manipulated but JA did it to the EXTREME and kept at it after he was done.

Hi, Shelley921. Travis had been unlucky in life, but he had been lucky too. He was fortunate to get involved at the ground-level with Pre-Paid Legal, an organization that flourished on salesman's dreams. His speeches inspired men and women (probably including Jodi) to believe that they too could become affluent selling rudimentary legal help to mostly lower income people:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/13/business/13short.html?_r=0

To understand short sellers’ enthusiasm, consider Pre-Paid Legal, a public company that sells legal insurance through multilevel partnerships.

For about $26 a month, Pre-Paid Legal lets customers consult an affiliate lawyer on legal matters like speeding tickets or writing a will. In 2005, the company’s nearly 500,000 sales representatives brought in revenue exceeding $423 million.

But like many multilevel marketing companies, Pre-Paid Legal suffers from high turnover. In 2005, the company replaced at least 50 percent of its active sales force, according to filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Industrywide, multilevel marketing companies typically replace almost all of their sales representatives every year.

Short sellers are betting that the F.T.C.’s proposed rules will make it harder for Pre-Paid Legal to replenish its ranks.

Under the rules, Pre-Paid Legal would have to tell prospects that fewer than a quarter of its sales representatives sold more than one insurance plan in 2005, something it disclosed to investors in a filing with the S.E.C. While Pre-Paid’s Web site tells prospects that if they “market just five memberships per week, you’ll receive $500 per week!” very few representatives have consistently sold five memberships a week.

Pre-Paid Legal’s promotional materials also make little mention of current litigation. But the proposed rules would probably force the company to disclose that in 1997, Pre-Paid Legal acknowledged misleading customers and consented to suspend sales of living trusts after an F.T.C. investigation.

The regulations would also require the company to tell potential sales representatives that last year a Mississippi jury awarded a Pre-Paid customer $9.9 million over claims of deceptive marketing. More than 400 other Mississippi plaintiffs filed suit against Pre-Paid Legal before it reached a settlement this year.

In 2004, over 29 separate lawsuits involving more than 250 plaintiffs were filed against the company in Alabama; all of them were settled or dismissed this year.

 

[2door73chevy]

Does anyone know the date when Travis sold JA the BMW? Was it after they broke up? TIA

 

[KMouse]

My friend has a gas station and he has disks for his security tapes. But he is a top notch businessman as well. He told me he has stacks of disks

Most places have machines that re-write footage over top.

 

[LambChop]

That is an interesting coincidence, minor4th! Or maybe not a coincidence at all. Maybe Jodi listened to a message from Lisa on TA's voicemail that made her think TA was finally going to be finished with JA and that set Jodi's plan into action?

Just speculating. IMO, Jodi was prepared to kill TA that day, but was was going to first try to talk (sex) him out of going to Cancun. I think something TA said or did convinced her their relationship was over and he was really moving on without her this time.

I can't find it now, but thank you to whomever posted that link to the forensic astrology site. Fascinating!

We had a forensic astrology site here on WS's but I think it became too much for the astrologers to keep up and they closed it down. I wish they would open it again even if they had to place restrictions on it regarding posting. No comments just information. jmo

 

[nightwatch]

NG had an old babysitter of jodi on her show - IIRC jodi was around 7 babysitter was around 14, she said once jodi hit her brother w/ a bat (didn't even specify if it was wood or plastic) now NG has improved on the story that she beat her brother almost to death ....... NG! :banghead:

oh no!!! can't belive the ng hype. :what:

 

[Hopeful One]

Regarding the documentary Letter to Zachary, the only thing I can find on Netflix is Dear Zachary. Is it the same thing?

 

[human]

If Jodi had Travis' passwords, she could have logged into any computer and sent herself Text msgs, emails and Im's that would appear to be from Travis. That is, until the IP address could be traced (I think, not a computer person).

Jodi controlled Travis, that's my belief and I think she threatened to blackmail him if he didn't play her game the way she wanted him to. I would like one good reason as to why Jodi would move to Mesa, after she and Travis broke up. Jodi needed to be closer to her prey!

I think she could, but wouldn't he notice and delete the pics, etc?

 

[polleypockets]

ppl keep mentioning that the prosecution is making a mistake by making TA to wonderful a person and it will backfire - but - IIRC the only person they had on the stand that talked about TA was mimi, and she didn't extoll his virtues to much - all of the statements about TA are being made by his friends and family outside of court to the media so the jury isn't privy to all that (hoping they are following the rules) so imo that won't be a problem for the jury

 

[shelley921]

Regarding the documentary Letter to Zachary, the only thing I can find on Netflix is Dear Zachary. Is it the same thing?

no - here is the link to see it on youtube:
[video=youtube;bHaIYcWbnFM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHaIYcWbnFM[/video]

 

[Hopeful One]

no - here is the link to see it on youtube:
Your Father's Murderer : a letter to zachary. - YouTube

Thank you so much!

 

[human]

Most places have machines that re-write footage over top.

They do, I imagine.

I asked my friend about it a couple of years ago when I was following another case. I was impressed with my friend's professionalism. His station is spotless

 

[LambChop]

are you saying i am out of line? i am not blaming the victim at all. why do you say this to me? everyone else posts their opinion and i can't post mine?

No, I'm not saying anything of the sort. I was responding to the part of your post that indicated an opinion was formed. Others have the same opinion. People do form opinions and I posted mine. You are free to post whatever you wish and free to feel how you feel, I was just expressing my own opinion regarding your post. jmo

 

[FrayedKnot]

I want to thump you guys in the forehead right now.

I'm watching Dear Zachary and crying like a baby.

 

[Hopeful One]

This is a victim friendly forum, calling the victim a jerk is not victim friendly. Several posters have done that recently and I find it repulsive.

And he wasn't a jerk. No one but Jodi had anything bad to say about the guy. He was a red-blooded, normal man. By 99% of the accounts, a good guy.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

These debates are very likely some of the same ones the jurors will go through,
It's a complicated case with much to consider, and I enjoy hearing both sides of the arguments to imagine what the jurors will be talking about.
Being human beings, they will likely consider some of the same things we are discussing here - weather relative to their conviction of G/NG.
It's an uphill battle to not allow your personal feelings to flavor your discussions, and I believe that will be true in deliberations as well.
I pray they are using their minds, hearts, and common sense.

 

[Sulamith]

Didnt he mention something about finding the right wife and her not being a possible ax-muderer. Do you think he could have been thinking about JA at the time?

imo

Yes, he did. For a little more context, from his blog:

"Around then I realized it was time to adjust my priorities and date with marriage in mind. Not to ask some one on a date because I planned on marrying them, but to date someone to look for the possibility of marriage with them. This type of dating to me is like a very long job interview and can be exponentially more mentally taxing. Desperately trying to find out if my date has an axe murderer penned up inside of her and knowing she is wondering the same thing about me. That’s usually when I think myself into a panic and start acting weird in consequence to trying so hard to act normal."


http://travisalexander.blogspot.com/2008/05/why-i-want-to-marry-gold-digger.html

 

[lil_buddy]

These debates are very likely some of the same ones the jurors will go through,
It's a complicated case with much to consider, and I enjoy hearing both sides of the arguments to imagine what the jurors will be talking about.
Being human beings, they will likely consider some of the same things we are discussing here - weather relative to their conviction of G/NG.
It's an uphill battle to not allow your personal feelings to flavor your discussions, and I believe that will be true in deliberations as well.
I pray they are using their minds, hearts, and common sense.

I think we can all agree that the jury better come to the conclusion that this premeditated murder and the public would not be safe with someone like JA running around.