Thread no. 22

[raisincharlie]

I agree RC, a cruel, sick individual could murder Michelle. Now, to me it is obvious who that individual was/is! Obviously, he also didn't think through the entire gravity of this crime nor the rippling effect it would have! I don't think he thought about that. Maybe he thought everything would be pinned on Meredith. Or maybe even the teen neighbor, I'm not sure.


His sociopathic narrcissist personality caused a feeling of superiority and a smugness beyond what's real! Fact is he had done so many unsavory and immoral acts againt Michelle and " behind her back " for such a long time, I believe he truely had a feeling of " above the law" when he committed the horrific murder!

I think he didn't think it all the way through because he never thought for a moment that he could not strangle Michelle. When she pushed him off, all heck broke loose because at that point he could not stop, he had to save himself. Thus leaving Cassidy with a bloody scene was his only option. He could not murder Cassidy - his own blood. He wasn't wanting to eliminate her, just Michelle.

 

[sweetmop]

I think he didn't think it all the way through because he never thought for a moment that he could not strangle Michelle. When she pushed him off, all heck broke loose because at that point he could not stop, he had to save himself. Thus leaving Cassidy with a bloody scene was his only option. He could not murder Cassidy - his own blood. He wasn't wanting to eliminate her, just Michelle.

I think you're right, RC. He felt the killing would be ever so easy.
How sick is that?

And poor little Cassidy. He may think the child will not remember the events of that night, but the brutality of his actions are buried inside of that little child. She will forever have difficulties in her life, because of the selfish act her father commited.

Maybe no physical harm came to her, but he did inflict harm upon her.

 

[citygirl]

I think he didn't think it all the way through because he never thought for a moment that he could not strangle Michelle. When she pushed him off, all heck broke loose because at that point he could not stop, he had to save himself. Thus leaving Cassidy with a bloody scene was his only option. He could not murder Cassidy - his own blood. He wasn't wanting to eliminate her, just Michelle.

Which he justified in his own mind . I would bet to this day he rationalizes that he did the right thing , BY HIM ! These kinds of people don't consider the consequences of their actions effecting anyone else . In his mind, I'm sure he thinks he loves his daughter . You are correct, his anger was directed at MY . As Sweetmop says, he never considered the ripple effect . I doubt that is his concern even now . The only thing worrying him now is " what if I don't get away with this and could that knock on the door be coming ".

JMO

 

[sweetmop]

Which he justified in his own mind . I would bet to this day he rationalizes that he did the right thing , BY HIM ! These kinds of people don't consider the consequences of their actions effecting anyone else . In his mind, I'm sure he thinks he loves his daughter . You are correct, his anger was directed at MY . As Sweetmop says, he never considered the ripple effect . I doubt that is his concern even now . The only thing worrying him now is " what if I don't get away with this and could that knock on the door be coming ".

JMO

Hi citygirl.
Yes, I'd hate to be in JY's shoes!
Can you imagine being him and trying to lie down at night and sleep? Ooooh, what must flash through his mind when he closes his eyes every night! Surely he has had several sleepless nights.

And, you're absolutely right, his main worry and major priority is Jason.


And Jason, no! you won't get away with it! yes! that knock on the door is coming one day soon!

 

[jilly]

I think he didn't think it all the way through because he never thought for a moment that he could not strangle Michelle. When she pushed him off, all heck broke loose because at that point he could not stop, he had to save himself. Thus leaving Cassidy with a bloody scene was his only option. He could not murder Cassidy - his own blood. He wasn't wanting to eliminate her, just Michelle.

You're right. jy "had to save himself". Geez, when you think about it - he must have been angry when he made his first attempt and then when he had the chance to stop he only got angrier! This is a guy with major issues which are simply not going to disappear just because he thinks he got rid of the problem in his life.

Do you think he did this simply because of Michelle wanting a divorce? It's not like he was Paul McCartney and would have had to part with millions. They had 2 mortgages on their house! I know Michelle was planning on cutting back on her hours but if they had decided to divorce, I'm sure she would have changed her mind. She was probably making more money than him!!

So what is this guy all about? Did Mama tell him he had to marry Michelle when she got pregnant and he resented having to do that? We've been told that Michelle and him argued all the time in front of others. Then - he gets her pregnant not once but twice after Cassidy. I don't get it.

 

[nanandjim]

nanandjim - hope you had a nice holiday !


As to the above - a killer covered in blood - if Cassidy saw this do you think an unknown killer would not immediately react and possibly kill the child as well ? No witness even if it was a child. I'd say the odds are better she saw a killer who knew her well.

She may have heard the struggle and screams and started to cry. Perhaps, Jason went to her room to sooth her. Cassidy could have seen him before he showered.

Daddy beeding is definitely incriminating for Jason. It puts him at the scene of the crime with blood all over him.

RC - Our holiday was uneventful. Too hectic with our move this year! Hope that your Thanksgiving was nice.

 

[nanandjim]

I think he didn't think it all the way through because he never thought for a moment that he could not strangle Michelle...

I've heard the experts (you know, "they") say that it is difficult to strangle a person. It takes several minutes, doesn't it? Just because the coward snuck up on her while she was sleeping doesn't mean that she didn't awaken quickly and fight back. Maybe, he had a large flashlight or something heavy with him. It is hard for me to believe that anyone could beat someone the way that he beat his pregnant wife, knocking out her teeth and more. How can a person do something like this?

He didn't ever want to be married to Michelle, IMO. Michelle made him feel inferior. She was everything that he pretended to be. He didn't want Michelle to go on with her life. She would be successful without him. He is a loser who won't amount to much. Of course, he'll do okay once he gets all of her money, to include the money for her death. Hope that he chokes on it. He is a scum. I think that I hate this guy worse than I hate Scott Peterson.

 

[jilly]

Daddy beeding is definitely incriminating for Jason. It puts him at the scene of the crime with blood all over him.

It sure does. No wonder LE hasn't looked past him. I'm another who didn't connect what Cassidy said. Anyways...I guess this eliminates the ski mask which some speculated he might have worn. The fact is....he wasn't all that prepared. Hopefully Michelle did get a chance to hit him or something.

I agree with RC that it was his sole intention to strangle her. If so, then he probably didn't take any weapon into the bedroom with him. He probably did reach for a flashlight in a night table which he conveniently left with.

 

[philamena]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=local&id=5751070

The above article from 11/8/07 states that all DNA test are complete. Didn't take a cop to guess at that one, lol.
My question is this--IF all DNA results are in and all other forensic test are complete....why hasn't Jason been arrested?
That truly boggles my mind.

 

[jilly]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=local&id=5751070

The above article from 11/8/07 states that all DNA test are complete. Didn't take a cop to guess at that one, lol.
My question is this--IF all DNA results are in and all other forensic test are complete....why hasn't Jason been arrested?
That truly boggles my mind.

Hi philamena! These are just the test results for the NTO. I can't remember if it was here or elsewhere, I seem to remember reading that 1/3 of the tests are not back. They're still waiting.

 

[philamena]

Thanks so much Jilly!
I appreciate the information. This case is so unsettling for me.

 

[Just the Fax]

Hi philamena! These are just the test results for the NTO. I can't remember if it was here or elsewhere, I seem to remember reading that 1/3 of the tests are not back. They're still waiting.

"Meanwhile, 101 items have been sent to the State SBI lab for DNA and other kinds of testing. The earliest was sent on November 7 of last year, the latest was sent just last week. More than a third of those results are in , yet no arrests have been made."

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-11-02-0027.html

 

[jilly]

"Meanwhile, 101 items have been sent to the State SBI lab for DNA and other kinds of testing. The earliest was sent on November 7 of last year, the latest was sent just last week. More than a third of those results are in , yet no arrests have been made."

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-11-02-0027.html

Thanks for correcting me, JtF.

 

[jilly]

This case is so unsettling for me.

For all of us philamena! I've never seen such a tight lipped investigation!

 

[icefun]

Thanks for correcting me, JtF.

If only a third of the results are in - that's exactly why no arrest has been made. THey know where JY is....they know what he's doing........they are not going to bring the actual charges until they hae all the ducks in a row.

It's really too bad, though....because everyday that it goes on......CY gets mor attached to her Aunt.....and we all know that she is going to get pulled from that situation as soon as there's an arrest.

JY - if you had any soul at all, you would get CY to regain her relationship with MY's mom.............so when she is placed in that home, after your arrest...she will feel safe.

 

[icefun]

If only a third of the results are in - that's exactly why no arrest has been made. THey know where JY is....they know what he's doing........they are not going to bring the actual charges until they hae all the ducks in a row.

It's really too bad, though....because everyday that it goes on......CY gets mor attached to her Aunt.....and we all know that she is going to get pulled from that situation as soon as there's an arrest.

JY - if you had any soul at all, you would get CY to regain her relationship with MY's mom.............so when she is placed in that home, after your arrest...she will feel safe.

on yeah.....that's right..I forgot....you're the one who slaughtered her mother to begin with.....guess you're not "so much" caring if she feels safe or not, are you?

 

[raisincharlie]

New warrant returned this afternoon:

http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/story/1578641/


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2104430/

 

[nanandjim]

New warrant returned this afternoon:

http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/story/1578641/


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2104430/

I wish that NC would publish this information in their paper. Keep it in the forefront of people's minds. Jason is the suspect in the murder of his wife and unborn child. The newspaper doesn't even have to name him as a suspect. Just publish the facts. There was a new warrant issued for their house. Then, rehash the story. Nothing wrong with that. Put phots of Michelle and HIM in the paper.

 

[raisincharlie]

I wish that NC would publish this information in their paper. Keep it in the forefront of people's minds. Jason is the suspect in the murder of his wife and unborn child. The newspaper doesn't even have to name him as a suspect. Just publish the facts. There was a new warrant issued for their house. Then, rehash the story. Nothing wrong with that. Put phots of Michelle and HIM in the paper.

I find this warrant interesting. First it seems Meredith entered the house by coming through the garage - I have to wonder her surprise to see Michelle's car in that garage when she had spoken to Jy that morning. I would think she might be surprised to see the car given the excuse Jy gave her to go there in the first place.

Second - about the deck - NC Wanted did show the perp entering the house from the back of the house - the door handle shown is consistent with a french door rather than a garage door handle. So assuming he entered through a french door - most likely he crossed the deck that went back to test NCSBI. Not knowing the location of the bedroom, is it possible the perp took his clothes and the murder weapon and dropped them on the deck so he wouldn't have to drag them through the house ? I think it is possible.

More to ponder - it does appear from this warrant that Jy did indeed speak wit Meredith on Friday morning - a little different from previous warrants which indicate he left a voice mail. So, must now study a bit.

 

[jilly]

New warrant returned this afternoon:

http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/story/1578641/


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2104430/

Thanks for the update RC. Have you got a handle on this new info?
I'm finding it hard to read between the lines. "killer and possible accomplices"? "Boards from the home's deck and a bucket of deck stain"?
Are they thinking this correlates with the red footpints in the bathroom?

How do they expect to collect and analyze "stains and/or marks" when the house has been cleaned up for selling. Maybe if it's deck stain there would still be some residue? Wonder why this is so important. The deck stain has come up somewhere else in their tests, I suppose.