Thread no. 22

[Samiya]

Hey Sami!:blowkiss: Great to see ya again! Just ready to leave & I saw your post so had to say HI!!
Can you tell us about the "Michelle's tree"?

Hey Jilly

I went to NY (I still have a slight accent, lol. I sound weird) to finalize studies in a new technique in my area of work.

Michelle's tree is just beautiful. The whole park has a serenity about it, even with noisy kids running everywhere. There's not much to tell really. I just wanted some quiet time discovering places and went to find the tree. Took me a while but I found it. I was so absorbed in my prayers that I didn't realize that I didn't take photos of the tree until the next day!

Oh well, better etched in my memory than in a camera.

Sami

 

[jilly]

Hey Jilly

I went to NY (I still have a slight accent, lol. I sound weird) to finalize studies in a new technique in my area of work.

Michelle's tree is just beautiful. The whole park has a serenity about it, even with noisy kids running everywhere. There's not much to tell really. I just wanted some quiet time discovering places and went to find the tree. Took me a while but I found it. I was so absorbed in my prayers that I didn't realize that I didn't take photos of the tree until the next day!

Oh well, better etched in my memory than in a camera.

Sami

Thanks Sami! Awesome!! I'm so happy for you that you were able to go there and see it! Must have been a very emotional time for you - and spiritual.

 

[jilly]

Thought I would post this link - which was found by Shuze - thanks Shuze !


The price of the Birchleaf house has been reduced by $15K in less than 1 month of listing - desperation ? Still too much compared to the original price paid by the seller ($379K)

http://www.listwise.com/abd-search_details.php?data_id=63033#

Thanks for passing this along RC. If we are to believe that the house is in foreclosure, then I guess it's the bank that just wants to get rid of it don't you think? Doesn't seem like it's been on the market that long (I can't remember).

 

[snowshuze]

Today marks nine months since the horrendous murder of Michelle Young and her unborn son.
Still praying for justice.

 

[BarnGoddess]

Today marks nine months since the horrendous murder of Michelle Young and her unborn son.
Still praying for justice.

Thanks for reminding us of the date. Hopefully, enough evidence will be gathered soon to indict JY.

 

[Taximom]

Today marks nine months since the horrendous murder of Michelle Young and her unborn son.
Still praying for justice.

Yep. How sad.

 

[jilly]

Thanks for the reminder. I can't believe he hasn't been charged. Pretty scary if a brutal murder like this can be so simple.

 

[concernedperson]

Yep. How sad.

Still, there is no resolve even though we are pretty sure of the perp. I can't even imagine being in her family's shoes. Michelle's precious baby is not with them the one person that belies all others. The one person that knows in her mind what happened to her mom and the one person who will have this tragedy close to her heart forever even in her dreams. I hope Cassidy can be with the family that has all the hopes and dreams for her and not clouded by otherwise suspicious folks.

 

[haypaula]

Thinking about it more...I guess there was a bit of a gap between these incidents and when she saw the therapist but I hope that she said alot to that therapist before he ended her life!

Seems like he might have been planning to kill her for quite awhile. Maybe the fact that she was seeing a therapist did escalate the murder.

He might have been trying to collect under the double indemnity clause of Michelle's policy, i.e., if her death was the result of an accident, JY will have collected $2 million, in lieu of $1 million. First there was an auto accident, and if the rumors are true, a boating incident.

I think pregnancy will be a major issue when this case is finally tried. It seems as though everything revolves around Michelle's pregnancies, i.e., marriage, auto accident, boating incident and death.

I am very curious as to what Michelle told the therapist. For her records to have been subpoenaed, there had to have been good reason as doctor/patient privilege is sacred. LE petitioned it due to the timing of Michelle's disclosure and the proximity of her murder.

IMO

 

[jilly]

He might have been trying to collect under the double indemnity clause of Michelle's policy, i.e., if her death was the result of an accident, JY will have collected $2 million, in lieu of $1 million. First there was an auto accident, and if the rumors are true, a boating incident. This is an interesting point. Never thought of this.

I think pregnancy will be a major issue when this case is finally tried. It seems as though everything revolves around Michelle's pregnancies, i.e., marriage, auto accident, boating incident and death.But I wonder if they can even bring in the boating incident and auto accident.If they were alone on the boat, then all they have is hearsay (right?) and as far as the car accident LE previously said there was nothing suspicious about that so all the pros can do is call the cop to say there was an accident and the defense can get that's all it was.

I am very curious as to what Michelle told the therapist. For her records to have been subpoenaed, there had to have been good reason as doctor/patient privilege is sacred. LE petitioned it due to the timing of Michelle's disclosure and the proximity of her murder. Yes and iirc, the Judge allowed it solely because it could help with the investigation. I'm curious too. I'm thinking she sensed he was having an affair.
IMO

I don't think she knew that he was having an affair with MM though. I think if she did, she would have confronted her immediately.

 

[Niner]

soooo... tapping my fingers... :waitasec: no arrest, eh?

and jilly - I agree with what you said here...

I don't think she knew that he was having an affair with MM though. I think if she did, she would have confronted her immediately.

 

[jilly]

soooo... tapping my fingers... :waitasec: no arrest, eh?

and jilly - I agree with what you said here...

I don't think she knew that he was having an affair with MM though. I think if she did, she would have confronted her immediately.

Are you caught up now Niner?

 

[haypaula]

I don't think she knew that he was having an affair with MM though. I think if she did, she would have confronted her immediately.

I think Michelle might have discussed something more with the therapist, other than her concerns that JY might be having an affair. LE already knew about MM at the time. Whatever this was, it appears LE drew a nexus between what Michelle revealed to the therapist and her murder because it occurred so closely to the time she was killed. Perhaps she discovered and/or came into contact with a dark side of JY.

I think, if anything, Michelle would have sought counsel if she'd learned about JY having an affair with MM in lieu of a stranger. It seems to me that having to deal with two betrayals (husband and best friend) is much more traumatic than if Michelle had learned JY was having an affair with someone she didn't know.

IMO

 

[nanandjim]

...I think pregnancy will be a major issue when this case is finally tried. It seems as though everything revolves around Michelle's pregnancies, i.e., marriage, auto accident, boating incident and death...

I wonder if this is what Michelle discussed with her therapist. Perhaps, Jason was throwing around little hints, such as, "You better be careful. You know how you seem to have accidents when you are pregnant." She may have started to put two and two together for some reason.

 

[caffeinatd]

I am so perplexed by these records. It seems that if they had incriminating info in them, then there should have been an arrest by now. I get increasingly worried that Jason will never be indicted. What else could they need on him if the therapy notes pointed towards him.

I really think he did it, but wonder why LE / DA doesn't act on it?

 

[haypaula]

I wonder if this is what Michelle discussed with her therapist. Perhaps, Jason was throwing around little hints, such as, "You better be careful. You know how you seem to have accidents when you are pregnant." She may have started to put two and two together for some reason.

Michelle might have been the type of woman like Laci Peterson, i.e., keeping marital problems and/or her husband's faults/infidelities/dark side to herself. Laci's friends said she was the only one among them who hadn't complained about her husband. I don't believe someone behaves wonderfully with their spouse, behind closed doors, then suddenly turns violent one day and murders them. From the pattern we continue to see, it appears many of these victims wish to portray their relationships as being idyllic, when in fact, they are likely far from that, based upon families of murdered victims being shocked, saying" "______could have never done this to ________."

When I'd read JY's dog was the ring bearer at his and Michelle's wedding, it never sat right with me. It seemed a mocking way to trivialize their relationship. Perhaps many will disagree, but that was a big red flag for me in how I believe JY perceived his marriage to Michelle.

This might mean something and it might be meaningless, but the therapist Michelle saw specializes in transgender issues. It brings to mind some of what we'd also heard about Scott Peterson, and even what Ann Bird wrote in her book about SP feeling slighted that he wasn't approached in a gay bar. I've wondered if perhaps Michelle had learned something about JY which she discussed with the therapist. Sexual addiction is one if the characteristics of sociopaths/psychopaths.

IMO

 

[panthera]

Peek-a boo, Here I am, trying to catch up and find out what has really happened in the last several months. Great to see everyone still passionate about finding justice for Michelle and her bebe. I have thought about this case every day, and just have to make time to come in for a little while every day.

Is it only a rumor that JR doesn't have the same firm representing him? And I never knew about a boat accident, but if she was preggers then too, Fran summed that up nicely!

Hi to all, and I will be for a while about this time to see y'all. Hopefully one day soon we will all do this little celebration dance

Hi scandi! I can't believe it's been 9 months now and still no arrest. I do realize it must be difficult for LE to get the evidence that would be needed to convict JY especially since it was his house and his fingerprints & DNA would be all over it. But you'd also think that someone else's would be there too if a stranger or hired killer had done it. I think that JY would've slipped up and been seen somewhere if he drove back home that night from where he was supposed to be.

 

[panthera]

I don't think she knew that he was having an affair with MM though. I think if she did, she would have confronted her immediately.

I agree with you. It would make finding out even worse if she knew it was her "friend".

 

[jilly]

Hi scandi! I think that JY would've slipped up and been seen somewhere if he drove back home that night from where he was supposed to be.

This case bothers me too. 9 months!! Surely somebody saw this guy in the middle of the night. People claimed to have seen Scott Peterson but then there was a lot of media attention to him and his vehicle.

The big problem here is the guy went into hiding afterwards. I guess LE can't put out a bulletin with his picture & vehicle asking for anyone who saw this vehicle please come forward? Is that because he's only a POI? I don't know. I just don't understand this.

What will it take to get an arrest? Any cold case I seem to hear of being solved a long time afterwards is because of new methods of solving cases like dna for example. Perhaps the law needs to be changed in that the POI has to talk to police otherwise be charged with obstruction of justice. I don't know.

I hardly think this guy is ever going to confess to someone unless he takes some truth serum imo.

If they can't find a way to charge this guy with murder then unfortunately this is a very scary prescedent for all future murderers.

 

[panthera]

This case bothers me too. 9 months!! Surely somebody saw this guy in the middle of the night. People claimed to have seen Scott Peterson but then there was a lot of media attention to him and his vehicle.

The big problem here is the guy went into hiding afterwards. I guess LE can't put out a bulletin with his picture & vehicle asking for anyone who saw this vehicle please come forward? Is that because he's only a POI? I don't know. I just don't understand this.

What will it take to get an arrest? Any cold case I seem to hear of being solved a long time afterwards is because of new methods of solving cases like dna for example. Perhaps the law needs to be changed in that the POI has to talk to police otherwise be charged with obstruction of justice. I don't know.

I hardly think this guy is ever going to confess to someone unless he takes some truth serum imo.

If they can't find a way to charge this guy with murder then unfortunately this is a very scary prescedent for all future murderers.

Initially I never would've imagined that here in August there still wouldn't be an arrest, especially since LE said from the get-go that it wasn't an "intruder" or random crime. So did JY hire a hit-man? They usually use a gun not a random bludgeoning weapon that they'd find in the house. The motive is all over JY and no one else, imo. If this becomes a cold case, there won't be an arrest because all the information and potential evidence is there. A receipt for a gas purchase in the middle of the night, for example, would be known by now and isn't going to show up a year from now.