The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #16 *ADULT CONTENT*

[m00c0w]

Then it should state IMO/JMO etc...

Speculation on an email and what it may/may not say? On a hacked account from a murderer? Ok then..

:floorlaugh:

The question was "How does any e-mail..." It was a hypothetical question; I did not realize I needed to qualify such a response as an opinion when the question was phrased as it was to begin with.

And I don't believe the validity of the e-mail is in question. This is an e-mail CH sent to TA (and apparently acknowledges sending), not something TA sent anywhere else.

 

[BritsKate]

Admit the emails. Then on rebuttal the prosecution can call one of many of Travis' friends to testify that Jodi was often using his laptop. For bonus points they can even include the message Travis sent to her a week before he was murdered accusing her of accessing his online accounts too.

 

[princesspjs]

I think you may be getting the forged letters - that Jodi said Travis wrote - and the emails - that actually were emails between Chris and Travis - mixed up. Chris never said he didn't write the email or didn't receive the emails from Travis. I don't recall hearing that the emails were fake or forged at all, and I would imagine the Prosecution would have argued more than they did if they did indeed believed they were not sent.

Ohhh I thought they were all the same. I thought that was what they were talking about the whole time today was the forged letters because Chris brought them up the other day. Hmmmm....were they talking about different letters?

 

[magpie]

It's interesting isn't it? The subculture of people who defend murderers...going from one to the next. It's akin to the subculture of women who jump from imprisoned murderer to the next. Curious.

I bet there are some "Scott (Peterson) is Innocent" posters over there also. I'm sure you remember that site, don't you katiecoolady? They were all the time coming over here to WS just to stir up trouble. Ah, memories. :what: I still have flashbacks from those so called forum wars.

 

[m00c0w]

Unhealthy relationship is not a history of "domestic violence," which is what is required in Arizona to invoke the domestic violence self defense. A history of domestic violence is physical or sexual assault -- not being unkind or name calling or leading someone on, etc.

However, whether it constitutes abuse to any great extent... Probably not.​

 

[LambChop]

From what I could understand Jodi stopped in Las Vegas to see GS when she was moving back home to California. Isn't that when she blew the engine on his BMW? Could that have been the reason TA was angry with her?????

 

[Hatfield]

Juan had a good day with Jodi's ex....scored major points but Nurmi also did well, he is kinda a Columbo style da Slow and methodical.

He did get out in court that Chris Hughes in his talks with Detective Flores alluded to him being able to see Travis throwing Jodi against a wall Juan quickly objected to relevance.
However the bell was rung but the jury was not present. I am wondering am I the only one who saw this? Maybe everyone else s feed was down. Now it leaves me wondering if anything like this possibly happened at the Hughes home on one of their numerous visits.

For the record, I do not think Travis abused Jodi, nor do I think he had any fear of her but how many couples do not argue fuss and fight.

Re BBM
I heard it too and you are correct that it was without the jury. It was just for the misconduct hearing part, so jury didnt hear it. I am betting the context was in discussions between the 2 of them about whether it was even possible for Travis to get that upset with her. I think the context was not as dire as it seems.

 

[m00c0w]

Ohhh I thought they were all the same. I thought that was what they were talking about the whole time today was the forged letters because Chris brought them up the other day. Hmmmm....were they talking about different letters?

They were talking about an e-mail CH sent to TA, allegedly saying that he was treating Arias poorly and that he needed to stop and just let her go or something to that extent.

 

[Isabelle]

If we know nothing else for sure, we know Jodi is quite a liar. That says a lot!

 

[katiecoolady]

Admit the emails. Then on rebuttal the prosecution can call one of many of Travis' friends to testify that Jodi was often using his laptop. For bonus points they can even include the message Travis sent to her a week before he was murdered accusing her of accessing his online accounts too.

Good point.

Good way to look at the defense case. Each and every witness/testimony opens the door for how the State can craft the Rebuttal case. Which is where, imo, this case will be ultimately won (for the State).

 

[Karmady]

Juan had a good day with Jodi's ex....scored major points but Nurmi also did well, he is kinda a Columbo style da Slow and methodical.

He did get out in court that Chris Hughes in his talks with Detective Flores alluded to him being able to see Travis throwing Jodi against a wall Juan quickly objected to relevance.


However the bell was rung but the jury was not present. I am wondering am I the only one who saw this? Maybe everyone else s feed was down. Now it leaves me wondering if anything like this possibly happened at the Hughes home on one of their numerous visits.

For the record, I do not think Travis abused Jodi, nor do I think he had any fear of her but how many couples do not argue fuss and fight.

I saw it. I'm sure Flores, if asked, will say he was just using an investigative technique. It wouldn't surprise me if Travis got physical in a relationship given his upbringing -- cycle of abuse and all, but I doubt that even if he did, the defense would be able to prove it. And especially not that he did it on enough occasions to amount to a pattern of abuse.

It was clear to me that's where the defense was going with the long sleeves and turtlenecks, etc. But even Gus said that she was dressed appropriately for the climate in LV the one time I heard that type of question asked. I don't know if there were other similar questions since I couldn't watch it straight through.

 

[LaneGirl]

Ohhh I thought they were all the same. I thought that was what they were talking about the whole time today was the forged letters because Chris brought them up the other day. Hmmmm....were they talking about different letters?

Forged letters were mentioned. There is also an email exchange between TA and CH where it appears that CH wrote that TA was treating JA badly.

 

[m00c0w]

Admit the emails. Then on rebuttal the prosecution can call one of many of Travis' friends to testify that Jodi was often using his laptop. For bonus points they can even include the message Travis sent to her a week before he was murdered accusing her of accessing his online accounts too.

How would she have faked an e-mail from CH from TA's accounts, though? That CH doesn't deny writing, and the prosecution has allowed?

 

[katiecoolady]

I bet there are some "Scott (Peterson) is Innocent" posters over there also. I'm sure you remember that site, don't you katiecoolady? They were all the time coming over here to WS just to stir up trouble. Ah, memories. :what: I still have flashbacks from those so called forum wars.

Ohyeah. Marlene Newell...I met her in person! lol I think it was that site who decided Jordy and I were in the Asian Mafia. :floorlaugh: And selling our bodies on the street corners of Redwood City to afford our trips there. What a compliment!:what:

 

[Sulamith]

How does any email from Chris prove the defendant was in imminent danger at 5:30pm June 4, 2008, with a naked, weaponless man for a self defense claim?

TA was naked and weaponless (it appears) but according to his MySpace and website, he states he is a triathlete, has 16 1/2" biceps and likes Mixed Martial Arts, and had a punching bag in his house. Somebody might say his hands were his weapons.

I have no idea what went on between them, not defending Jodi...just an observation.

 

[gitana1]

it was the OPENING of their CIC! omg can you imagine?

It seems ridiculous. I feel like they should open with a good witness.

If anyone wants to see a repeat of just the Gus Show, here is a link:
http://youtu.be/2QodsaSRoDg?t=1h10m50s

Thanks!!!

My gosh, now I;m listening to the ex boyfriend's testimony. I wish I had been here this morning to read your posts. Was anyone as icked out as I am?

"Were you still in love?" "Very much so."

He just gushes about her. How can anyone who knows their ex murdered another human being, gush and fawn over them? If he thought of her so highly, why didn't things work out? Because she wanted someone with more money, better looks? He just makes me sick.

 

[missy1974]

Ohhh I thought they were all the same. I thought that was what they were talking about the whole time today was the forged letters because Chris brought them up the other day. Hmmmm....were they talking about different letters?

Chris did bring up the letters yesterday, so the Defense was talking about them today, and did ask some questions about an email that was sent from the Defense to Skye Hughes, and a reply to that.

Then Chris was asked to read (to himself) an email that he had sent to Travis, in which apparently there was some acknowledgement by Chris that Travis was treating Jodi badly, or that that the relationship was bad. (sorry, I can't remember the exact words). I believe what he read also had an email, possibly more than one, of Travis replying to Chris.

Hope that helps!

 

[TorisMom003]

How would she have faked an e-mail from CH from TA's accounts, though? That CH doesn't deny writing, and the prosecution has allowed?

Jodi could have easily sent CH an email supposedly from Travis. CH could have questioned if the email really came from Travis. The email from Travis to CH before CH responded is what CH wanted to see and read.

MOO

 

[minor4th]

However, whether it constitutes abuse to any great extent... Probably not.​

No, it does not constitute abuse, period. Not for purposes of this defense.

 

[AngelWings444]

The question was "How does any e-mail..." It was a hypothetical question; I did not realize I needed to qualify such a response as an opinion when the question was phrased as it was to begin with.

And I don't believe the validity of the e-mail is in question. This is an e-mail CH sent to TA (and apparently acknowledges sending), not something TA sent anywhere else.

Yes, but was CH really responding to an email from Travis? Or the hacker? Maybe that is why he wanted to refresh his memory. All speculation on my part. We do not know what is in that email or in the prior email.

Furthermore, since there is NO proof so far that JA was abused, it should be stated it's our opinion and not factual. There is not a "history of violence towards JA", as you continually state. I'll take it back when I see proof she was abused in any manner.

JMO