Thought and theories on Jeremy

[iamnotagolem]

In the blurb from JI's boss it was mentioned that JI takes the kids to school every day. Does this mean that DB stays home w/Lisa during this time? Do they ever all go? Does JI sometimes take Lisa? What about October 3rd?

I agree w/Whisperer, if PN or SB or JB or anyone had seen Lisa that day, the attorneys would do anything to get that info out. But the best they've come up with is trying to convince the public that a 4 y/o can tell time and saw Lisa.

I wonder how SB wasn't suspicious when she sat there for 4 hours with DB and she never went into check on Lisa.

Another question I had from JI's boss, is how did she hear Lisa on the phone when Lisa went down for a nap at 4:30?

 

[iamnotagolem]

OMG, I just had a horrible thought. JI works as an electrician, which means he sometimes has to cut out sheetrock, work in crawl spaces, basements, or work in a place of business or home where there are walls being put up.

Could he have taken a well wrapped Lisa and placed her into an area that would not be noticed inside a wall that night - where final construction would be happening within a few days?

There's also roll-off dumpsters at most construction sites - surely these have been looked through.

I don't see JI as this diabolical, but anything is possible.

I'd wondered that before, I wondered where he worked during the day on the 3rd. Since we still don't have a Lisa sighting that day, he could have done it during the day.

 

[melissasmom]

If any of these people saw BL they would be talking to the media. JT and BS would make sure. If they refused, money would be passed somehow, someway to get them to tell their story about Lisa being seen.

At this point, the dream team is doing everything they can to soften up that day and make sure somebody saw Lisa even up to putting a toddler up as seeing her. Nothing is working.

The same with the polys, if they passed a poly, the dream team would scream if from the rooftops. No such thing happened because LE has spoken and Joe T was lying on national tv. They never told Joe T that she passed any poly.

These attorneys sure have the money (thanks to KHS) to give them a poly...and they usually do in these type of cases. Then can go brag about how they passed a "private" poly. Nada.

BBM Why would they? LE has NEVER made a statement saying that Lisa was not seen on Oct. 3. The missing posters, NCMEC etc. all state she went missing the night of Oct. 3. So your theory is, even though LE cannot find any confirmation that Lisa was seen during the day of Oct. 3rd, they are keeping that information to themselves, and allowing misinformation to be on those flyers? They just said "Oh hey, we can't find an independent witness who saw Lisa earlier that day, but oh well, no big deal, lets just let it go." Not ask the public if anyone saw her, not put it out there that the date of Oct. 3rd may be wrong, they just leave it alone.
Just...no.
JMO

 

[Whisperer]

The more I learn about JI, the more worried I become.

 

[Whisperer]

BBM Why would they? LE has NEVER made a statement saying that Lisa was not seen on Oct. 3. The missing posters, NCMEC etc. all state she went missing the night of Oct. 3. So your theory is, even though LE cannot find any confirmation that Lisa was seen during the day of Oct. 3rd, they are keeping that information to themselves, and allowing misinformation to be on those flyers? They just said "Oh hey, we can't find an independent witness who saw Lisa earlier that day, but oh well, no big deal, lets just let it go." Not ask the public if anyone saw her, not put it out there that the date of Oct. 3rd may be wrong, they just leave it alone.
Just...no.
JMO

LE wouldn't, the dream team wouldn't miss the chance.

 

[melissasmom]

LE wouldn't, the dream team wouldn't miss the chance.

Sorry, don't understand what you are trying to say. I am not talking about lawyers, I am saying why has LAW ENFORCEMENT not said anything if there is no confirmation that Lisa was alive and well the day of the 3rd?

 

[iamnotagolem]

BBM Why would they? LE has NEVER made a statement saying that Lisa was not seen on Oct. 3. The missing posters, NCMEC etc. all state she went missing the night of Oct. 3. So your theory is, even though LE cannot find any confirmation that Lisa was seen during the day of Oct. 3rd, they are keeping that information to themselves, and allowing misinformation to be on those flyers? They just said "Oh hey, we can't find an independent witness who saw Lisa earlier that day, but oh well, no big deal, lets just let it go." Not ask the public if anyone saw her, not put it out there that the date of Oct. 3rd may be wrong, they just leave it alone.
Just...no.
JMO

They actually list October 4 at 4:00am as the last time Lisa was seen.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...seNum=1180911&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US

 

[melissasmom]

They actually list October 4 at 4:00am as the last time Lisa was seen.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...seNum=1180911&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US

I saw that quite some time ago, you would think they would update to match the missing posters. I didn't realize they hadn't. But I think you understand the point I am trying to make

 

[Quizzical]

They actually list October 4 at 4:00am as the last time Lisa was seen.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...seNum=1180911&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US

Is that a mistake or do they consider MT's sighting credible and believe it was Lisa???

ETA: Never mind. I think it's a mistake because they say she was last seen at home at that time.

 

[Whisperer]

It has always been my opinion that Jeremy is paranoid. Now we may be seeing more to it. We have just heard from RR and he has kge that it is Jeremy who runs that house, not DB. That is a stunner .. as we were tending to think she ran the show.

As we delve deeper with this thread, we can see that RR is correct. When we review JI and remarks he makes on tape, he tends to run towards the bizzare. It is he who runs the show. Who'd a thunk it? Downricht scary to me.

The very first words out of his mouth were very cryptic. When asked who would have done this to your daugher? He replied, "Somebody who cheats on her husband".

Very creepy..

Many of us assumed he meant SB when in reality he could have been referring to DB.

 

[hambirg]

Ok. . consider this hambirg brain vomit. . .just my train of thought today.

It's still very possible that both parents know what happened to BL. . .BUT. . .

If DB was responsible and JI was not. . .

I can't figure out JI's behavior.

I think he would be angry with DB.

I don't think DB is smart enough to fool JI. . .he's too non-trusting and smart.

DB seems to be lying and changing her story, but is it really about what happened to BL or is it just to hide the extent of her drinking/alcohol problem?

Did she never check on BL after she came home from Festival Foods because she never heard her cry and she was getting her drink on? Does she not want to admit that?

Are those the kinds of questions she failed on the LDT?

Now if JI is responsible and DB isn't. . .

I think he is smart enough to fool DB. She's seems trusting and gullible. He was apparently at work, why wouldn't she trust that?

JI told us everyone was cleared but DB. Why?

I think JI is the one really calling the shots. JMHO

JI is the one that pushes the "we" found her gone story.

JI is the one that has waffled on the "they came through the window"/"the window wasn't tampered with" story.

JI is the one that made sure to tell us the intruder took all three phones "so they couldn't call 911." But he had a phone in his pocket. . and he's apparently psychic and able to read the intruder's mind.

We also know nothing about JI's personal phone. Maybe that was the phone that had to be gotten rid of?

JI is the one that went stomping off to SB's. I always found that odd. Red herring?

JI's demeanor is weird. .and has changed. At the first press conference he was the mouthpiece, but ever sense the Festival Foods video came out he is a shrinking violet. He is more than happy to sit there and let DB ramble on. Maybe he knows she doesn't really know anything to tell. But if she stumbles along because she is trying to hide her drinking problems, then it just helps to take the focus off of him.

JI could very well be feeding DB's paranoia. That would make it easy for him to convince her that these inconsistencies they are telling are in her best interest.

There's more. . .but I think that's good for now. Thoughts?

 

[vlpate]

Is that a mistake or do they consider MT's sighting credible and believe it was Lisa???

ETA: Never mind. I think it's a mistake because they say she was last seen at home at that time.

This one says "at home" at 4 am. WTH

I thought I had posted an updated one a while back.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

 

[Whisperer]

JI is not just the shy, introvert that is being portrayed on TV. He is self-serving and he is out to protect himself FIRST. He doesn't take criticism lightly. He strikes me as passive aggressive and will get what he wants and needs anyway he can. I would be scared to be around him. I doubt he came home and simply said the lights are on, etc. When it comes down to it, there was probably a huge outburst/tantrum by him. It did not happen the was Irwin said it did. MO.

 

[SyraKelly]

Ok. . consider this hambirg brain vomit. . .just my train of thought today.

It's still very possible that both parents know what happened to BL. . .BUT. . .

If DB was responsible and JI was not. . .

I can't figure out JI's behavior.

I think he would be angry with DB.

I don't think DB is smart enough to fool JI. . .he's too non-trusting and smart.

DB seems to be lying and changing her story, but is it really about what happened to BL or is it just to hide the extent of her drinking/alcohol problem?

Did she never check on BL after she came home from Festival Foods because she never heard her cry and she was getting her drink on? Does she not want to admit that?

Are those the kinds of questions she failed on the LDT?

Now if JI is responsible and DB isn't. . .

I think he is smart enough to fool DB. She's seems trusting and gullible. He was apparently at work, why wouldn't she trust that?

JI told us everyone was cleared but DB. Why?

I think JI is ther one really calling the shots. JMHO

JI is the one that pushes the "we" found her gone story.

JI is the one that has waffled on the "they came through the window"/"the window wasn't tampered with" story.

JI is the one that made sure to tell us the intruder took all three phones "so they couldn't call 911." But he had a phone in his pocket. . and he's apparently psychic and able to read the intruder's mind.

We also know nothing about JI's personal phone. Maybe that was the phone that had to be gotten rid of?

JI is the one that went stomping off to SB's. I always found that odd. Red herring?

JI's demeanor is weird. .and has changed. At the first press conference he was the mouthpiece, but ever sense the Festival Foods video came out he is a shrinking violet. He is more than happy to sit there and let DB ramble on. Maybe he knows she doesn't really know anything to tell. But if she stumbles along because she is trying to hide her drinking problems, then it just helps to take the focus off of him.

JI could very well be feeding DB's paranoia. That would make it easy for him to convince her that these inconsistencies they are telling are in her best interest.

There's more. . .but I think that's good for now. Thoughts?

very good points-I think its so weird that whenever someone talks about the phones-its always Deb's phone-never JI's- it was BS that said they did a yr search on Deb's phone for MW's number-but nothing was ever said about JI's getting checked....and on the Phil show-Deb said-her phone was being redlined- but you can still receive texts and in coming calls--

 

[Whisperer]

Hambirg, this thread can open up some eyes. Thanks for your input. The fact that he is controlling this whole thing just blows my mind. DB is a co-dependent. He is not. He controls his environment. She beckens to him and keeps him calm. Is it out of fear? Don't know. She likes what she gets out of the relationship. From day one, I have pegged him as having a temper....but he is sneaky...very sneaky.

Those very first words ....brrrr!

 

[melissasmom]

JI is not just the shy, introvert that is being portrayed on TV. He is self-serving and he is out to protect himself FIRST. He doesn't take criticism lightly. He strikes me as passive aggressive and will get what he wants and needs anyway he can. I would be scared to be around him. I doubt he came home and simply said the lights are on, etc. When it comes down to it, there was probably a huge outburst/tantrum by him. It did not happen the was Irwin said it did. MO.

So I take it this means you have changed your opinion that DB controls JI? Or she controls him AND he is passive agressive? If DB controls him then is she the only one who should not be scared around him? He is a "no personality" but he has a temper? Is DB abused possibly, but she comes across as a loudmouth drama queen? Just clarifying.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Has Jeremy ever said what he did with Lisa while he was home for 2.5 hours? Did he read her a book? Did he play peek a boo? Did he change her diaper? Feed her? Make her a bottle?

 

[Whisperer]

Paranoids are the most dangerous type of people. I peg him as one...always have. I was hoping it was just a paranoid personality which is not dangerous but when he brought up those spiders on the screen, my hinky meter went off.

I won't go into it now till I get verified. I don't want to stir the pot.

 

[SyraKelly]

Has Jeremy ever said what he did with Lisa while he was home for 2.5 hours? Did he read her a book? Did he play peek a boo? Did he change her diaper? Feed her? Make her a bottle?

nothing to my knowledge have ever been said

 

[Whisperer]

So I take it this means you have changed your opinion that DB controls JI? Or she controls him AND he is passive agressive? If DB controls him then is she the only one who should not be scared around him? He is a "no personality" but he has a temper? Is DB abused possibly, but she comes across as a loudmouth drama queen? Just clarifying.

DB is a codependent.She is also histrionic. My thoughts haven't changed on that. I still see him as passive-aggressive. I thought DB controlled him and everything around him...and she does to a point. She keeps him calm by doing what he says and watching his boy and cleaning his house. She gets to have a man who owns a house and provides for her and her kids.

So they both get something out of this relationship. I thought DB ran the show..in a way, she does, she runs the house. He is running this media show. He puts her out there. She would be much more verbal if not contained.

This is a man who cut off his parents, sister and the mother of his boy. He shuts out anyone who criticizes anything he does. They do not exist in his mind unless he chooses to let them in...but cross him and you can forget about it.

I have to say he is behaving like a narcissist. I don't know much about him but his behavior is odd..always has been odd. Something is wrong and off about him.