The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #13 *ADULT CONTENT*

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Someone upthread said that the PA knows what is under seal, just noone out side of the PA, DA and judge. Was Nurmi under the impression that Juan would just sit there and take these accusations and not defend against them? I think it's all a part to delay, delay, delay because he knows this is a BS attempt for a mistrial. jmo

It was me (post 2191) and here's what i said:
Why are all of you under the impression that PT is unable to see what motions DT is filing?? Unless it's some weird Arizona law, in my trial experiences, "Under Seal" means only the Judge, counsel and parties to the suit can see it. I know an affidavit can be filed under seal if the subject matter is subject to atty-client privilege, but even then you submit a redacted copy to opposing counsel!
It just doesn't make sense to me that one side can file an entire motion secretly without giving opposing counsel a chance to prepare/respond - seems extremely unproductive!!
 
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What information does Gus Searcy have? I know he has a reputation of being a "sensationist" and is a unreliable source, but . . . I do wonder if Jodi visited him while on her trip.

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Anybody know what he might know?

I want the list showing the names 996 ladies this Don Juan reported dated with some dates he had no intention of pursuing. I don't think there are 900 + women on this planet who would go out on a date with this guy. He reminds me of the dirty old uncle in the movie 'Tommy'.
 
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Female witness in witness room? Who would that be? Possibly smarmy GS's fiance, or CH's wife?

Yeah, I thought of Sky Hughes (Chris' wife). Now she would be a hostile witness (for the Defense).
 
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CH stated the Defense told his wife with a telephone call followed by an email . . .

Judge wants this witness CH to return tomorrow afternoon . . . .

Defense asks that he have no contact with the media or anyone
He is further not to watch any media on this trial and the Defense will be giving CH a subpoena.

Mr. Alfohade (sic?) will be testifying on the phone . . ..
Defense asks time to prepare for cross

Judge will be allowing the call for testimony today . . .

Verizon wireless will not accept a blocked number . . .
They will call him and ask he return the call.

wenwe4,
I want to thank you for all the work you do in keeping us up to date with the text version of the testimony. I watched it, but I like to see the written word, and go over it again.
Also wanted to tell you how much I appreciated your LDS information early on in the case. Thanks again
 
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LMAO, a "sex pad."

Chris Hughes said it was okay to have anal sex ?

Chris and Sky would no longer let her in their home once they figured her out. So that would be a no. jmo
 
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Yeah, I wonder how they felt seeing it for the first time on LIVE STREAM today? (You know some of them were watching!)

I hope not, as that would most likely be against their admonishment. If the judge wanted them to see what went on in the hearing, they'd be there.

Edit: They just showed the judge pretty much restating to not watch anything relating to the case on HLN.
 
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So you think Travis was a bad person and a creepy hypocrit? Character assassination just on its own as a commentary on him as a person or part of a defense of her murdering him?

While I am not one to try a case by media, Isn't all the bashing of Jodi without knowing the defense evidence character assasination? (your words not mine)

I am just not going to ride the Travis train until all the evidence is heard.
I am entitled to my own opinion even if it differs from your opinion. ]
I am simply saying that all the media hype about his character is contradicted by his anal sex theory. ESPECALLY, when he is being characterized as a great Morman. ESPECALLY, when he helped convert her to Mormonism and baptized her. In my church, their is responsibility with those whom you "bring in." To me, that is a big red flag.
 
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I think after hearing Beth and Jean, that it probably has to do with intimidating or influencing (attempting) a witness. A reason the defense may not have disclosed the issue might be that exactly for this reason (misconduct), that they don't trust the prosecution not to do more of the same, thus keeping things secret until they get into court.

But I find it interesting that, while not knowing the misconduct allegation, Juan was READY WITH HIS OWN WITNESSES. That makes me think Juan knew perfectly well what the issue was (and obviously he did). How could he know that unless the issue was valid? Hmmmm.

I also wonder if Gus Searcy is Mormon or an "outsider."

This case is stinky to me. The judge doesn't seem to be very engaged. It feels like she's going through the motions and wishes they would be done because she's already at the outcome and these details are inconvenient. I know I'm reading a lot into her demeanor, but I have not seen a judge be so detached from the proceedings.

I'm going with this as to how the PA knew what was coming today, until someone can find a believable link that they didn't have a clue what the DT had on the table today.

"Why are all of you under the impression that PT is unable to see what motions DT is filing?? Unless it's some weird Arizona law, in my trial experiences, "Under Seal" means only the Judge, counsel and parties to the suit can see it. I know an affidavit can be filed under seal if the subject matter is subject to atty-client privilege, but even then you submit a redacted copy to opposing counsel!
It just doesn't make sense to me that one side can file an entire motion secretly without giving opposing counsel a chance to prepare/respond - seems extremely unproductive!!

Sorry, credit to post #2191, Sleuth 13
 
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I have a problem with any church leader who leads someone to The Lord or religion, , baptizes them and then tells them it is okay to have anal sex. Not such a good person in my book. Really creepy.
Every word that his friend, Chris Hughes ,I take with a grain of salt. Isn't he the Mormon who allowed Travis and Jodi to use his house as a sex pad?

1) Travis was not a church leader.

2) Millions of people have anal sex every hour. Not to mention there is no proof other than the murderers own lying words that they actually had anal sex or any sex for that matter.

3) Not fair to broadbrush Mormons, should we bring up Catholics and their problems with young boys, or any other religion?

4) Travis is not on trial, he was brutally and savagely muredered by a psychopathic $lut and a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. She should be the one under the microscope, not the victim.
 
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Ok, so I remembered when we heard 'gus searcy' at the end of the day, but couldn't remember the day, I found it in the minutes, it was on the 16th: http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/012013/m5592127.pdf

I went looking wondering if it was in the 14th and that was possibly how CH's wife knew... but nope. It does seem that the prosecution knew what it was about and was prepared.
 
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It was me (post 2191) and here's what i said:
Why are all of you under the impression that PT is unable to see what motions DT is filing?? Unless it's some weird Arizona law, in my trial experiences, "Under Seal" means only the Judge, counsel and parties to the suit can see it. I know an affidavit can be filed under seal if the subject matter is subject to atty-client privilege, but even then you submit a redacted copy to opposing counsel!
It just doesn't make sense to me that one side can file an entire motion secretly without giving opposing counsel a chance to prepare/respond - seems extremely unproductive!!

That is exactly what happened. I guess it's okay for defense but not for the prosecution. It may have had to do with the misconduct charge. jmo
 
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While I am not one to try a case by media, Isn't all the bashing of Jodi without knowing the defense evidence character assasination? (your words not mine)

I am just not going to ride the Travis train until all the evidence is heard.
I am entitled to my own opinion even if it differs from your opinion. ]
I am simply saying that all the media hype about his character is contradicted by his anal sex theory. ESPECALLY, when he is being characterized as a great Morman. ESPECALLY, when he helped convert her to Mormonism and baptized her. In my church, their is responsibility with those whom you "bring in." To me, that is a big red flag.

Defendant is a known liar, and an admitted slasher, for starters. Just saying~
 
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Gus Searcy owned his own 7-11 by the age of 21. Not a dumb dude. Maybe a bit of narcissim. But an impressive accomplishment'
 
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Does anyone know if acandyrose has a section on Travis and Jodi? TIA
 
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While I am not one to try a case by media, Isn't all the bashing of Jodi without knowing the defense evidence character assasination? (your words not mine)

I am just not going to ride the Travis train until all the evidence is heard.
I am entitled to my own opinion even if it differs from your opinion. ]
I am simply saying that all the media hype about his character is contradicted by his anal sex theory. ESPECALLY, when he is being characterized as a great Morman. ESPECALLY, when he helped convert her to Mormonism and baptized her. In my church, their is responsibility with those whom you "bring in." To me, that is a big red flag.


A "big red flag" that he abused her?
I haven't seen anything relating to abuse yet. I will watch and listen to the defense side. jmo:seeya:
 
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