Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh? #3

[Flossie JMO]

We went home and went back to sleep until about twelve. Got up,Ronald got up, got ready for work and got ready I don’t know what we did around the house, just laid around until Ronald had to go to work. Jr. played and then he took a nap. And it was time for Haleigh to pick up at the bus, so Ronald picked Haleigh up at the bus, I stayed at the house because Jr. was sleeping so Ronald couldn’t take him to the bus, so I stayed there.

I don't take that as Junior slept all day, JMO

 

[Pondering Mind]

Just wanted to make a comment that the only time we hear Ron say anything about Haleigh is when he has been asked a question by someone who has said the name "Haleigh". So, it's not really that strange that he refer to her as "she" or "her", IMO. If someone asks me how my hubby is, I usually say "he's fine...he's doing this or that, etc." I wouldn't say his name unless I brought him up first. JMO...

True kamky and I may very well say the same about my children or grandchildren. You know...my daughter did thus and such....my grandson won his football game. He did too! at 10 y/o I do believe 'the boy' will play pro, which terrifies me and makes me very proud at the same time! That said, they aren't missing tho which makes a huge difference imo. Other than the Anthonys, I can't think of another family of a missing child that has done that and I sure wouldn't want to be compared to them kwim?

 

[Pondering Mind]

She is defintely changing and contradicting her own story. I think that soime (including me, I admit it!) gave her the benefit of the doubt for some time because she was young, uneducated, likely confused, possibly drug-addled, etc., etc. I think that I personally am getting much more skeptical of Misty over time, based on her continuing behavior. (you may be glad to know!)

hi kamky, It really doesn't make me glad I promise you because while no matter who did this I just don't have a good feeling about the outcome. And while the outcome may be the same, I would give anything for it not to be a family member, I swear I would. That just makes it so much more heartbreaking (if that's possible) doesn't it?

 

[Pondering Mind]

I'm so sorry, Pondering. I know this is a devastating experience. It happened to my husband's first child (in his first marriage) and this child has never been forgotten. They had similar suspicions of a caregiver and it was also many years ago.

We really don't know if LE ever recovered this blanket, though, do we? They haven't said.

TY kamky, I hate to bring it up again, not because of me, but cause I feel like maybe people think I'm looking for IDK, sympathy or something, ya know? But yeah, the suspicions and what ifs can eat you alive if you let them. Give your hubby an extra (((hug))) from me, will you?

eta~ I haven't heard anything about the blanket, but I could have easily missed it.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Ron's numerous lawyers and having those lawyers speak for him says alot to me too.

 

[kamky]

hi kamky, It really doesn't make me glad I promise you because while no matter who did this I just don't have a good feeling about the outcome. And while the outcome may be the same, I would give anything for it not to be a family member, I swear I would. That just makes it so much more heartbreaking (if that's possible) doesn't it?

Yes, it does. Hard enough to believe a stranger would hurt a sweet little child and almost impossible to believe a family member would. I just cannot imagine, really! And yet, it does. And society hasn't been able to figure out how to fix this.

 

[Flossie JMO]

OT The lawyer issue has concerned me as well, starting with when Crystal got KP. Where are Crystal and Marie lately? Haven't seen any interviews lately.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I am so sorry for your loss, I can't even imagine what you and your hubby went though. So many of us here write our theories or opinions from our persona experiences and I am so glad that you shared that with us.

I think Haleigh died and she wet the blanket and that is why Misty talks about washing them so much. She doesn't go into detail about other things as she does about the blankets. Like I said before, if there were a blanket missing or sheets LE wouldn't know unless someone pointed it out to them. I will always think the MH was staged to make us believe she was taken, but I don't know who helped her or who else was involved. Many of the things Ron said or didn't say, or did or didn't do has made him a target. I would want at least my employer or an employee to come forward and say they saw him or confirm his hours or his duties that night. Even that would be a help.

I agree with your whole post Bern! Ron imo has made himself a target IF by some chance he is totally innocent. (which I don't believe) He's not a stupid man I don't believe, and Misty's stories are so ridiculous that IF he was innocent of any wrongdoing there is No Way in H E L L that he would buy into all of that and not only defend her, but MARRY her! By LE never coming out and saying that he was at work from _ to _ and we have proof that he couldn't have left or never did leave I will continue to believe that he did. That's jmo tho.

You are right, so many of us are brought here because of our own personal experiences and while everyone is different, there's just no way that you can't draw upon those when pondering these cases. If I may add~ In my case, I was only 17 and my ex was 21, so I am well aware that if it happened today, LE would prolly be ALL over it at least until an autopsy was done. In many ways I wish that had been the case, because at least I would know for sure and I KNOW that I wouldn't have anything to worry about.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

OT The lawyer issue has concerned me as well, starting with when Crystal got KP. Where are Crystal and Marie lately? Haven't seen any interviews lately.

Why did Crystal have a lawyer?

 

[Flossie JMO]

Why did Crystal have a lawyer?

Well there's been a few stories about that, first it was said to handle media, then it seemed like it was to accuse Ron of abusing the children and to get custody, that kind of fell flat due to being untrue imo. She has another lawyer now.

 

[Pondering Mind]

bbm, I had several other posts in that topic, did you read them as well? I thought I was pretty clear with my opinions. I don't know how to link to individual posts to make it easier for you and put them all in one place. Do you know how?

I don't know how to do that either Flossie. I'm quite technology challenged, shall we say? :crazy: If you knew what thread and post # it would help. Otherwise I guess I'll just have to go back and read all your posts when I get the chance. :yow:

From what I have read, let me just ask you this, if you don't want to answer I understand. (and again to be clear this wasn't what you posted, just posts that you responded to)
Is it your belief that someone in the Sheffield family abducted HaLeigh and has her in hiding for financial gain?

 

[KOOL LOOK]

TY kamky, I hate to bring it up again, not because of me, but cause I feel like maybe people think I'm looking for IDK, sympathy or something, ya know? But yeah, the suspicions and what ifs can eat you alive if you let them. Give your hubby an extra (((hug))) from me, will you?

eta~ I haven't heard anything about the blanket, but I could have easily missed it.

I'm glad you told us, I know this little fella was very special to you and his Father. I don't know how you feel about the wondering and questions surrounding the circumstances, but would support you in anyway if you felt the need to look back into it.

Our society has come a long way in learning about Sids and other conditions. Our Doctors are smarter and more aware and is why I believe the Babies lost to their families have benefited other families in saving the lives of their babies. Hugs PM.

 

[Flossie JMO]

I don't know how to do that either Flossie. I'm quite technology challenged, shall we say? :crazy: If you knew what thread and post # it would help. Otherwise I guess I'll just have to go back and read all your posts when I get the chance. :yow:

From what I have read, let me just ask you this, if you don't want to answer I understand. (and again to be clear this wasn't what you posted, just posts that you responded to)
Is it your belief that someone in the Sheffield family abducted HaLeigh and has her in hiding for financial gain?

I think page 27 to 33 and more, I recall discussing it with Den and Dots iirc. I posted my theory over several posts, not merely responding to people. And of course I have no issue answering, why would I? A long post if that's what you are looking for, as I said, is in theory #2 topic, try page 33: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83074&page=33

I believe someone in the Sheffield/Griffis family and friends abducted HaLeigh and have her in hiding, I don't think financial gain was the main motive, but a "perk" if you will, and yes I know how awful that sounds.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I think page 27 to 33 and more, I recall discussing it with Den and Dots iirc. I posted my theory over several posts, not merely responding to people. And of course I have no issue answering, why would I? A long post if that's what you are looking for, as I said, is in theory #2 topic, try page 33: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83074&page=33

I believe someone in the Sheffield/Griffis family and friends abducted HaLeigh and have her in hiding, I don't think financial gain was the main motive, but a "perk" if you will, and yes I know how awful that sounds.

Thank you Flossie, I will go read now. Everything about every scenario that we have come up with sounds awful, it is awful, so no worries there.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I think page 27 to 33 and more, I recall discussing it with Den and Dots iirc. I posted my theory over several posts, not merely responding to people. And of course I have no issue answering, why would I? A long post if that's what you are looking for, as I said, is in theory #2 topic, try page 33: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83074&page=33

I believe someone in the Sheffield/Griffis family and friends abducted HaLeigh and have her in hiding, I don't think financial gain was the main motive, but a "perk" if you will, and yes I know how awful that sounds.

So how is the person that kidnapped Haleigh getting any money?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Who in this bunch of people is smart enough or cares enough about Haleigh to kidnapp her and hide her for 8 months.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

One word "Underground".

 

[kiki the parrot]

Flossie (or anyone interested) you can link an individual post by clicking on the post # itself (which appears next to alert thingie in upper righthand co); this will open up individual post--from which point you simply copy url addy from browser then paste the link and voila! Btw I had been here a year before I figured this out lol. :crazy: HTH

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[kamky]

Ron's numerous lawyers and having those lawyers speak for him says alot to me too.

He engaged one law office previously for the custody suit.

He has currently retained counsel at one office in St Augustine for current issues, which has both lawyers Shoemaker and Beardsley, as well as another partner:

http://www.ancientcitylaw.com/Bio/BrandonBeardsely.asp

I think both Ron & Crystal have realized the importance of having legal counsel with all that's going on. Whether for media representation and advice or whatever...

 

[kiki the parrot]

See, I even find the 'lack of sleep' thing odd. Misty herself has said (if she is to be believed :banghead that after taking HaLeigh to school that she and Ron (don't know if Jr was there) went back to sleep until almost time for Ron to go to work. THEN, when Ron (as they report anyway) went to pick HaLeigh up from the bus stop, Jr was napping AGAIN, so Misty stayed at home with him. Even if she did party hardy, according to her anyway, she had slept. IDK, each story she tells contradicts the next but that still raises NO red flag with some. :waitasec:

The story you shared broke my little bird heart friend :hug: I am very sorry about the loss of your precious little one. :rose:

Back to Satsuma, sigh... had Misty in fact been partying all weekend, and if Ron and Misty were up all Sunday night arguing (or "talking" per TN), then w/e few hours Misty got earlier in the day (w Junior presumably there, perhaps trying to keep him from waking daddy, eg) might not necessarily have been enough to make her a well rested, calm and attentive caregiver.

On the contrary, we have reports from parents describing Misty that afternoon as drawn, agitated, irritable and short-tempered going as far as to smack and cuss out the children. That does not sound well rested to me but maybe this was Misty at her best. In any event, I'm by no means sold on, or selling the Misty Was There (just tryin to get some shuteye when she snaps) Story, it's but one of a number of scenarios in which Haleigh may have met w harm.
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