Tim Bosma: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich chgd w/Murder; Christina Noudga, Accessory

[LayzeeDayzee]

If you bring up the ad in kijiji and view posters other ads, theres older vehicles for sale, and in one of the shots is a jeep that looks like one of the ones in the airplane hangar in AM's fb pics, there are sea doos which we know DM liked to buy for his friends, parts for a jeep which is likely the same model as the jeeps in the hangar, and the contact person is Shane, in earlier postings there's an SS from Brantford that went to Baja with AM and DM. The pics of the cars look like they're in an airplane hangar.

It sure does look like some of the vehicles are in a hangar. Particular this SeaDoo, Pic#5 -- http://www.kijiji.ca/v-personal-watercraft/brantford/1997-seadoo-gti/580034687

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

If you bring up the ad in kijiji and view posters other ads, theres older vehicles for sale, and in one of the shots is a jeep that looks like one of the ones in the airplane hangar in AM's fb pics, there are sea doos which we know DM liked to buy for his friends, parts for a jeep which is likely the same model as the jeeps in the hangar, and the contact person is Shane, in earlier postings there's an SS from Brantford that went to Baja with AM and DM. The pics of the cars look like they're in an airplane hangar.

Also......if you do a google search on the phone # for "Shane" listed in the Kijiji Ads, it comes up with Ads placed (with that same phone #) on a site called gtaaquaria.com --- when shows a username of "amdninjaboy". If you do a Google IMAGE search on that name, it brings up 2 pictures posted long ago (back shortly after TB went missing) on WEBSLEUTHS......one of L at the Farm, and another of the Incinerator found on the property....and lots of pics link to old posts here, of LE doing ground searches. Hmmmmm.

ETA: heck, in the Google Search of that phone #, it comes up to that # associated with SS and Millard Air....guess it doesn't get any clearer than that, it is SS. Maybe DM is needing money so is having SS sell off some assets?

Looks like SS had a Piper Navajo plane for sale in Nov 2013 (same # as in Kijiji ads): http://www.ww.w.aerocontroller.com/...twin-aircraft-for-sale/7230-1975-piper-navajo

 

[swedie]

If you bring up the ad in kijiji and view posters other ads, theres older vehicles for sale, and in one of the shots is a jeep that looks like one of the ones in the airplane hangar in AM's fb pics, there are sea doos which we know DM liked to buy for his friends, parts for a jeep which is likely the same model as the jeeps in the hangar, and the contact person is Shane, in earlier postings there's an SS from Brantford that went to Baja with AM and DM. The pics of the cars look like they're in an airplane hangar.

Sheesh everything but the kitchen sink for sale there. If these are things once owned by DM's father or grandfather, seems they're pretty desperate to make a few bucks. JMO but wouldn't it make more sense to donate something like that scooter to a nursing home for some poor soul who cannot afford one? Same with the piano. No deals there. Kinda makes my stomach queasy seeing them listed on Kijiji kwim. MOO.

 

[swedie]

Would forensics be there if she was only helping DM escape? If she was helping to actually cover up the murder (s), would that bring a greater charge? And I'm wondering if she was even more involved?
I believe it is more difficult to get a search warrant in Canada vs the US. LE had something pretty reliable to search the house. I hope she folds in jail and starts singing.

I've wondered about this whole May 9th, escape thing, CN's charges and I wonder if she was at his house and LE showed up there to question him but she lied to LE saying he wasn't there, then possibly they cased his place and seen him leave sometime later or she tried to sneak him out of his house and have him hide out somewhere. Or was he maybe hiding out at her home and police showed up their but she denied know him or where he was? What could the other scenarios be? Any ideas anyone? The reports seem to be saying CN knew right after the fact DM had murdered Tim. Not like she's just been sitting on this info and just didn't come forward.

Police allege Noudga knew Millard had killed Bosma and assisted in his “escape” last May

Sheesh I wish these writers would proof read their stories before sending them to press. The wording is just atrocious, good grief :facepalm: Mine isn't the greatest either at times, but I'm not getting paid for mine. :giggle:

After Millard was arrested in Bosma’s murder, investigators said Babcock had posted online advertising escort services.

http://metronews.ca/news/canada/100...efore-she-was-reported-missing-police-allege/

 

[newone]

I've wondered about this whole May 9th, escape thing, CN's charges and I wonder if she was at his house and LE showed up there to question him but she lied to LE saying he wasn't there, then possibly they cased his place and seen him leave sometime later or she tried to sneak him out of his house and have him hide out somewhere. Or was he maybe hiding out at her home and police showed up their but she denied know him or where he was? What could the other scenarios be? Any ideas anyone? The reports seem to be saying CN knew right after the fact DM had murdered Tim. Not like she's just been sitting on this info and just didn't come forward.

Police allege Noudga knew Millard had killed Bosma and assisted in his “escape” last May

Sheesh I wish these writers would proof read their stories before sending them to press. The wording is just atrocious, good grief :facepalm: Mine isn't the greatest either at times, but I'm not getting paid for mine. :giggle:

After Millard was arrested in Bosma’s murder, investigators said Babcock had posted online advertising escort services.

http://metronews.ca/news/canada/100...efore-she-was-reported-missing-police-allege/

bbm wonder if CN was posting online as LB just as a smoke screen

from your link it states that the media had asked her (CN) for an interview after DM's arrest and she never did get back to them....

 

[redheart]

Originally Posted by swedie View Post
I've wondered about this whole May 9th, escape thing, CN's charges and I wonder if she was at his house and LE showed up there to question him but she lied to LE saying he wasn't there, then possibly they cased his place and seen him leave sometime later or she tried to sneak him out of his house and have him hide out somewhere. Or was he maybe hiding out at her home and police showed up their but she denied know him or where he was? What could the other scenarios be? Any ideas anyone? The reports seem to be saying CN knew right after the fact DM had murdered Tim. Not like she's just been sitting on this info and just didn't come forward.

Police allege Noudga knew Millard had killed Bosma and assisted in his “escape” last May

Sheesh I wish these writers would proof read their stories before sending them to press. The wording is just atrocious, good grief Mine isn't the greatest either at times, but I'm not getting paid for mine.

After Millard was arrested in Bosma’s murder, investigators said Babcock had posted online advertising escort services.

http://metronews.ca/news/canada/1001...police-allege/

bbm wonder if CN was posting online as LB just as a smoke screen

from your link it states that the media had asked her (CN) for an interview after DM's arrest and she never did get back to them....

BBM: I think that's what swedie is referring to with the bad wording in the report. The investigators are releasing this information about Laura after DM's arrest, but they don't mean Laura posted online after the arrest - just that the information came out then.

 

[Sphinx]

Would forensics be there if she was only helping DM escape? If she was helping to actually cover up the murder (s), would that bring a greater charge? And I'm wondering if she was even more involved?
I believe it is more difficult to get a search warrant in Canada vs the US. LE had something pretty reliable to search the house. I hope she folds in jail and starts singing.

Yes, search warrants in Canada can be more difficult to obtain, and execute. Remember the P. Bernardo case -- LE had a warrant to search his house, but could not take apart things like the light fixture in the ceiling, where of course he had hidden the horrendous tape. It was not that LE was incompetent, the judge restricted them too much IMO.

LE apparently carried many evidence bags full of items from CN's home. Perhaps they removed almost everything except furniture from her bedroom, and they may have taken many other items that belonged to the parents . It sounds like they had enough evidence for a serious warrant.

I suspect CN may have been at the scene of Tim Bosma's murder, or close by, and that she may have actually driven DM away in another direction from DM's accomplice, who may have driven the body to the farm. I suspect that DM and CN wanted an alibi asap after the murder.

 

[flipflop]

If you bring up the ad in kijiji and view posters other ads, theres older vehicles for sale, and in one of the shots is a jeep that looks like one of the ones in the airplane hangar in AM's fb pics, there are sea doos which we know DM liked to buy for his friends, parts for a jeep which is likely the same model as the jeeps in the hangar, and the contact person is Shane, in earlier postings there's an SS from Brantford that went to Baja with AM and DM. The pics of the cars look like they're in an airplane hangar.

Good find, I also found this ad last fall. It is now expired but the info is still there. It is the Yellow Jeep that they raced in the Baja500

http://www.racingjunk.com/Dirt-Off-Road-Trucks/182022477/2004-Jeep-TJ-Heavily-Modified.html

and the green jeep

http://www.racingjunk.com/Jeep/182022499/2007-Jeep-Wrangler.html

I also found this interesting, they bought it used last year for 11K. I guess the chop shop was going to be huge JMO

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-business-industrial/brantford/jlg-sp-15-stock-picker/580029189

 

[Sphinx]

Would forensics be there if she was only helping DM escape? If she was helping to actually cover up the murder (s), would that bring a greater charge? And I'm wondering if she was even more involved?
I believe it is more difficult to get a search warrant in Canada vs the US. LE had something pretty reliable to search the house. I hope she folds in jail and starts singing.

Yes, search warrants in Canada can be more difficult to obtain, and execute. Remember the P. Bernardo case -- LE had a warrant to search his house, but could not take apart things like the light fixture in the ceiling, where of course he had hidden the horrendous tape. It was not that LE was incompetent, the judge restricted them too much IMO.

LE apparently carried many evidence bags full of items from CN's home. Perhaps they removed almost everything except furniture from her bedroom, and they may have taken many other items that belonged to the parents . It sounds like they had enough evidence for a serious warrant. I hope they could search possible hiding places well.

I suspect CN was perhaps at the scene of Tim Bosma's murder, or close by, and that she may have driven DM away in another direction from DM's accomplice, who could have driven the body to the farm. I suspect that DM and CN wanted an alibi, and distance from the actual murder crime scene - the truck -- asap after the murder.

It is also possible that she helped DM after the murder of LB. This girl could be in very deep, in not one, but two murders, and she may have had knowledge of the faked suicide murder of WM. She may claim she acted as she did, because she was so afraid of DM, but if that is the case, why did she not go to LE after DM was arrested and locked up ? Why did she ( or more likely her parents ) hire a criminal lawyer for her months ago ? That begs the question -- how much did they know, and are they guilty of hiding evidence as well ? The net is wide in this case. If people know things, IMO they should be talking to LE, not trying to hide in the shadows. I would not be surprised to see her parents brought up on charges after LE goes through the house evidence.

If CN is not talking to LE, and giving them the information they need, she soon will be IMO. News reports said she was shackled in chains around her ankles in court, and that she looked very nervous -- wringing her hands, and biting her lip. The parents may not have been there for support because they are very afraid. <modsnip>

 

[Sailor Bug]

Now THAT would be interesting. To find out that LE found a bullet in the incinerator or buried somewhere on the property that matched the bullet that killed WM. Because if they've got the gun, confiscated after WM's death, that found bullet couldn't possibly be what killed TB.

Hmmm....

MOO

I'm thinking you are right Kamille.
The bullet(s) would not incinerate and would cause a bit of a short out for the incinerator...metal will definately cause a short out. Unless DM found and picked up the bullets by hand after the incineration...he may not have even seen it or known that the metal would not incinerate....leaving that find for LE

 

[Sailor Bug]

where of course he had hidden the horrendous tape. It was not that LE was incompetent, the judge restricted them too much IMO.

LE apparently carried many evidence bags full of items from CN's home. Perhaps they removed almost everything except furniture from her bedroom, and they may have taken many other items that belonged to the parents . It sounds like they had enough evidence for a serious warrant.

I suspect CN may have been at the scene of Tim Bosma's murder, or close by, and that she may have actually driven DM away in another direction from DM's accomplice, who may have driven the body to the farm. I suspect that DM and CN wanted an alibi asap after the murder.

I believe a search warrant has to specifically state what LE will be looking for or at..when LE secure's the permission of a court.

 

[MsSherlock]

I'm thinking you are right Kamille.
The bullet(s) would not incinerate and would cause a bit of a short out for the incinerator...metal will definately cause a short out. Unless DM found and picked up the bullets by hand after the incineration...he may not have even seen it or known that the metal would not incinerate....leaving that find for LE

Sailor, my original thought was bullets in the incinerator, but now I'm thinking a bit different, especially if everyone was killed with the same gun. There would be no way to tell who the bullets belongs to- unless- they found one in the incinerator:TB, one in the barn-perhaps lodged in the bottom of that board they carried out with LB's DNA all over it: and one sealed in a zip lock back at the Coroners office. Also, if LB ended up in the incinerator, there's still a possibility that they have dental records, especially if it was burn on burn. JMHO

 

[SnooperDuper]

I'm thinking you are right Kamille.
The bullet(s) would not incinerate and would cause a bit of a short out for the incinerator...metal will definately cause a short out. Unless DM found and picked up the bullets by hand after the incineration...he may not have even seen it or known that the metal would not incinerate....leaving that find for LE

There would be more metal than that, e.g., the metal in TB's steel toed boots and the rivets, button and zipper from his jeans....

 

[jash]

I wonder if DM gave the reporter CN's number. Maybe he was hoping she'd profess his innocence too.

After the Star’s Robert Cribb sat down for two extensive jailhouse interviews with Millard last December, the Star reached Noudga by phone.
“Maybe we can talk another time, I’m kind of busy this month,” she said. “I will be out of town. But I don’t really want to talk about it. I might call you back.”
She never did.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...e_she_was_reported_missing_police_allege.html

 

[MsSherlock]

Yes, search warrants in Canada can be more difficult to obtain, and execute. Remember the P. Bernardo case -- LE had a warrant to search his house, but could not take apart things like the light fixture in the ceiling, where of course he had hidden the horrendous tape. It was not that LE was incompetent, the judge restricted them too much IMO.

LE apparently carried many evidence bags full of items from CN's home. Perhaps they removed almost everything except furniture from her bedroom, and they may have taken many other items that belonged to the parents . It sounds like they had enough evidence for a serious warrant. I hope they could search possible hiding places well.

I suspect CN was perhaps at the scene of Tim Bosma's murder, or close by, and that she may have driven DM away in another direction from DM's accomplice, who could have driven the body to the farm. I suspect that DM and CN wanted an alibi, and distance from the actual murder crime scene - the truck -- asap after the murder.

It is also possible that she helped DM after the murder of LB. This girl could be in very deep, in not one, but two murders, and she may have had knowledge of the faked suicide murder of WM. She may claim she acted as she did, because she was so afraid of DM, but if that is the case, why did she not go to LE after DM was arrested and locked up ? Why did she ( or more likely her parents ) hire a criminal lawyer for her months ago ? That begs the question -- how much did they know, and are they guilty of hiding evidence as well ? The net is wide in this case. If people know things, IMO they should be talking to LE, not trying to hide in the shadows. I would not be surprised to see her parents brought up on charges after LE goes through the house evidence.

If CN is not talking to LE, and giving them the information they need, she soon will be IMO. News reports said she was shackled in chains around her ankles in court, and that she looked very nervous -- wringing her hands, and biting her lip. The parents may not have been there for support because they are very afraid. If they hired a lawyer for her months ago, then they knew a lot. I would say their business will go downhill significantly after the arrest. Who wants to go to a chiropracter involved in anyway with these crimes ? Not me, and not others I know, that is for sure.

Maybe Archangel is around and can give us the details surrounding search warrants and exactly what would be required to take so many items from a house. It does sound a bit harsh considering her charges. Forensics? Is there a possibility that they're looking for CN's DNA? Perhaps they're not able to get it even with her in jail?

"Currently, Canadian law allows for DNA samples to be taken from individuals who are convicted of a range of offences, including murder, sexual assault and, in some cases, dangerous driving or drug trafficking. "
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...na-from-suspects-upon-arrest/article14652881/

We simply add more innocent peoples lives to the list of those that DM is destroying or has destroyed- as he sits down at Barton St replaying movies in his head. JMHO

DM's words to the Star after being in jail for TB's murder.

On his guilt:

"&#8220;No,&#8221; he says as he makes direct eye contact. &#8220;I didn&#8217;t do it &#8230; They might as well accuse me of having been to the moon. There&#8217;s nothing real about it.&#8221;


On being in the truck the night TB went missing:

"I'm hesitant to say anything," Millard says. "This is an adversarial system."

On WM:

&#8220;He was probably the person I loved most in the world, even more than myself,&#8221; he says. &#8220;We would have deep discussions. He needed me a lot for the business.&#8221;

On WM's death:

&#8220;I took it all pretty hard. It was a responsibility I didn&#8217;t want at that time. I was angry at (Wayne) for the things I had to do because he wasn&#8217;t there to do them.&#8221;

On life in jail:

&#8220;I spend time outside the cell in my head,&#8221; he says. &#8220;I re-enact movies in my head. It was Jurassic Park last night.&#8221;

On his mother:

&#8220;You&#8217;re an extension of another life,&#8221; he says, speaking of his mother, Madeleine Burns, long divorced from Wayne. She is a trained interior designer who has assumed control of the business and properties. &#8220;So I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s been as hard for her as it is for me.&#8221;

On his girlfriend CN:

Millard can&#8217;t speak to the woman he had been dating for two years because she is on the list of people the court says he may not contact.

But he hopes to one day. &#8220;We were in love.&#8221;

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...didnt_kill_tim_bosma_exclusive_interview.html

I'm curious why some psychopaths like RW fess up and why others like DM continue to draw the whole thing out.

 

[matou]

If you bring up the ad in kijiji and view posters other ads, theres older vehicles for sale, and in one of the shots is a jeep that looks like one of the ones in the airplane hangar in AM's fb pics, there are sea doos which we know DM liked to buy for his friends, parts for a jeep which is likely the same model as the jeeps in the hangar, and the contact person is Shane, in earlier postings there's an SS from Brantford that went to Baja with AM and DM. The pics of the cars look like they're in an airplane hangar.

In this ad, the "6.1 leter Hemi Jeep Wrangler 2" lift Custom roof and hood" is beside the car being sold. This green jeep is featured in the hangar, the crew built it and I think it was used for fun with the gang. The green jeep is featured in 'Car Projects' in an associate's fb. I wonder if there will be other arrests for other criminal activities? I think the seadoo and some of the equipment being sold on kijiji actually belongs to DM and not his friend. JMO

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/cambridge/1976-cadillac-eldorado-convertible/582094023

 

[flipflop]

Maybe Archangel is around and can give us the details surrounding search warrants and exactly what would be required to take so many items from a house. It does sound a bit harsh considering her charges. Forensics? Is there a possibility that they're looking for CN's DNA? Perhaps they're not able to get it even with her in jail?

"Currently, Canadian law allows for DNA samples to be taken from individuals who are convicted of a range of offences, including murder, sexual assault and, in some cases, dangerous driving or drug trafficking. "
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...na-from-suspects-upon-arrest/article14652881/

We simply add more innocent peoples lives to the list of those that DM is destroying or has destroyed- as he sits down at Barton St replaying movies in his head. JMHO

DM's words to the Star after being in jail for TB's murder.

On his guilt:

"“No,” he says as he makes direct eye contact. “I didn’t do it … They might as well accuse me of having been to the moon. There’s nothing real about it.”


On being in the truck the night TB went missing:

"I'm hesitant to say anything," Millard says. "This is an adversarial system."

On WM:

“He was probably the person I loved most in the world, even more than myself,” he says. “We would have deep discussions. He needed me a lot for the business.”

On WM's death:

“I took it all pretty hard. It was a responsibility I didn’t want at that time. I was angry at (Wayne) for the things I had to do because he wasn’t there to do them.”

On life in jail:

“I spend time outside the cell in my head,” he says. “I re-enact movies in my head. It was Jurassic Park last night.”

On his mother:

“You’re an extension of another life,” he says, speaking of his mother, Madeleine Burns, long divorced from Wayne. She is a trained interior designer who has assumed control of the business and properties. “So I’d say it’s been as hard for her as it is for me.”

On his girlfriend CN:

Millard can’t speak to the woman he had been dating for two years because she is on the list of people the court says he may not contact.

But he hopes to one day. “We were in love.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...didnt_kill_tim_bosma_exclusive_interview.html

I'm curious why some psychopaths like RW fess up and why others like DM continue to draw the whole thing out.

I have thought about this last statement as well.

RW was an adult with huge responsibilities. He worked his way up the ranks. He thought he was above the law and thought he hid his crimes well. Once he was caught, he knew he was done!!!

DM, I think he was a spoiled brat who always had someone bail him out of his problems, never having to suffer the consequences. Therefore, he has no idea how to fess up and come clean as he has never done anything wrong in his eyes. This is all JMO

 

[MsSherlock]

Would forensics be there if she was only helping DM escape? If she was helping to actually cover up the murder (s), would that bring a greater charge? And I'm wondering if she was even more involved?
I believe it is more difficult to get a search warrant in Canada vs the US. LE had something pretty reliable to search the house. I hope she folds in jail and starts singing.

There is a possibility that CN's just as sick as the other 2- she could actually be the mastermind for all we know right now-I personally don't believe that, but there's always the possibility. One way or another we have 3 very sick people and it's a safer place with them behind bars.

If TM is any example, feminine emotion under stress may be a big plus for LE. Perhaps Jim Smyth was on hand to do the initial interrogation when they arrested CN.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMn3f2phw0"]Terri-Lynne McClintic Police Confession (AM980.ca) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[SnooperDuper]

Since the murders it seems DM has liquidated $7M worth of assets

 

[matou]

Maybe Archangel is around and can give us the details surrounding search warrants and exactly what would be required to take so many items from a house. It does sound a bit harsh considering her charges. Forensics? Is there a possibility that they're looking for CN's DNA? Perhaps they're not able to get it even with her in jail?

"Currently, Canadian law allows for DNA samples to be taken from individuals who are convicted of a range of offences, including murder, sexual assault and, in some cases, dangerous driving or drug trafficking. "
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...na-from-suspects-upon-arrest/article14652881/

We simply add more innocent peoples lives to the list of those that DM is destroying or has destroyed- as he sits down at Barton St replaying movies in his head. JMHO

DM's words to the Star after being in jail for TB's murder.

On his guilt:

"“No,” he says as he makes direct eye contact. “I didn’t do it … They might as well accuse me of having been to the moon. There’s nothing real about it.”


On being in the truck the night TB went missing:

"I'm hesitant to say anything," Millard says. "This is an adversarial system."

On WM:

“He was probably the person I loved most in the world, even more than myself,” he says. “We would have deep discussions. He needed me a lot for the business.”

On WM's death:

“I took it all pretty hard. It was a responsibility I didn’t want at that time. I was angry at (Wayne) for the things I had to do because he wasn’t there to do them.”

On life in jail:

“I spend time outside the cell in my head,” he says. “I re-enact movies in my head. It was Jurassic Park last night.”

On his mother:

“You’re an extension of another life,” he says, speaking of his mother, Madeleine Burns, long divorced from Wayne. She is a trained interior designer who has assumed control of the business and properties. “So I’d say it’s been as hard for her as it is for me.”

On his girlfriend CN:

Millard can’t speak to the woman he had been dating for two years because she is on the list of people the court says he may not contact.

But he hopes to one day. “We were in love.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...didnt_kill_tim_bosma_exclusive_interview.html

I'm curious why some psychopaths like RW fess up and why others like DM continue to draw the whole thing out.

I wish we knew the exact wording of his questions for DM. He may be holes in the questioning that can allow him to answer in the way he did. I still love his response "..even more than myself" r.e. how he loved his father. JMO