Theory #2: Family Abduction by George Waters with George Brody, Part 2

[GraceBlue]

I think some of you are clearly onto something. "Elizabeth" Ann "Anna" Peggy (sic Margaret) Bouslag Davis, a nurse went missing somewhere between 1939 and 1944. She apparently left Colorado with a "John Spooner" to go to San Francisco. She was a nurse in Colorado at Jewish National Hospital in the 1030's and at the Presidio Military hospital in SF in the 1940's. She was being investigated for performing illegal abortions during that time. There is the newspaper article link a few posts ago. Her children couldn't find her in the 1940's. Apparently she told them she was "going out to sea." This may be the woman GB married. Ironically no one can find actual records on her either. See the picture on Anna Waters my space for Elizabeth Davis and read the history. Something tells me there is a connection with abortions/baby rings. Remember, once abortions became legal in the US, back room ones were less lucrative. Perhaps another means was needed for financial purposes, especially for GB. Any thoughts?

Wow you are good!!! Thank you for sharing that informatin with us! Where did you find the information about Ann Peggy Bouslag Davis if you dont mind me asking?

Now...lets dig deeper to find out if that is Margaret's real identity!

 

[Shadow205]

I think some of you are clearly onto something. "Elizabeth" Ann "Anna" Peggy (sic Margaret) Bouslag Davis, a nurse went missing somewhere between 1939 and 1944. She apparently left Colorado with a "John Spooner" to go to San Francisco. She was a nurse in Colorado at Jewish National Hospital in the 1030's and at the Presidio Military hospital in SF in the 1940's. She was being investigated for performing illegal abortions during that time. There is the newspaper article link a few posts ago. Her children couldn't find her in the 1940's. Apparently she told them she was "going out to sea." This may be the woman GB married. Ironically no one can find actual records on her either. See the picture on Anna Waters my space for Elizabeth Davis and read the history. Something tells me there is a connection with abortions/baby rings. Remember, once abortions became legal in the US, back room ones were less lucrative. Perhaps another means was needed for financial purposes, especially for GB. Any thoughts?

Link please

 

[Cubby]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=144755243

I think this is the link.

 

[GraceBlue]

More info with a bigger picture:

http://bouslog.info/

She used so many names :waitasec: Anna, Peggy, Peg, Elizabeth Ann

This site even lists her social security #

 

[GraceBlue]

I think Elizabeth Bouslog Davis could be too old to be Margaret Kukoda but with GB listing a fake birth year anything is possible

 

[mysteriew]

I think Elizabeth Bouslog Davis could be too old to be Margaret Kukoda but with GB listing a fake birth year anything is possible

The myspace site has both Sharon Marshall and Anna Waters friends on it. Which means that someone from here has already looked at the info. We need to find out if a comparison has been made with MK and what the results were.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Julessleuther is the one who first made the possible connection.

Hi--I have looked and looked but cannot seem to find it. Do we have any pictures of Margaret posted here? The only reason I ask is because there is an interesting thread in cold cases, and the fact that the missing woman is a nurse AND went to San Francisco in 1939 or so rang bells for me.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1473832&posted=1#post1473832

 

[Gina_M]

Hi all,

I originally noticed the Elizabeth Ann Bouslog Davis page on MySpace and started a thread for her here on WS in Cold Cases. Not even thinking of a MK connection at the time, just wanting to help the case get more exposure. Julessleuther is really good...she noticed the possible MK connection. My sleuthing skills aren't the best, so anyone here is welcome to look into it. I've been writing with the lady running the MySpace profile, and any info she gives me I post on the thread in Cold Cases. I can ask her if she's heard of MK, maybe direct her to Anna's forum to read up on it. Good work, everyone!

 

[NJshrink]

I am new to wed sleuths, so I may often post something that was previously covered. The Anna Bouslog Davis was from a www.myspace.com/ann_bouslog . The newspaper article of Margaret Kukoda being indicted for illegal abortions was on your link but I'll try to post that link.http://im1shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6d933b3127cce8bffadf421...
I think she and George B were an item and kept changing their identities whenever things got too hot in their abortion and later baby selling ring. When I read the "Plan" it seemed to say contract money (sic) final arrangements with the L's bank been made (Jan 1973) Apply for $100,000 with (some other person) as (name hidden). This was reference, I'm hypothesizing, to an application of some sort to deposit $ and somehow launder it.
Also, has anyone actually seen the death certificate for Mary, George B or George W in person?
Also, at the risk of seeming intrusive, I do have access to Princeton and Columbia University alumni sites, so can I please have more specific information about the years Waters graduated and exactly where his internships and residencies were and what years. Was there ever a mention of exactly who his parents were and if they were involved (positively) after their grandchild went missing?

 

[Gina_M]

Also, has anyone actually seen the death certificate for Mary, George B or George W in person?
Also, at the risk of seeming intrusive, I do have access to Princeton and Columbia University alumni sites, so can I please have more specific information about the years Waters graduated and exactly where his internships and residencies were and what years. Was there ever a mention of exactly who his parents were and if they were involved (positively) after their grandchild went missing?

These questions can be answered best by Dr. Doogie or Annasmom; however I do know that Annasmom has kept in touch with George Waters' family and is certain they were not involved in Anna's disappearance. See this post from Annasmom:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1194323&postcount=58

 

[Gina_M]

Skimming through the "Searching for Anna" manuscript...

George Waters graduated from Princeton in 1961. He began an internship at San Francisco General Hospital in 1966.

 

[MagicRose99]

I think it may be a good idea to just stop... sit back... and let's regroup. I believe we should wait for our fearless leader to lay out what we already know, what we've looked into and what we need to look into next. If there are theories, put those forth to be looked into...

I really feel that things are going off every which way at this time in our rush to help and we need to just stop and find out where we should go next instead of losing our focus and objectives and wasting resources, ideas and time.

I really do not mean to offend anyone, but right now, all I'm see are jumbled efforts and thoughts...

And remember, Doogie did ask for time for them to regroup and get their thoughts back on track...

 

[NJshrink]

I keep reading the "plan. It's getting clearer. The no. 2 I think goes something like this: Apply for $100.000 with Arizona female as ???Brouslag??? No. 3 Three months later negotiate an increase to 5 ? Then someword I cannot yet make out ...with Arizona female No. 4 three months later change B (birthdate?) While I have no idea if this relates to Anna's disappearance, I think it may speak to baby/child abductions and sales. I have begun to also wonder about some of the women who might have been pregnant about that time. I wonder if they all made it back home alive. Maybe a stretch, but that's how shrinks think, sorry.

 

[mfmangel1]

I think it may be a good idea to just stop... sit back... and let's regroup. I believe we should wait for our fearless leader to lay out what we already know, what we've looked into and what we need to look into next. If there are theories, put those forth to be looked into...

I really feel that things are going off every which way at this time in our rush to help and we need to just stop and find out where we should go next instead of losing our focus and objectives and wasting resources, ideas and time.

I really do not mean to offend anyone, but right now, all I'm see are jumbled efforts and thoughts...

And remember, Doogie did ask for time for them to regroup and get their thoughts back on track...

I completely agree with you. A LOT of the ground has previously been covered. No offense to any newcomers, but you really must read the forum from the very beginning to know the total amount of work that has already been completed. Even the members that have been here for a while sometimes forget everything that has been covered previously!

And, yes, we need to take a breath, stay focused, and not jump around wasting a lot of our resources on unsubstantiated ideas.

There are already several sound theories that need more investigation and I am sure Doogie and Annasmom will want to point the investigation in those directions when they are ready.

I hope everyone has a good week-end.

Happy Mother's Day to Annasmom and to all Moms at Websleuths!

 

[GraceBlue]

I completely agree with you. A LOT of the ground has previously been covered. No offense to any newcomers, but you really must read the forum from the very beginning to know the total amount of work that has already been completed. Even the members that have been here for a while sometimes forget everything that has been covered previously!

And, yes, we need to take a breath, stay focused, and not jump around wasting a lot of our resources on unsubstantiated ideas.

There are already several sound theories that need more investigation and I am sure Doogie and Annasmom will want to point the investigation in those directions when they are ready.

I hope everyone has a good week-end.

Happy Mother's Day to Annasmom and to all Moms at Websleuths!

I know, I know! Heehee. Sometimes when I go back I find more things I didnt notice/think of before or I am hoping to find something that we may have missed out on. More than anything, I really dont want Annasmom to think we've given up on helping her find Anna.

I'll wait until Doogie and Annasmom get back and they're ready to continue the search for Anna.

 

[mysteriew]

It never hurts to review info that was covered before. Each piece of info that is uncovered is like a part of a puzzle. And if not totally ruled out, it could be a piece that just doesn't fit yet. Fresh eyes and more info later could find a place where that piece fits.

But if you want to look up what may have been found earlier, there are tools to help you find it in the forum. At the top of the forum thread is a link for "search forum"- that will give you the thread the info is in. At the top of each thread is "search thread", that will give you the posts it is mentioned in. You can sometimes save yourself some steps by seeing what was found earlier.

 

[rideforfun]

My regroup idea is since we now have "contact" with LE can we ask about possible suspects in the burglaries? That takes us back to the gal whose father rented properties and she was at home when the person came to pay his "rent" which actually sounded like a front for robbing them. I believe that gal gave us a possible Anna sighting and we've already confirmed that the robberies were occuring in the area as she claimed. Many times the police have suspensions and suspects which can not be charged because of lack of evidence. Now is the time to talk to the police who investigated these robberies and see if we can generate any names of people who could be followed up on. I believe this is our next strongest area to cover because it is possible that this was an actual Anna sighting!

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Also, has anyone actually seen the death certificate for Mary, George B or George W in person?

Yes, the death certificates for all three were in the Box from Hell. Now that the "C/DNA" portion of the investigation is over, I will try and get the BFH from LE.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

I cannot access MySpace from my work computer - do we know that Bouslog actually was involved in illegal abortions or is this speculation?

 

[Gina_M]

I cannot access MySpace from my work computer - do we know that Bouslog actually was involved in illegal abortions or is this speculation?

I was going to ask about that too. I've read her entire MySpace page, and I can't find anything about illegal abortions. I think that was just speculation in this thread.