Thread No. 21

[Bellgardin]

DeputyDawg, RaisinCharlie and Bellgardin, PLEASE check PMs. It's urgent. Thanks.

Done! Thank you VERY much!!!!!

 

[liveoutloud]

Thank you very much liveoutloud

You're welcome.
Hope that helps.

 

[raisincharlie]

You're welcome.
Hope that helps.

It definitely helps, as some would wish, a rumor confirmed. Appreciate it.

 

[liveoutloud]

It definitely helps, as some would wish, a rumor confirmed. Appreciate it.

Not a problem. Glad I could help with something!

 

[jake]

Hope you followed your own advice and confirmed that rumor before you posted it jake.

"A man with moral strength would at least check to see if he's got the rumor correct before passing it on."


Now back to my question jake - Dr. Godwin - $50,000 dollar question ?

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Some may actually see it, but don't want to admit it. That might be considered weak. May even hire or accept assistance from criminal defense profilers and consultants. Don't know why they wouldn't keep a criminal defense attorney around, as well.

What's a criminal defense profiler do? What's a consultant do? What's a criminal defense attorney do for someone not charged with anything?

Ask Jason, he might know, he might tell you, and he might not.


ETA - Dep check your pms please.

 

[The Saint]

Those 23 points are ridiculous. They were posted to convince the ignorant.

mentally and morally strong men do not kill their wives and babies or quote Rush Limbaugh.

jake, a jury won't find those 23 points (plus many more) ridiculous.
they'll use common sense and convict jason of the murder of his wife.

don't get all high and mighty on us.

jason wasn't so smart in committing this murder. he made mistakes.

we seldom agree on much, but i'm glad that you reiterated my limbaugh statement. although next time, see that i'm properly quoted.

 

[The Saint]

For my anger??

Can't afford it, Sweetmop. I need a counselor for my grief......

I need a counselor for my lust, for my gluttony, for my greed, for my sloth, for my envy, and even for my pride. Now you say I need a counselor for my anger?

Naw. I think I'll just live my life the best I can.

I was living on the Davidson today with a fly rod. Now that fly rod is a great counselor. Didn't see a nurse anywhere.

you just admitted to 6 Deadly Sins and you think your soul is OK?
better call on that pastor you know. he probably won't charge you and seeing that you know him, you can tell yourself you aren't weak for seeking his counsel.

 

[raisincharlie]

Wow - Dr. Godwin,......seriously Raisincharlie.......hopefully, this will get us somewhere. He is really good at what he does. Tell us more if you can.

icefun,

please excuse my failure to say hello and to respond. would you please check your pms.

Welcome to WS and again, please accept my apologies for not responding sooner.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

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Some may actually see it, but don't want to admit it. That might be considered weak. May even hire or accept assistance from criminal defense profilers and consultants. Don't know why they wouldn't keep a criminal defense attorney around, as well.

What's a criminal defense profiler do? What's a consultant do? What's a criminal defense attorney do for someone not charged with anything?

Ask Jason, he might know, he might tell you, and he might not.


ETA - Dep check your pms please.

Jake, don't know if the bolded area of text was intentional or unintentional, but you have misquoted. Your posting was done in error...as it appears I answered with that wording, and of course, I did not. Just wanted to bring that to your attention, as I'm sure you wouldn't want anyone under the wrong impression.

Thanks!

 

[caffeinatd]

Jake,

I must admit that your refusal to seriously answer raisincharlie's question about this whole Dr. Godwin thing has definitely piqued my curiosity. Is there a particular reason you are dancing around the issue?

Hi Jake,
I haven't been following too closely lately...other things to do, but I am very curious as to who this Dr. Godwin is, and what his role is. I don't recall that being the ME's name, and I get the idea from all the posts that you are the man with the info...can you please let me know what this is all about? Thanks

 

[jake]

Jake, don't know if the bolded area of text was intentional or unintentional, but you have misquoted. Your posting was done in error...as it appears I answered with that wording, and of course, I did not. Just wanted to bring that to your attention, as I'm sure you wouldn't want anyone under the wrong impression.

Thanks!

Exactly right. Raisin Charlie is the culprit.


Ask Jason, he might know, he might tell you, and he might not.

 

[The Saint]

Exactly right. Raisin Charlie is the culprit.


Ask Jason, he might know, he might tell you, and he might not.

or he might kill you.

 

[Jubal]

Godwin is a geographic profiler, MOO. What connection has he to this case?

 

[jake]

jake, a jury won't find those 23 points (plus many more) ridiculous.
they'll use common sense and convict jason of the murder of his wife.

don't get all high and mighty on us.

jason wasn't so smart in committing this murder. he made mistakes.

we seldom agree on much, but i'm glad that you reiterated my limbaugh statement. although next time, see that i'm properly quoted.

Correct your own quote.

Ain't gonna be no jury. Ain't gonna be no trial.

MassComm knew he was posting ridiculous items just to catch the dumb and dumber. He did.

 

[Jubal]

Correct your own quote.

Ain't gonna be no jury. Ain't gonna be no trial.

MassComm knew he was posting ridiculous items just to catch the dumb and dumber. He did.

Jake, that's a double negative, which equates with a positive, according to my English teacher.

Is this your way of letting us know that you know your boy has more on his mind than "moving on?"

 

[raisincharlie]

And location. He's a geographic profiler, MOO. What connection has he to this case?

See - jake won't touch that question, trying very hard to ignore it. My quess because jake is being blind - yeah Godwin is/was involved, not because LE asked him to be, nor because the Fishers asked him to be, that leaves the guy who has a "personal" attorney wanting him to be. Like every other hired gun, they are paid, surely they are going to come up with lots of theories that don't point to the hand that writes the check. JMO

 

[liveoutloud]

Correct your own quote.

Ain't gonna be no jury. Ain't gonna be no trial.

MassComm knew he was posting ridiculous items just to catch the dumb and dumber. He did.

Jake:

I don't recall MassComm's list verbatim but I do remember feeling it was pretty comprehensive. What, exactly, did you find so ridiculous? TIA

 

[liveoutloud]

See - jake won't touch that question, trying very hard to ignore it. My quess because jake is being blind - yeah Godwin is/was involved, not because LE asked him to be, nor because the Fishers asked him to be, that leaves the guy who has a "personal" attorney wanting him to be. Like every other hired gun, they are paid, surely they are going to come up with lots of theories that don't point to the hand that writes the check. JMO

Raisin:

As I indicated to you earlier they are in for a huge shock.
Don't you think they would have researched the man before hiring him?
Or, are the Youngs feeling ever more desperate with each passing day?

 

[jake]

Jake:

I don't recall MassComm's list verbatim but I do remember feeling it was pretty comprehensive. What, exactly, did you find so ridiculous? TIA

You don't want to see all this. I'll tell you anyway, in installments.



snipped from MassComm+++++++++

Hi guys. I haven't been here in awhile. Just wanted to touch base.

Remember my old list of circumstantial things that make you go hmmmm?

Are there any updates I need to make that have come out in that month or two?

Here is the old list of all the circumstantial stuff, and each by themselves does NOT point to him. But the totality of all these coincidences is overwhelming, IMO, and makes me go hmmmmm:

Sure, MassComm, I'll give it a shot. I'm sure some others on the board may be able to help some. Hope you'll include these updates next week when you post this for the umpteenth time. --Jake

1 - JY not helping LE at all. Quickly and thoroughly not helping. And continuing not to help, even through his lawyers who could look after his rights. He could sit with lawyers to protect his rights and still help LE take the focus off himself. It is very rare to not help at all.

LE from the beginning refusing to be respectful. Nothing but accusations, sneers, slurs, discourtesy to family and friends. LE needs training in how to treat innocent people.

2 - Daughter left unharmed (a stranger would do this?)

Only a psycho would harm a child. No psycho involved.

3 - The dog left unharmed (a stranger would do this?)

Why hurt the dog? Although maybe the dog was kicked.

4 - No signs forced entry according to LE

Door not locked. Killer has a key. What's so hard about this?

5 - No signs of rape or sexual assault as motive according to LE. No rape kit done though because clothing still intact and no signs of forcible rape.

Cops wanted a sex test, student decided not to do it. May be evidence of recent sex in that room.

6 - No signs of robbery according to LE. Purse left on counter.

Jewelry and money stolen by killer.

7 - Killed in her bedroom

So, if she's in the bedroom, killer should drag her to kitchen? Kill her where she is! And that's what they did.

See what I mean by ridiculous? There's more.....

 

[Jess]

Since the profiler has been "hired" by the person who has not been cleared as a suspect, -- if I am interpreting what I've been reading correctly, -- would all of his "findings" remain confidential with the "one who is not a suspect" - not to be shared with LE or the DA ??