Tim Miller funded Misty's trip to Orlando & also reveals shocking info about Ron.

[Muffet]

Is it ever wrong to assist LE find a missing child with their approval?

LE uses citizens on the QT every day to get around the limitations imposed on official investigatory practices. Heck, they even use criminals as informers, even when they can't admit it or ever testify.

Since for all we know, LE welcomed Tim's efforts in this case, I see no justification for disparaging him with claims that he overstepped and interfered where he shouldn't have. :sheesh:

 

[Muffet]

I agree. Those donations are intended to fund physical searches - not to play mind games with suspects.

I am really surprised that TM is putting his professional reputation and credibility in jeopardy by becoming so unprofessionally involved in this way.

I want my donations to go toward helping to find missing children, in this case Haleigh. I don't care how they do it or who they have to play mind games on to find her - just please find her. rayer:

 

[Malesherbes]

I want my donations to go toward helping to find missing children, in this case Haleigh. I don't care how they do it or who they have to play mind games on to find her - just please find her. rayer:

Yeah, I dont get this Tim Miller hatred everyone lost respect for him thing, even though there are lots of people who still respect him, and will support TES- I refuse to be blind and refuse to process the FACT that Teresa Neves called on Tim Miller to come in and help-

I mean can anyone answer to me why its ok for Ronald to use deception to try to get the truth out of Misty,by marrrying her, keeping his enemies close but Tim Miller does something based in deception after witnessing Ronald put an assult riffle in his mouth, and he had genuine concerns for Mistys life and all his work toward helping people is thrown out and he is bad, but Ron is not?

 

[curvecuti]

Yeah, I dont get this Tim Miller hatred everyone lost respect for him thing, even though there are lots of people who still respect him, and will support TES- I refuse to be blind and refuse to process the FACT that Teresa Neves called on Tim Miller to come in and help-

I mean can anyone answer to me why its ok for Ronald to use deception to try to get the truth out of Misty,by marrrying her, keeping his enemies close but Tim Miller does something based in deception after witnessing Ronald put an assult riffle in his mouth, and he had genuine concerns for Mistys life and all his work toward helping people is thrown out and he is bad, but Ron is not?

Because Ron is Haleigh's father and TM is not.

I don't think TM had any concern for Misty's life, if I had witnessed that scene (which I doubt he did) MY concern would have been for Jr. not Misty.

 

[Malesherbes]

Because Ron is Haleigh's father and TM is not.

I don't think TM had any concern for Misty's life, if I had witnessed that scene (which I doubt he did) MY concern would have been for Jr. not Misty.

Well, Ron being Haleighs dad, why did he tip off Misty to Donna Brooks, I thought he wanted to find Haleigh no matter what?

 

[curvecuti]

Well, Ron being Haleighs dad, why did he tip off Misty to Donna Brooks, I thought he wanted to find Haleigh no matter what?

I haven't seen the text message he sent so I do not know if that is what happened.

 

[Malesherbes]

I haven't seen the text message he sent so I do not know if that is what happened.

Well, he sent something that pizzed off Misty, since she went banging on Donna Brocks hotel door- I just cant believe that, he makes statements saying he divorced Misty, cops can have at her, hes not protecting her, yet he tips her off to a person sent in to try to find his daughter-

Pool HaLeigh-

jmo

 

[debs]

It comes to mind that no one complained when TN was on NG talking about how a generous friend sent Misty Ronald and Jr on an all expenses paid trip to Universal. When Misty took off with "a friend" it was portrayed as Misty just needing some time to relax, and a wealthy friend was helping her do that.

Now, after Ronald got HIS vacation, Tim Miller is shown to be the person who funded his vacation, and TM is the one in the wrong. I don't get the logic.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I was not sure where to post this article regarding Tim. Mod's please move as needed.

As soon as I read the article it reminded me of the same "Words" Tim said about Caylee. However, he did not give up the search and the donations came in, in the thousands. Nearly $100,000. What I don't understand is why there is not enough people out there that care that much about Haleigh? The media was like "White on Rice" in the Caylee case. Why are they treating the Haleigh case different? Haleigh deserves to be found dead or alive. Alive would be better, but if by chance she has pasted she deserves to be found as well. It breaks my heart that Tim has to move on, I do understand though. But it still makes me sad. Please Lord light Haleigh's way home.

Searcher Tim Miller convinced Haleigh dead"Snip" By Kristin Chambers
Published: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:26 AM EDT
The founder of TES involved in the quest to find Haleigh Cummings says he believes the child is dead and authorities will be lucky to find her body.

Tim Miller, who has assisted law enforcement in the search for Haleigh since February, says the group focuses on finding children who still have a chance to be alive. That no longer includes the missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings from Satsuma.
"In no way possible do I believe Haleigh is alive," Tim Miller said. "Haleigh's going to be just as deceased tomorrow as she is today, or next week as she was six months ago, bottom line. And I hope I'm wrong about that. But let's try to save the ones that just disappeared or that we have leads on, with people that are cooperating, rather than fighting with these families."

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/arti...ews/news01.txt

 

[kamky]

I was not sure where to post this article regarding Tim. Mod's please move as needed.

As soon as I read the article it reminded me of the same "Words" Tim said about Caylee. However, he did not give up the search and the donations came in, in the thousands. Nearly $100,000. What I don't understand is why there is not enough people out there that care that much about Haleigh? The media was like "White on Rice" in the Caylee case. Why are they treating the Haleigh case different? Haleigh deserves to be found dead or alive. Alive would be better, but if by chance she has pasted she deserves to be found as well. It breaks my heart that Tim has to move on, I do understand though. But it still makes me sad. Please Lord light Haleigh's way home.

I think Tim is pizzed off that his attempt to get close to Misty and get the truth out of her failed and has decided to cut his losses in this case. He originally promised TES would come back and search in 4-6 weeks (from mid-August) when the foliage died down. Well, the foliage has died down and TES has not returned. Tim has moved on to other cases and forgotten Haleigh, IMO, because he is mad at her family. Sad, but I think true.

 

[debs]

I don't believe TM has forgotten Haleigh. Sounds like he can't keep fighting people who want the rest of the world to forget her so the heat is off them.

 

[texasmommy39]

I don't believe TM has forgotten Haleigh. Sounds like he can't keep fighting people who want the rest of the world to forget her so the heat is off them.

Is that why Ronald appeared on Maury? TM will have his day to set things straight and keeping the focus on others instead of HaLeigh is a wasted effort till she is found. I keep thinking that is what found these other children of late... they never lost focus of the child till found then on to a suspect. That is the main difference in HaLeighs case; she was long forgotten the moment that the focus was distracted from HaLeigh to her non-custodial parent and her claim of being a victim ( while her baby is missing and can not be found and no evidence of foul play in the MH) and directing the medias attention from day one.

 

[debs]

Is that why he appeared on Maury?

Tim appeared on Maury?

Oh! You mean Ronald........did he mention Haleigh? I don't think he did. Just watched it again, and definitely he never mentioned Haleigh by name. Not one time. Neither did his mom.

 

[Malesherbes]

Tim appeared on Maury?

Oh! You mean Ronald........did he mention Haleigh? I don't think he did. Just watched it again, and definitely he never mentioned Haleigh by name. Not one time. Neither did his mom.

And thats pretty weird- Also they played up the Turners Syndrome pretty hard, not sure why considering Ronald has said numerous times in the past she was not that bad- Their appearance on Maury was shameful- funny how they didn't mention that he married that girlfriend and cops are pleading with the public to come forward with any info on Misty that night-since she is the key to finding her- It was disgraceful to HaLeigh-

jmo

 

[texasmommy39]

Tim appeared on Maury?

Oh! You mean Ronald........did he mention Haleigh? I don't think he did. Just watched it again, and definitely he never mentioned Haleigh by name. Not one time. Neither did his mom.

Debs we know why he was there. Maury asked the questions and Ronald and his mother answered those questions and then Ron was given an oppertunity to say something and he CHOSE to tell HaLeigh he loved her. I find nothing wrong under the circumstances that he did not say HaLeighs name because the whole topic and interview was about HaLeigh.

 

[texasmommy39]

And thats pretty weird- Also they played up the Turners Syndrome pretty hard, not sure why considering Ronald has said numerous times in the past she was not that bad- Their appearance on Maury was shameful- funny how they didn't mention that he married that girlfriend and cops are pleading with the public to come forward with any info on Misty that night-since she is the key to finding her- It was disgraceful to HaLeigh-

jmo

I think he was asked about HaLeigh's medical conditions so Ron explained them all for Maury and the audience that might not know what Turners Syndrome is and its possible medical requirements..

 

[Malesherbes]

Debs we know why he was there. Maury asked the questions and Ronald and his mother answered those questions and then Ron was given an oppertunity to say something and he CHOSE to tell HaLeigh he loved her. I find nothing wrong under the circumstances that he did not say HaLeighs name because the whole topic and interview was about HaLeigh.

Well, all the other families that day mentioned to utter they missing ones name-

I am about sick of Rons pleading about how she is not a possession or a pair of shoes- I mean he wants her to be at the door in the morning when he wakes up, thats really touching, but he left the last home she knew,

It was a disgrace how they never once mentioned Misty and how cops say she knows more and they didnt even plead to the public about Mistys whereabouts-

It was a really sad display, the Cummings are ignoring that Misty is the key-

Haleigh deserved so much more-

jmo

 

[debs]

Debs we know why he was there. Maury asked the questions and Ronald and his mother answered those questions and then Ron was given an oppertunity to say something and he CHOSE to tell HaLeigh he loved her. I find nothing wrong under the circumstances that he did not say HaLeighs name because the whole topic and interview was about HaLeigh.

One of the first lessons people are given after their child disappears is to personalize them. Call them by name. Often. Make those pleas personal so that the person who has your child understands "this is a person, not an object" and will see the child as such.

But since this isn't about that, I remain convinced that TM has not forgotten Haleigh. Even in this, he uses her name.

 

[texasmommy39]

One of the first lessons people are given after their child disappears is to personalize them. Call them by name. Often. Make those pleas personal so that the person who has your child understands "this is a person, not an object" and will see the child as such.

But since this isn't about that, I remain convinced that TM has not forgotten Haleigh. Even in this, he uses her name.

I understand your point and will agree also that TM would not of forgoten HaLeigh I just feel (MPO)that his focus was not on finding HaLeigh in all the the undercover BS.

 

[Baxter]

I understand your point and will agree also that TM would not of forgoten HaLeigh I just feel (MPO)that his focus was not on finding HaLeigh in all the the undercover BS.

What do you think the focus of using Donna was? Wasn't it to get information from Misty to find Haleigh? Or do you just think Tim was nosey?