Tim Bosma: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich chgd w/Murder; Christina Noudga, Accessory #3

[swedie]

DM has some things to look forward to in prison if/once he gets there. Of course unless he's allowed such privileges now. Anyone know or care to guess what luxury items DM has in his cell? Perhaps a lot has changed in the past three years since this article was written. MOO.

While corrections workers in some regions seem to make relatively few personal shopping trips on behalf of inmates, the practice is more frequent at others. Some institutions also take advantage of catalogue shopping and delivery services for inmates more than do others.

The documents also raise some questions about the types of goods inmates can purchase.

Within a single month, maximum-security inmates purchased at least 14 televisions and 11 video game consoles.

Then there’s the safety question. Aren’t shoelaces, power-bar cords and television plugs suicide and strangulation hazards? And personal grooming kits? Can some of these tools not be used as weapons?

http://o.canada.com/news/0915-inmate-shopping

 

[SnooperDuper]

DM has some things to look forward to in prison if/once he gets there. Of course unless he's allowed such privileges now. Anyone know or care to guess what luxury items DM has in his cell? Perhaps a lot has changed in the past three years since this article was written. MOO.

While corrections workers in some regions seem to make relatively few personal shopping trips on behalf of inmates, the practice is more frequent at others. Some institutions also take advantage of catalogue shopping and delivery services for inmates more than do others.

The documents also raise some questions about the types of goods inmates can purchase.

Within a single month, maximum-security inmates purchased at least 14 televisions and 11 video game consoles.

Then there’s the safety question. Aren’t shoelaces, power-bar cords and television plugs suicide and strangulation hazards? And personal grooming kits? Can some of these tools not be used as weapons?

http://o.canada.com/news/0915-inmate-shopping

DM is not an inmate, he's assumed to be innocent and so different rules apply. He may not be able to take advantage of the rulebook until he has been sentenced.

 

[Tamarind]

No definitely not, DM would not have access to scissors. Do you know if the barber makes rounds? From what I understand, inmates are notified when barbers plan visits to jails. Paying customers make appointments on those scheduled days and inmates are taken in shackles, chains and handcuffs to visit the barber in a room set up as a makeshift salon. AFAIK most prisons have on site salons.

Why play the race card? Any idea what percentage of native DM actually is Tamarind? Maybe it's just wishful thinking on DM's part; his claim to Indian heritage/background? Everyone needs a hero. ALL MOO.

I agree some inmates get their haircut prior to trial or during trial to try and appear respectable. I wonder if MR is native also based on his choice of haircut he sported during his trial.

I agree, definitely no scissors for people in jail.

Not too much point in getting a hair cut if you are isolated really IMO. Recluses also tend to leave tresses to grow. Maybe it's the fact that there is no-one to impress and sort of a going back to basics kind of approach. I can understand that.

I didn't play any race card Swedie, I'm not sure where you got that idea from. I don't think it matters how much native heritage anyone has and I am not getting the feeling that DM is claiming native heritage to have a hero. I think if he has native heritage it woud simply be a point that he was making. I have no idea if MR is native, but as I said, I don't think a hairstyle really identifies someones qualities or lack of. Again this is all my opinion.

 

[Tamarind]

The CBC article goes into a little more detail:



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/pretrial-hearings-now-underway-in-tim-bosma-case-1.3246040

Thank you cansleuther, so possibly a fashion statement or merely a way to add some interest to life while in jail. Doesn't appear to be sinister in any way . Thanks again for the link...

 

[Tamarind]

Well I guess it doesn't matter how old someone is when being locked up 23 hours a day alone in a cell. They need something to focus on. It must get monotonous repeatedly looking over discovery knowing there is nothing you can do to change the facts/evidence. IIRC DM offered to work in the kitchen at one time. Maybe he's now interested in becoming a hair stylist for other inmates. MOO.

Especially if the discovery doesn't seem to identify the facts he knows about. That would be quite frustrating. IMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

Cryptic? How? He said, "A number of other charges are pending as well." I'm sure many people are not surprised by this comment. We have speculated and discussed it many times here. IMO it's the inevitable when we know (according to MSM and LE), at least one accused has broken the law during the commissions of three murders. MOO.

Thank you. You're right. For some strange reason, I had wondered briefly if I should possibly consider the suggestions that he could be referring to new charges that we don't know about yet.

 

[Alethea Dice]

Or perhaps he just has a "normal" hairstyle?

"Normal" is certainly a relative term, but generally people who are perceived as "normal" aren't also described as being "off" or "strange".



http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2014/05/there-was-something-off-about-alleged-murderer-mark-smich.html

I noticed MS is still just staring straight ahead. Apparently he doesn't want to actually face anyone for some reason. I wonder if that's "normal" for most accused in these types of situations.

Smich largely stared straight ahead throughout the proceedings, while Millard occasionally glanced around the courtroom, looking at investigators, reporters and members of Bosma's family who attended.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/pretrial-hearings-now-underway-in-tim-bosma-case-1.3246040

 

[Alethea Dice]

I agree, definitely no scissors for people in jail.

Not too much point in getting a hair cut if you are isolated really IMO. Recluses also tend to leave tresses to grow. Maybe it's the fact that there is no-one to impress and sort of a going back to basics kind of approach. I can understand that.

I didn't play any race card Swedie, I'm not sure where you got that idea from. I don't think it matters how much native heritage anyone has and I am not getting the feeling that DM is claiming native heritage to have a hero. I think if he has native heritage it woud simply be a point that he was making. I have no idea if MR is native, but as I said, I don't think a hairstyle really identifies someones qualities or lack of. Again this is all my opinion.

FWIW, it was actually Carl Millard who claimed the native heritage, not DM. I don't know why DM wouldn't believe his own grandfather.

Millard's grandfather, Carl, was a Canadian aviation legend. He started his own charter airline in 1954, Rob Seaman wrote in Wings Magazine in 2005. Prior to that, Carl had been a pilot for Trans-Canada Air Lines, which became Air Canada.

Millard also told Seaman that he was "a direct descendant of Chief Joseph Brant," the Mohawk leader who aided the British forces during the American Revolution in the mid-1700s.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/who-is-dellen-millard-charged-in-tim-bosma-killing-2-others-1.2605821

https://www.wingsmagazine.com/rebel-with-a-cause-544

 

[MsSherlock]

Especially if the discovery doesn't seem to identify the facts he knows about. That would be quite frustrating. IMO

Precisely Tamarind- I was thinking about that exact same thing. There is a thought that DM liked to be in control of things-liked to set things up perfectly, just like we saw in his engagement pic's. I can well imagine the frustration DM may be feeling if he had set things up a certain way for these crimes and LE have left them out in the disclosure- or worse yet, not even noticed them or considered them important? Hard to say what that stuff could be, but IMHO, that could explain why he was so upset about things not being included in the disclosure. MOO

IMHO, it's just as confusing as DM & MS not being charged with auto theft, running a chop shop etc. As far as his braid? Maybe he's weaving a story for us to follow? Like he's a master of disguise? MS certainly does seem to be making the "I'm normal" statement. IMHO, I'm happy believing DM is really a Jedi apprentice and that DP isn't MIA, but simply defending some rebel Wookie. MOO

 

[swedie]

In this case, DM has a hair CUT with a braid like a rattail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattail_(haircut) remaining behind his right ear. Not a hair STYLE. A hair CUT.

And you're right, being native (or more likely, not) has nothing to do with it.

I thought another Mohawk or perhaps a mullet would have been the the haircut of choice. I guess there's potential and time before TB's trial to change up his style again. MOO.

 

[Tamarind]

Precisely Tamarind- I was thinking about that exact same thing. There is a thought that DM liked to be in control of things-liked to set things up perfectly, just like we saw in his engagement pic's. I can well imagine the frustration DM may be feeling if he had set things up a certain way for these crimes and LE have left them out in the disclosure- or worse yet, not even noticed them or considered them important? Hard to say what that stuff could be, but IMHO, that could explain why he was so upset about things not being included in the disclosure. MOO

I thought the engagement pics were a well presented, carefully thought out, set up for pictures to be taken. I don't see the same refinement in a set up that has a truck on his mothers driveway and remains at his own farm. Maybe it's this obscure unlikelihood that has me questioning the presentation of this circumstantial set up, as opposed to the photography set up.

IMHO, it's just as confusing as DM & MS not being charged with auto theft, running a chop shop etc. As far as his braid? Maybe he's weaving a story for us to follow? Like he's a master of disguise? MS certainly does seem to be making the "I'm normal" statement. IMHO, I'm happy believing DM is really a Jedi apprentice and that DP isn't MIA, but simply defending some rebel Wookie. MOO

I think it's unlikely that a chop shop was in operation based on the lack of cars/products. I didn't ever see any proof of that claim. I don't see a weaving of a story either to be honest, if he is a master of disguise how did he end up in jail?

No-one looked more 'normal' than Paul Bernardo, and how wrong that assumption of normal was. I am not concerned about DP or who else he may defend, Wookies or Ewoks all need help from time to time

I would not discriminate against a braid if I were a juror. It would be the look in someones eye or the lack of eye contact that would interest me more. JMO

 

[SnooperDuper]

Precisely Tamarind- I was thinking about that exact same thing. There is a thought that DM liked to be in control of things-liked to set things up perfectly, just like we saw in his engagement pic's. I can well imagine the frustration DM may be feeling if he had set things up a certain way for these crimes and LE have left them out in the disclosure- or worse yet, not even noticed them or considered them important? Hard to say what that stuff could be, but IMHO, that could explain why he was so upset about things not being included in the disclosure. MOO

IMHO, it's just as confusing as DM & MS not being charged with auto theft, running a chop shop etc. As far as his braid? Maybe he's weaving a story for us to follow? Like he's a master of disguise? MS certainly does seem to be making the "I'm normal" statement. IMHO, I'm happy believing DM is really a Jedi apprentice and that DP isn't MIA, but simply defending some rebel Wookie. MOO

DM does seem rather childlike with all of his hairstyles and fondness for the movies. He also seems to have a lot of confidence in himself and his reputation despite all that has come out.

You have to wonder if indeed he tried to create a false trail that was never picked up on because of all the overwhelming evidence against him. He seems astonished that things are not working out for him, for some reason.

At the beginning of this case, people used to shout, "he's innocent! THERE'S NO BODY!" like it was a perfect crime TV show. Unfortunately for DM, that doesn't hold back LE in real life.

More and more, I see him as a giant-sized child with poorly thought-through plans. Through tough thorough thought though, one can see that he is guilty.

 

[SnooperDuper]

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[SnooperDuper]

Just going back to the profiler article:

"It's not uncommon for allegedly smart people to be caught by police for crimes like this. They think they are smart enough to commit a crime but don't have the skills to avoid detection. There is often overconfidence there. And there can be risk gratification involved as well."

Whoever murdered Tim Bosma, burned his body and left the remains in the area clearly was trying to cover his tracks, but the attempt was poorly conceived.

"It was a plan, but not a great plan," said Van Allen. "It displays overconfidence and inexperience. This is someone who thinks a half-hearted effort is enough — someone not accounting for the lengths to which police will go to solve this crime."

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2...abusive-exploitive-and-a-risk-taker-profiler/

Again, a childlike, movie-fantasy plan, not robust enough to hide the crime from police.

 

[Tamarind]

Just going back to the profiler article:



http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2...abusive-exploitive-and-a-risk-taker-profiler/

Again, a childlike, movie-fantasy plan, not robust enough to hide the crime from police.

I agree the set up was a very fantastical plan, whether it was pre-planned or opportunistic,I simply don't believe it's exactly the way it's being portrayed. I almost think it was not meant to be hidden from the police- just my opinion.

 

[redheart]

I agree the set up was a very fantastical plan, whether it was pre-planned or opportunistic,I simply don't believe it's exactly the way it's being portrayed. I almost think it was not meant to be hidden from the police- just my opinion.

So exactly what evidence leads you to think that DM is being set up?
All of the evidence that we know about points directly to him (and MS). Do you know of other evidence that we don't? I'm sure there will be plenty more evidence to come out in trial, but it's pretty baffling how anyone can look at the evidence we do know about and come up with "DM is being set up".

 

[Tamarind]

Just going back to the profiler article:



http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2...abusive-exploitive-and-a-risk-taker-profiler/

Again, a childlike, movie-fantasy plan, not robust enough to hide the crime from police.

I am rather loathed to accept Mr Van Allens opinion. Presumably this is the same guy, I wonder why the Spec thought to use him to bolster their article:

http://donaldbest.ca/civil-lawsuit-...egally-sold-to-major-international-law-firms/

Maybe they didn't realise he was not a good source. JMO

 

[redheart]

I am rather loathed to accept Mr Van Allens opinion. Presumably this is the same guy, I wonder why the Spec thought to use him to bolster their article:

http://donaldbest.ca/civil-lawsuit-...egally-sold-to-major-international-law-firms/

Maybe they didn't realise he was not a good source. JMO

But, but, but....these are just allegations against Jim Van Allen. I think you should be defending him over and over again! What happened to presumed innocence??

:facepalm:

 

[Variant]

But, but, but....these are just allegations against Jim Van Allen. I think you should be defending him over and over again! What happened to presumed innocence??

I agree; a rush to judgement. An internet background check on Donald Best and his cohorts' shenanigans (and tie-up of courts) in Canada and Barbados might lead to questioning of his allegations.

 

[Tamarind]

But, but, but....these are just allegations against Jim Van Allen. I think you should be defending him over and over again! What happened to presumed innocence??

:facepalm:

I think the signed and witnessed affidavit clinched it for me. Regardless of whether both plaintiff and defendant are guilty, we know van Allen was a police officer as is stipulated in the Spec article. Sheds a lot of light on the workings of justice in my opinion, whichever way you look at it. Not saying all are the same but certainly not as above reproach as many may think. JMO IMO