The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #14 *ADULT CONTENT*

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Well I know about Cindy and Rosemary but not the other one! Beavers and Zednick were both "butinsky's" in the Jason Young and Bradley Cooper trials, respectively. They claimed to witness things and contacted LE to report them. LE didn't call them back. :(

I get it too, Boods!! I was there with ya!
 
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Possible Gus story:

Fact: JA talked to TA for around an hour between 3 and 4AM June 2. She then left at 530am-ish for her road trip.

Possible scenario:
She goes to Santa Cruz. According to a poster here who said she saw Gus' calendar, Gus was in Santa Cruz that evening, June 2. That would place both JA and GS at the same place where they may have talked.

What if JA confided to GS that she had spoken with TA earlier that morning, and that he wanted her to come to AZ (had suspicions she was going to UT to see 'another guy' and he had a pang of possessiveness). Jodi was struggling with this decision b/c although she was trying to "move on" and establish a relationship with Ryan B, she still loved TA. What if she confided that she was going to go to Mesa and try to sort things out with TA for either: 1) a permanent final stop to all contact; or, 2) a reconciliation to get back together.

Maybe that's what Gus is going to say. That could work FOR JA in that it shows more of a spontaneous trip, that TA had invited her and that they were still wrapped up in a mutual, albeit dysfunctional, relationship.

It could work AGAINST JA in that it definitely puts her as planning to go to TAs house that night. And maybe she told Gus she was going to stop by unexpectedly and surprise him. this would strengthen the premeditation part of the pros's case. (But then why would she even tell Gus this if she was planning to kill TA?)

Anyway, just thinking out loud here about Gus' information and what he might have to say.
Maybe JA attempted, in some unknown way, to implicate Gus in Travis' murder?
 
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Thanks for the link! I think this is the person to which I was referring. Super interesting posts, especially down the thread. Be sure to read the whole thread, FYI.

Sooo interesting! I read up a bit on the rumored associate of JA's in jail. I think that's where she got the "battered woman" defense. *if she testifies, I'll be interested to hear if her words are similar to what her bosom buddy's were in HER trial.
 
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I would be more likely to believe he drowned in the pool, then this self defense nonsense.
No, no, silly- he drowned in the shower!
 
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This has me rolling! If she left and came back after that photo....oh Lordy let me drive that Mac truCk through the self defense theory.

And if the duhfense is going to state she came back because she had been abused :thud: gosh I wish I could be ther with Katie!
Overkill is often present in battered person/domestic abuse cases because the abused want to make sure that the assaulter will never hurt them or anyone else again.

It's definitely a strategy the defense can use.
 
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Their "insertions" have been ridiculously specific in an ongoing murder trial and his brother appearing on national tv this a.m. when he knew his brother was going to testify in a couple of hours calling the credibility of the witness he would be rebutting into question? Yeah, no.

Every single thing I've seen about them, from their involvement in PPL and their personal history, CH's evolving motivational speaker bullchit, their calling Travis privately aside for an hour and a half to dis Jodi while she was a guest in their home WITH Travis and had been a welcome guest in the past...just totally inappropriate and weird. You don't like her, don't invite her to your house. She does something while she's there that you don't like...if it's serious, out the door with both of them pronto....if it's not so serious have the freaking conversation on the phone after they leave. Imo, they are ALL a bunch of freaks.

I agree with you. No wonder JA gave them a dirty look when she found out she was being talked about, with her in the house! I think Chris and Sky were trying to "guard" TA's chastity, or something. I wonder if TA stood up and defended JA's honor and left their home. TA was 30 yrs old not an underage boy. Bad form for CH and his wife to talk trash about JA while she was in their home.
 
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Real abused woman caller on Dr.D seems to see her abusive husband in Jodi. Her ex came back after they'd been separated three yrs. and hit her with his truck disabling her for life.

Jose Baez, the fluke expert, mumbled something about we'll have to see what defense presents. He didn't say anything brilliant, that's for sure.

bbm

He never has; he never will.

In other words, Right On, Curious!! And I especially like the "fluke expert" part!
 
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Too bad the rest of you don't know what I know. But I will share now. Jodi was testing this device.

It really would be great for the situation of rape in Africa, so I don't mean this to be totally glib.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/crime/rapex.asp
 
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I wish Dr Drew would have not interrupted her. I didnt quite understand who she was siding with. I think she was trying to say that she sees that same lack of empathy in Jodis eyes as she did her ex.

I agree, DrD interrupted when it was getting good. Abused caller definitely felt Jodi had no empathy just like her abusive ex.

I've heard a lot of fake calls, but she sounded like a geniune abused woman, IMO. Her ex didn't seem to recognize three years had gone by, in the same way that Jodi admits she couldn't move on. It really irked her that Travis could move on.

It's like men you hear were in jail for ten yrs, get out and go finish killing their ex.
 
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Overkill is often present in battered person/domestic abuse cases because the abused want to make sure that the assaulter will never hurt them or anyone else again.

It's definitely a strategy the defense can use.

....eye roll...

They can use "he cut himself while shaving" defense too.
 
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I agree with you. No wonder JA gave them a dirty look when she found out she was being talked about, with her in the house! I think Chris and Sky were trying to "guard" TA's chastity, or something. I wonder if TA stood up and defended JA's honor and left their home. TA was 30 yrs old not an underage boy. Bad form for CH and his wife to talk trash about JA while she was in their home.

I just get the feeling that the whole "company" is a sham of sorts. Some sort of pyramid scheme. I may be wrong, but that is just the way it comes across to me. All of them seem a little shady to me in a money making sort of way. We have trips, cruises, etc to great places. It all seems so shady. Reminds me of time-share condominium sales pitches or something.

But in no way should TA have been murdered no matter what company he worked for.
 
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bbm

He never has; he never will.

In other words, Right On, Curious!! And I especially like the "fluke expert" part!

IMO Casey was the brains behind Jose.
 
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Have we heard anything about what Jodi did to occupy herself from the time she left Utah and her arrest???

She bought a 9 mm handgun, rented a car and packed her belongings ...
 
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I agree with you. No wonder JA gave them a dirty look when she found out she was being talked about, with her in the house! I think Chris and Sky were trying to "guard" TA's chastity, or something. I wonder if TA stood up and defended JA's honor and left their home. TA was 30 yrs old not an underage boy. Bad form for CH and his wife to talk trash about JA while she was in their home.

According to a post upthread (boodles, maybe?) they didn't like the way she was interfering with the financial aspect of the relationship. I haven't listened to that link, but it makes sense. But regardless, Chris Hughes is a drop out (if you believe him) who has scammed his way to the top of PPL and into his own motivational speaking boondoggle. The vid of the coveted bmw and pic of the spray tanned wifey on the ski vacay with the "perfect" family, coupled with the promo videos of his "million dollar" socal home...blech. He's as slimy as the day is long. Also, considering they were on his wife's family's "property" when the bmw scene took place, you have to wonder how the two of them hooked up. And speaking of bmw's, if the ppl exec's get one for free, why was Travis charging Jodi for trashing his free car?
 
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....eye roll...

They can use "he cut himself while shaving" defense too.
But which aligns with what the defense is trying to paint as an abusive relationship, coupled with clear overkill?

You can ridicule all you want. That doesn't make it untrue.
 
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